LeBron has now scored more points than anyone in NBA history

[ty 4191]

I saw your last post and I made the decision not to respond as I think it's comical and cynical

You mean factual?

You're seriously disputing the fact that LeBron's playoff resume isn't nearly as impressive as KAJ's? And that he had 5+ extra games every single year due to expansion, to rack up these totals everyone is drooling here over?

[Freighttrain]

I saw your last post and I made the decision not to respond as I think it's comical and cynical

You mean factual?

You're seriously disputing the fact that LeBron's playoff resume isn't nearly as impressive as KAJ's? And that he had 5+ extra games every single year due to expansion, to rack up these totals everyone is drooling here over?

Kareem averaged 14 points in his 19th season whilst LeBron is averaging 29. If you think he wouldn't surpass him without those 5 extra games you're delusional. How about you make a thread when LeBron has, hypothetically according to the expansion-less league, surpassed him! How about that? Anyway, I don't even know why am I entertaining this non-debate.

[nikster]

Not as unbreakable as his turnover record though.

A Russell Westbrook fan/apologist criticizing another ball dominant player for being turnover prone?

The jokes write themselves.

This dude doesn't care at all about consistency, as long as its Lebron slander

[TheNG]

No one realy cares about accumulated stats in playoffs because it doesn't mean much.
Lebron is durable, but KAJ and Karl Malone were more durable pretty easily.
Congrats to Lebron for this record anyway.
I think there is a big chance that 20 years from now he will still be considered a top-10 all time great and that's a very big accomplishment for him considering all the disappointing runs he had with his superteams all these years. I really hope for him they are able to reach the playoff this year.

[ty 4191]

Kareem averaged 14 points in his 19th season whilst LeBron is averaging 29. If you think he wouldn't surpass him without those 5 extra games you're delusional. How about you make a thread when LeBron has, hypothetically according to the expansion-less league, surpassed him! How about that? Anyway, I don't even know why am I entertaining this non-debate.

5+ extra games every year, for 20 years.

If Kareem played on LeBron's teams 2006-2021 he'd be playing 350 career games in the playoffs. And, that's not counting the fact that players couldn't be drafted out of high school until the Haywood vs. The NBA Supreme Court Decision (1971).

LeBron James, as we all know, played ages 19-22, right out of high school. During those years, he racked up 8,439 points, 2,102 rebounds, and 2,033 assists.

Kareem came up during his age 22 season after playing 3 years in college. Give him his ages 19-21 seasons, very conservatively averaging 25 ppg, 12 rpg, and 3 apg. (He averaged 28.8/14.5/4.1 his Rookie Year in an MVP caliber season).

--Bring him out of high school, and give him ages 19-21 and he'd have ~44,000 points, ~20,000 rebounds, and ~6,400 assists.

And that's just in the regular season. Not to mention playoffs totals and records.

See the point yet?

Also, I love how you totally dodged the fact that LeBron played in a joke conference for 15 years, and padded his totals against poor first round teams for 66 of his 266 playoff games.

[nikster]

I saw your last post and I made the decision not to respond as I think it's comical and cynical

You mean factual?

You're seriously disputing the fact that LeBron's playoff resume isn't nearly as impressive as KAJ's? And that he had 5+ extra games every single year due to expansion, to rack up these totals everyone is drooling here over?

Nah comical and cynical sums it up pretty well

[trueballer7]

I saw your last post and I made the decision not to respond as I think it's comical and cynical

You mean factual?

You're seriously disputing the fact that LeBron's playoff resume isn't nearly as impressive as KAJ's? And that he had 5+ extra games every single year due to expansion, to rack up these totals everyone is drooling here over?

Kareem averaged 14 points in his 19th season whilst LeBron is averaging 29. If you think he wouldn't surpass him without those 5 extra games you're delusional. How about you make a thread when LeBron has, hypothetically according to the expansion-less league, surpassed him! How about that? Anyway, I don't even know why am I entertaining this non-debate.

Where do you go off comparing numbers that add up to results with losers? Lebrun got stomped by the Suns in the first round of the playoffs age 36, barely averaged 23 ppg. Kareem, age 38 averaged 26 vs the Celtics in the Finals and won. Oh, the delusion is strong indeed

[DroseReturnChi]

I'm a certified LeBron hater but imagine talking empty stats this season for a career achievement. Pick your moments it just makes you look dumb as ****.

lebrons last few seasons is definitely empty stats if russ entire career is empty stat disgusting double standard here.
lebron has never even touched close to 29point avg since coming to miami which is his prime.
nobody really thinks him as a scorer more of a point forward that avges 25ppg. to score suddenly more than your entire career is proving he cares more about stats than winning. he is tail end of his career he would rather go 0-82 if it means to surpass kareem.

if lebron actually thought he is number 1 scorer now he will stop stat padding but as i said no one cares so he will grind like curry to surpass rs total points then take it easy. just look at curry too he sold his soul he looks like a bum after setting the record these stat padders probably cant even sleep properly. this is why i never respect lebron curry compared to mj, magic who genuinely loved the game and didnt pay attention to setting world records at the expense of teams loss.

[ty 4191]

Where do you go off comparing numbers that add up to results with losers? Lebrun got stomped by the Suns in the first round of the playoffs age 36, barely averaged 23 ppg. Kareem, age 38 averaged 26 vs the Celtics in the Finals and won. Oh, the delusion is strong indeed

Call it "LeBron Derangement Syndrome".

[70sFan]

Amazing accomplishment from James, congratulations!

So many salty LeBron haters can't appreciate greatness in front of their eyes...

[ty 4191]

Amazing accomplishment from James, congratulations!

So many salty LeBron haters can't appreciate greatness in front of their eyes...

He's not the GOAT.

That's the only point I'm making, comparing him to KAJ, with full historical context.

[70sFan]

I saw your last post and I made the decision not to respond as I think it's comical and cynical

You mean factual?

You're seriously disputing the fact that LeBron's playoff resume isn't nearly as impressive as KAJ's? And that he had 5+ extra games every single year due to expansion, to rack up these totals everyone is drooling here over?

Kareem averaged 14 points in his 19th season whilst LeBron is averaging 29. If you think he wouldn't surpass him without those 5 extra games you're delusional. How about you make a thread when LeBron has, hypothetically according to the expansion-less league, surpassed him! How about that? Anyway, I don't even know why am I entertaining this non-debate.

Kareem was 3 years older than James in his 19th season, it's not fair comparison. At James age Kareem won FMVP leading his team to the title.

[70sFan]

Amazing accomplishment from James, congratulations!

So many salty LeBron haters can't appreciate greatness in front of their eyes...

He's not the GOAT.

That's the only point I'm making, comparing him to KAJ, with full historical context.

I also have Kareem higher than him, but we don't need to make this discussions every single time. We can appreciate what LeBron accomplished, which is nothing short of incredible. Even if you decide that Kareem did something more impressive, that still leaves us with James being second only to Kareem and nobody else is even close.

[maverick_41]

And Finals’ games?

Where does he rank?

But seriously, I am talking about NOW. Who cares if he is breaking scoring records when his team may not even make the playoffs.

Is that not the definition of empty stats??

He’s 19 years in. At this point the career stats are the only thing left to accomplish.

He's no Tom Brady

He’s also accomplished less than Vlad Putin. Shame.

[ty 4191]

Kareem was 3 years older than James in his 19th season, it's not fair comparison. At James age Kareem won FMVP leading his team to the title.

Not to mention LeBron spends 1.5 million dollars a year on his body, alone, whereas Kareem played in an era where sports medicine was- relatively- quite primitive, and nobody had an entourage.

https://medium.com/in-fitness-and-in-health/lebron-james-spends-1-5-million-on-his-body-every-year-1fdf83cbd8ba

Is it really any surprise that LeBron has been better than KAJ in his old age?

From 1970-1989, 13 players played 10,000 minutes after turning 32.

From 2004-2022, 34 players have played 10,000 minutes after turning 32.

[DroseReturnChi]

Unfortunately winning games is still considered the standard.

Then it’s a good thing for LeBron that he’s won more playoff games than anyone else in NBA history.

And Finals’ games?

Where does he rank?

But seriously, I am talking about NOW. Who cares if he is breaking scoring records when his team may not even make the playoffs.

Is that not the definition of empty stats??

this season is a wasted season for lebron. he still needs to surpass kareem and mj and the only way to do it without winning a ring is get that number 1 all time list and claim he is the goat. all time points is a very presitigious criteria everyone considers heavily in goat list. but lebron again exploited by cheating 2-3 yrs younger than the competition and padding ridiculous points aritifically when assists help his team more.

i can already predict lebron he will now stat pad rebounds and assists once he surpasses points.
but all of this is so awkward compared to westbrook who does it so effortlessly he is a born triple double machine. lakers pretty much lost when two stat padders are competing against each other but its more hilarious lebron is marginalizing westbrook by cutting his usage russ actually became a bum.

[Freighttrain]

Kareem averaged 14 points in his 19th season whilst LeBron is averaging 29. If you think he wouldn't surpass him without those 5 extra games you're delusional. How about you make a thread when LeBron has, hypothetically according to the expansion-less league, surpassed him! How about that? Anyway, I don't even know why am I entertaining this non-debate.

5+ extra games every year, for 20 years.

If Kareem played on LeBron's teams 2006-2021 he'd be playing 350 career games in the playoffs. And, that's not counting the fact that players couldn't be drafted out of high school until the Haywood vs. The NBA Supreme Court Decision (1971).

LeBron James, as we all know, played ages 19-22, right out of high school. During those years, he racked up 8,439 points, 2,102 rebounds, and 2,033 assists.

Kareem came up during his age 22 season after playing 3 years in college. Give him his ages 19-21 seasons, very conservatively averaging 25 ppg, 12 rpg, and 3 apg. (He averaged 28.8/14.5/4.1 his Rookie Year in an MVP caliber season).

--Bring him out of high school, and give him ages 19-21 and he'd have ~44,000 points, ~20,000 rebounds, and ~6,400 assists.

And that's just in the regular season. Not to mention playoffs totals and records.

See the point yet?

Also, I love how you totally dodged the fact that LeBron played in a joke conference for 15 years, and padded his totals against poor first round teams for 66 of his 266 playoff games.

So you're just adding points to Kareem whilst also not considering the mileage that would cause on his body from playing 3 extra years in the NBA compared to college which would affect the latter years of his prime as well? You can never say how much Kareem would have averaged if he played in the NBA sooner.

Also, lmao to the people trying to make this a Kareem vs LeBron debate. This is a LeBron appreciation thread but obviously, it's going to end up being a bash thread. What else is new on the RealGM general board.

[Loneshot]

I'm really going to miss LeBron when he retires. No one has ever lived up to the hype like this.

2002 baby.

That's what I'm talking about. For anyone old enough to remember, the media had LeBron as the heir apparent before he had finished high school, it was crazy. From game one in the NBA it was evident he was something different.

[trueballer7]

Where do you go off comparing numbers that add up to results with losers? Lebrun got stomped by the Suns in the first round of the playoffs age 36, barely averaged 23 ppg. Kareem, age 38 averaged 26 vs the Celtics in the Finals and won. Oh, the delusion is strong indeed

Call it "LeBron Derangement Syndrome".

I dont know man. This type of immunity where the criteria by which all others are judged and measured get turned upside down for a specific individual, doesnt happen by accident. Complete control of the narrative, so the predetermined result remains intact. He's mostly played losing bb for the past 4 years and you've got people comparing him to Kareem based on how many points he averages whilst getting stomped by scrubs. Weird stuff. Maybe Bron Bron is engaged in freemasonry

[ty 4191]

Also, lmao to the people trying to make this a Kareem vs LeBron debate. This is a LeBron appreciation thread but obviously, it's going to end up being a bash thread. What else is new on the RealGM general board.

As to KAJ coming out of high school, he gets 3 more physical prime years. That would help him a lot more than losing rate and volume his last 3 years, which weren't very good anyway, especially by his standards. It's a lot harder when you're not spending millions a year on your body, alone, with a personal entourage. This is why nobody lasted nearly as long during his career vs. LeBron's.

And also...since when is providing full historical context "bashing"? Re: Playoff games available for both players, career? And, Haywood vs. The NBA and HS Drafts?

And, also, for every Lebron Thread that casts (appropriate) shade on his career and records here, there are about 20 Lebron Stan/Fapping Threads.

The (blind) worship about/total obsession over of this guy here is, frankly, paranormal.