[WINDHORST]: Lakers May Need To Trade For LeBron This Summer

[GSWFan1994]

LeBron thinks he's a master 693D chess player & manipulator through "leaked" info and comments via the media and his cohorts (Klutch), but for me he's only a petulant child who runs away to greener pastures once his demands are not met and he senses a better opportunity somewhere else.

This is one of the main reasons LeBron will never be on the same pedestal as Jordan. It's as simple as that.

U make him sound like a terrorist

Don't blame your lack of reading comprehension on me, pal!

[HurdyGurdyMan]

I wouldn't trade Kevin Love for him

[bisme37]

Lol Windhorst writes an article about nothing and titles it to make it sound like it's about everything. Then we all discuss everything and miss that there's nothing here.

Of course the Lakers need to make trades this summer. My cat could have told you that.

[NyKnicks1714]

Article says trade for LeBron, not trade LeBron.

Agreed, but the Lakers should consider trading LBJ this summer. They need to really think about whether they want to trade the picks that would be required to turn Westbrook into even an aging superstar like Beal or Dame. That's probably their 2027 and 2029 firsts and one or two swaps (this assumes they don't get outbid). Jeannie Buss is clearly not willing to go deep into the tax to put the best team around AD and LBJ that would be possible. So the Lakers would be left with no pick and no cap space for the foreseeable future to round out the roster, an injury plagued AD, an older LBJ, and Dame or Beal? That's best case scenario.

If I just put my mercenary hat on, and that's how the Laker's F.O. needs to start thinking, I wouldn't trade him to Cleveland. The Cavs have too much leverage given the fact that he's a F.A. in 2023 and they'll be looking it as though if they wait a year, they can have him without surrendering anything. A team like the Bulls or Sixers, who have windows that won't stay open forever might overpay for a one-year rental with the hope that they can win a ring with him and talk him into reupping for another season. Maxi, Thybulle, Ayo, and P. Williams are all nice young prospects. DeRozan or Harris make enough to be the primary salary filler. Maybe even get a pick on top, and there you are.

I don't know what type of representations the Lakers F.O. made to get LBJ there. Perhaps they feel as though they fulfilled them when they traded for AD. But if LBJ is carrying around a sense of betrayal, real or imagined, that's when him leaving isn't the worst thing in the world and getting out in front of that so you can get something in return is just smart business.

LeBron isn't getting traded unless he requests a trade, which he's never going to do.

More importantly though:The Lakers are one of very few teams who can nearly always be in win-now mode due to how big a FA draw they are. If this was the Kings or Pistons or Pacers or Thunder, etc. I'd maybe agree with the thinking. The Lakers though? Trade Westbrook and those picks, build a contender for 2 more seasons. Big name free agents will come soon enough.

[mademan]

but the picks they do have are very valuable because history shows that once lebron leaves a team that team is going to suck for awhile.

Does it? It allows teams to bottom out quick and their rebuilding depends on them. Cleveland the first time got like 4 top 5 picks in 3 years. If they drafted better, they wouldve been amazing. Miami retooled quickly and the 2nd time Lebron left, Cleveland knocked it out of the park with their top picks. But neither Cleveland or Miami traded picks 5 years out because neither traded for a player of AD's caliber (when healthy). Thats the Lakers problem

By way of introduction to mademan, my real name is Kenny:


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The Cavaliers are 35-23 and way better than the Lakers...

doclinkin and I think FRONT RUNNING is what some players and peeps do.

Me? I want Russell Westbrook to get the last laugh. He's not as good as Lebron but RW has made the most of his gifts and continues to play hard

Westbrook deserves better.

Lolling at Bron for the misforune he created for himself is fun, as is lolling at others when Lebron wins. The biggest lol is lolling at people who think WB plays hard. He plays hard for stats, nothing else. When he starts fighting over screens, rotating well and taking pride on defense, then you can say he plays hard.

[Reeko]

being traded to Cavs make a lot of sense.....

yeah until Laker fans say "for Evan Mobley"

mobley leaving for the west coast is an inevitability,,,however it plays out
born there
grew up there
went to school there

So did DeRozan, and he would've stayed in Toronto his whole career if they would've let him.

[Lalouie]

yeah until Laker fans say "for Evan Mobley"

mobley leaving for the west coast is an inevitability,,,however it plays out
born there
grew up there
went to school there

So did DeRozan, and he would've stayed in Toronto his whole career if they would've let him.

but toronto is a great city
love it there except i froze off my petunias there in OCTOBER once

[PierceFan4ever]

I can’t wait for this dude to retire. Dude hops around teams every few years once he realizes they aren’t title contenders for one season. His 4 rings are fraud with the way he switches teams to put himself in title contention. Had he stuck with Cleveland throughout or stayed with the Heat, he would have 2 rings at most. He’s nowhere near MJ. 19 years of all time great longevity for sure but Jordan accomplished more major awards in way less time and didn’t beg stars to join his team and then switching to join other stars.

[jbk1234]

Article says trade for LeBron, not trade LeBron.

Agreed, but the Lakers should consider trading LBJ this summer. They need to really think about whether they want to trade the picks that would be required to turn Westbrook into even an aging superstar like Beal or Dame. That's probably their 2027 and 2029 firsts and one or two swaps (this assumes they don't get outbid). Jeannie Buss is clearly not willing to go deep into the tax to put the best team around AD and LBJ that would be possible. So the Lakers would be left with no pick and no cap space for the foreseeable future to round out the roster, an injury plagued AD, an older LBJ, and Dame or Beal? That's best case scenario.

If I just put my mercenary hat on, and that's how the Laker's F.O. needs to start thinking, I wouldn't trade him to Cleveland. The Cavs have too much leverage given the fact that he's a F.A. in 2023 and they'll be looking it as though if they wait a year, they can have him without surrendering anything. A team like the Bulls or Sixers, who have windows that won't stay open forever might overpay for a one-year rental with the hope that they can win a ring with him and talk him into reupping for another season. Maxi, Thybulle, Ayo, and P. Williams are all nice young prospects. DeRozan or Harris make enough to be the primary salary filler. Maybe even get a pick on top, and there you are.

I don't know what type of representations the Lakers F.O. made to get LBJ there. Perhaps they feel as though they fulfilled them when they traded for AD. But if LBJ is carrying around a sense of betrayal, real or imagined, that's when him leaving isn't the worst thing in the world and getting out in front of that so you can get something in return is just smart business.

LeBron isn't getting traded unless he requests a trade, which he's never going to do.

More importantly though:The Lakers are one of very few teams who can nearly always be in win-now mode due to how big a FA draw they are. If this was the Kings or Pistons or Pacers or Thunder, etc. I'd maybe agree with the thinking. The Lakers though? Trade Westbrook and those picks, build a contender for 2 more seasons. Big name free agents will come soon enough.

The problem is that they're at the end stage Kobe here with at least one of their two core pieces and that makes it a lot harder to go the free agency route. Good free agents weren't flocking to the the Lakers when Kobe was making twenty-five percent of the cap at the end of his career. Also if you have AD and LBJ make 70% of the cap, once you've added in cap holds, there's not enough money to offer even a single vet max deal.

[wade44]

Lol Windhorst writes an article about nothing and titles it to make it sound like it's about everything. Then we all discuss everything and miss that there's nothing here.

Of course the Lakers need to make trades this summer. My cat could have told you that.

He said “may need to make trades this summer”

Sounds like a speculative piece on something that is common sense

[LAL1947]

I’ve stated this before. We’ve all seen this many times with Lebron. The Team gives up salary cap flexibility and future draft capital (or young players) to trade/sign for win now players that tie up most of their salary cap. Then sign ring chasers for vet minimum to fill out the roster. Once the team is out of moves to improve, Lebron cuts and runs to a better situation for him to compete for championships.

1. It happened with the Cavs in 2010
2. It happened with the Heat in 2014
3. It happened with the Cavs in 2018
4. It’s happening now with the Lakers in 2022

Don't say stuff like that and jinx it, lol. In case he then decides to do the something different this time. We WANT and NEED him to leave to get some assets back in the process.

Go home, Lebron.

[Memories]

being traded to Cavs make a lot of sense.....

yeah until Laker fans say "for Evan Mobley"

Yeah but is it THAT bad of an idea if the trade was basically Lebron for Mobley and picks? If your team would become immediate title contending favorites, that sounds like a win no?

Garland
Caris LeVert
Okoro
Lebron
Allen
+depth up the wazoo.

With that said, I don't know if Dan Gilbert would be interested in having a player that left him twice, even if it meant they would be immediate favorites to win.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Sam Presti got a war chest of assets (picks, young players) for the Lakers to help them rebuild or retool

https://www.google.com/search?q=sam+presti&oq=sam+presti&aqs=chrome..69i57.3386j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Luke Skywalker found out who his daddy really is

EDITED about hour later
that ish was I-offensedive


one black man

SHOULD NOT

make

whos yo daddy jokes

My pops is buried at Arlington. CW4 Tom Holmes

A two-time Vietnam war deployed veteran but WHO CARES....

my moms cried A LOT and much of my boyhood I wanted to get big enough to whoop his azz...

BUT THE GOOD LORD SAW FIT for me to get arrested at over 50 year old...

and NOT UNTIL my Daddy's last 6 months on this earth DID I KNOW JUST HOW MUCH my father actually really did love me...


sorry to ANYONE EVER OFFENDED by a who is yo daddy...or AiNT THAT YO Daddy messin w other women....

LAST

my pops manned up when FORCED TO MARRY my Mom in 1949...and they lived ..'married ... until divorced in 1977

[Bobbymcgee]

LeBron to the Rockets for John Wall.

Wall and Westbrook backcourt for Lakers.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

i phux itt up and can move along post apology

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

If Lebron requests it then yea sure. Which, given that this is being said by Windhorst who is Lebron’s mouth-piece, I’d assume Lebron might want this and would want to return to Cleveland.

Think of hype man ... sounds better to me than mouth piece ...

[jfs1000d]

Lebron is like 36. At what point do you just let him go? Lakers got their title out of Lebrun…fake one, but what ya gonna do?


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[ATRAIN53]

Windy is pretty good at picking up LeBrons pulse-

but Bill Simmons is the one that has really nailed it-
He's was telling everyone during the 2018 season that LeBron was going to LA next.
He even said at that time that LeBrons goal was to play with his son in a few years...
Said LeBron idolized Ken Griffey and how he played with his son. It's his mission to do it too.

Bronny wasn't even in HS or even 6ft when he said this.....
I thought it was crazy talk, wishful thinking.



He went to LA as Simmons projected.
He just dropped that tweet about playing with Bronny over the weekend.....

I think he knows that 6 titles is gonna be pretty tough to pull off now.
7 to top MJ is probably not happening.

He's all over the record books. Professional goals achieved.
What else is there to accomplish then besides this personal goal.

[anotherhomer]

being traded to Cavs make a lot of sense.....

yeah until Laker fans say "for Evan Mobley"

Yeah but is it THAT bad of an idea if the trade was basically Lebron for Mobley and picks? If your team would become immediate title contending favorites, that sounds like a win no?

Garland
Caris LeVert
Okoro
Lebron
Allen
+depth up the wazoo.

With that said, I don't know if Dan Gilbert would be interested in having a player that left him twice, even if it meant they would be immediate favorites to win.

the trade would be for sexton and kevin love plus picks

[NyKnicks1714]

Agreed, but the Lakers should consider trading LBJ this summer. They need to really think about whether they want to trade the picks that would be required to turn Westbrook into even an aging superstar like Beal or Dame. That's probably their 2027 and 2029 firsts and one or two swaps (this assumes they don't get outbid). Jeannie Buss is clearly not willing to go deep into the tax to put the best team around AD and LBJ that would be possible. So the Lakers would be left with no pick and no cap space for the foreseeable future to round out the roster, an injury plagued AD, an older LBJ, and Dame or Beal? That's best case scenario.

If I just put my mercenary hat on, and that's how the Laker's F.O. needs to start thinking, I wouldn't trade him to Cleveland. The Cavs have too much leverage given the fact that he's a F.A. in 2023 and they'll be looking it as though if they wait a year, they can have him without surrendering anything. A team like the Bulls or Sixers, who have windows that won't stay open forever might overpay for a one-year rental with the hope that they can win a ring with him and talk him into reupping for another season. Maxi, Thybulle, Ayo, and P. Williams are all nice young prospects. DeRozan or Harris make enough to be the primary salary filler. Maybe even get a pick on top, and there you are.

I don't know what type of representations the Lakers F.O. made to get LBJ there. Perhaps they feel as though they fulfilled them when they traded for AD. But if LBJ is carrying around a sense of betrayal, real or imagined, that's when him leaving isn't the worst thing in the world and getting out in front of that so you can get something in return is just smart business.

LeBron isn't getting traded unless he requests a trade, which he's never going to do.

More importantly though:The Lakers are one of very few teams who can nearly always be in win-now mode due to how big a FA draw they are. If this was the Kings or Pistons or Pacers or Thunder, etc. I'd maybe agree with the thinking. The Lakers though? Trade Westbrook and those picks, build a contender for 2 more seasons. Big name free agents will come soon enough.

The problem is that they're at the end stage Kobe here with at least one of their two core pieces and that makes it a lot harder to go the free agency route. Good free agents weren't flocking to the the Lakers when Kobe was making twenty-five percent of the cap at the end of his career. Also if you have AD and LBJ make 70% of the cap, once you've added in cap holds, there's not enough money to offer even a single vet max deal.

I'm talking about post-LeBron. I'm saying that trading 2027 and 2029 FRP's isn't as big a deal for the Lakers as it is for a team that's never going to draw elite players in free agency. Spend those picks to build contender for the next couple of seasons. Not having those picks won't be that big a deal when stars are eager to sign with you.