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Post#81 » by Ballerhogger » Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:43 am

He will be back next season .
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Post#82 » by LoveMyRaps » Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:46 am

Ballerhogger wrote:He will be back next season .


In a Pels uniform or another uniform? That's the million dollar question..

Gun to my head, I'd say the latter.
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LoveMyRaps wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:He will be back next season .


In a Pels uniform or another uniform? That's the million dollar question..

Gun to my head, I'd say the latter.

In another uniform or if griffin is fired . One or the other
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Post#84 » by BuddyBuckets » Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:51 am

Ballerhogger wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:He will be back next season .


In a Pels uniform or another uniform? That's the million dollar question..

Gun to my head, I'd say the latter.

In another uniform or if griffin is fired . One or the other


Not saying its impossible but it defies logic to trade Zion this off-season. Pels are in the drivers seat here and only an insane offer could pry Zion from them, an offer that no GM would make without seeing Zion dominating again.

Its a 'trust the process' moment in New Orleans.
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Post#85 » by NyKnicks1714 » Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:52 am

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Of course being able to dunk like that doesn't mean a player is ready to play in an NBA game...but this is still a bad look.


Bad look in what way? He looks great. People were just saying he's 350 pounds, and he doesn't even jiggle when jumping with his shirt off. None of you on this forum can say that except the 125 pounders. :lol:


It's a bad look in the sense that he's been sidelined the whole season, not communicating with his team for a period of time, been out of shape, and he's posting this video of himself pulling off an athletic dunk. I can't articulate why it seems inappropriate to me, but it does. Like if he was clearly all-in on the Pelicans, taking care of his body, being transparent about his rehab, it would be a different story entirely.
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Post#86 » by LoveMyRaps » Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:56 am

BuddyBuckets wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
In a Pels uniform or another uniform? That's the million dollar question..

Gun to my head, I'd say the latter.

In another uniform or if griffin is fired . One or the other


Not saying its impossible but it defies logic to trade Zion this off-season. Pels are in the drivers seat here and only an insane offer could pry Zion from them, an offer that no GM would make without seeing Zion dominating again.

Its a 'trust the process' moment in New Orleans.


True but at the same time... Zion could decide to sit out next season as well. This feels like another Simmons saga. It's clear his family doesn't want him playing in New Orleans.
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Post#87 » by NO-KG-AI » Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:01 am

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Of course being able to dunk like that doesn't mean a player is ready to play in an NBA game...but this is still a bad look.


Bad look in what way? He looks great. People were just saying he's 350 pounds, and he doesn't even jiggle when jumping with his shirt off. None of you on this forum can say that except the 125 pounders. :lol:


It's a bad look in the sense that he's been sidelined the whole season, not communicating with his team for a period of time, been out of shape, and he's posting this video of himself pulling off an athletic dunk. I can't articulate why it seems inappropriate to me, but it does. Like if he was clearly all-in on the Pelicans, taking care of his body, being transparent about his rehab, it would be a different story entirely.


He clearly hasn't been out of shape and showed up magically in shape over night here. There wasn't ever any real proof that he got way overweight, and now it's very clear he's been taking staying in shape serious.

The rift in the team and Zion in the past was that he felt like he was ready to play and the team insists on trying to keep him out when he's medically clear, to hang onto some sort of future we might never even see.

Our actual insiders(not the national media speculating) are implying this might be the case again. I don't see what the Pels gain by trying to stretch this out, so if it's true, it's only going to piss Zion off, and hurt the team in the short term as well.

If he gets cleared and feels ready, he needs to be out there asap. Babying him to try and make him last 20 years worked wonders with AD.
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Post#88 » by NO-KG-AI » Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:09 am

to be clear, I think there is a rift with the organization and Zion, but I think it's the opposite of what is being implied. I think this video was a passive aggressive statement that he plans on playing, and if they hold him out, it's not because of him, it's because of whatever the reason they held him out extra long and insisted on minute restrictions when he was dominating as a rookie.
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Post#89 » by Funcrusher » Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:23 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:to be clear, I think there is a rift with the organization and Zion, but I think it's the opposite of what is being implied. I think this video was a passive aggressive statement that he plans on playing, and if they hold him out, it's not because of him, it's because of whatever the reason they held him out extra long and insisted on minute restrictions when he was dominating as a rookie.

im so sick of the drama, and Zion has had some culpability in it but at the same time this fo makes no sense to me. If he can play atm, what is the point in holding him out till next season? Enough with the babying
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Post#90 » by Upperclass » Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:55 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:to be clear, I think there is a rift with the organization and Zion, but I think it's the opposite of what is being implied. I think this video was a passive aggressive statement that he plans on playing, and if they hold him out, it's not because of him, it's because of whatever the reason they held him out extra long and insisted on minute restrictions when he was dominating as a rookie.


If they're doing this imo, its because they got a vibe that he was ready to play earlier when the team was struggling, and now that they are competing, hes suddenly ready to play. It also aligns perfectly with the end of the season for him to show a bit of health, enough productivity to remind fans why he was so sought after, and then the Pels are forced to keep and max him or face fan backlash. If he doesnt play this season, then its fairly obvious they plan on trading him, likely before the draft. He isnt the difference between a playin/first round out and a chip though, so its a smart play tbh
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Post#91 » by Funcrusher » Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:58 am

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NO-KG-AI wrote:to be clear, I think there is a rift with the organization and Zion, but I think it's the opposite of what is being implied. I think this video was a passive aggressive statement that he plans on playing, and if they hold him out, it's not because of him, it's because of whatever the reason they held him out extra long and insisted on minute restrictions when he was dominating as a rookie.


If they're doing this imo, its because they got a vibe that he was ready to play earlier when the team was struggling, and now that they are competing, hes suddenly ready to play. It also aligns perfectly with the end of the season for him to show a bit of health, enough productivity to remind fans why he was so sought after, and then the Pels are forced to keep and max him or face fan backlash. If he doesnt play this season, then its fairly obvious they plan on trading him, likely before the draft. He isnt the difference between a playin/first round out and a chip though, so its a smart play tbh

they're not going to trade and him playing this year has no impact on him getting a max. Put down the tinfoil
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Post#92 » by NO-KG-AI » Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:39 am

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NO-KG-AI wrote:to be clear, I think there is a rift with the organization and Zion, but I think it's the opposite of what is being implied. I think this video was a passive aggressive statement that he plans on playing, and if they hold him out, it's not because of him, it's because of whatever the reason they held him out extra long and insisted on minute restrictions when he was dominating as a rookie.

im so sick of the drama, and Zion has had some culpability in it but at the same time this fo makes no sense to me. If he can play atm, what is the point in holding him out till next season? Enough with the babying


Completely agree. Doesn't help us now, and it doesn't help Zion's future as a player or asset.

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NO-KG-AI wrote:to be clear, I think there is a rift with the organization and Zion, but I think it's the opposite of what is being implied. I think this video was a passive aggressive statement that he plans on playing, and if they hold him out, it's not because of him, it's because of whatever the reason they held him out extra long and insisted on minute restrictions when he was dominating as a rookie.


If they're doing this imo, its because they got a vibe that he was ready to play earlier when the team was struggling, and now that they are competing, hes suddenly ready to play. It also aligns perfectly with the end of the season for him to show a bit of health, enough productivity to remind fans why he was so sought after, and then the Pels are forced to keep and max him or face fan backlash. If he doesnt play this season, then its fairly obvious they plan on trading him, likely before the draft. He isnt the difference between a playin/first round out and a chip though, so its a smart play tbh


Doubtful, he's going to get maxed either way because he's proven high caliber all star play from the second he stepped on the floor. Pels aren't going to trade him when he couldn't get lower in value, and he's also not going to pass on a max. We've been competitive all season aside from a 1-12 startt, and the organization kicked off the year lying about Zion's injury to the fans and media.

They did prove that there are virtually 0 leaks from either side, so the rumors are always baseless IMO.
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Post#93 » by sp6r=underrated » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:28 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:to be clear, I think there is a rift with the organization and Zion, but I think it's the opposite of what is being implied. I think this video was a passive aggressive statement that he plans on playing, and if they hold him out, it's not because of him, it's because of whatever the reason they held him out extra long and insisted on minute restrictions when he was dominating as a rookie.


sounds like the anti-Kawhi. Kawhi fell out with organizations he felt were trying to force him to play when he wasn't ready. Zion may be falling out because he feels the team keeps him off the court.
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Post#94 » by tbhawksfan1 » Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:52 am

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Funcrusher wrote:i forgot you're very anal about the definition of the word fat :lol:

Let me rephrase. He's currently not at a bad weight? Happy?


Has he lost 50 pounds? He's absolutely at an unhealthy body weight. And heavy guys, even lean ones with foot issues have serious concerns. The fact he's carrying a spare tire isn't helpful at all.

He's lost weight but he's literally never losing 50 pounds (or should ever). Unless he was ever upwards of 320 which i doubt. You can keep regurgitating this tired take but it doesn't hold water. 265 - 280 will always be his playing weight


Zion likely hasn't seen 265 since he was about 16 years old
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Post#95 » by NO-KG-AI » Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:59 am

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NO-KG-AI wrote:to be clear, I think there is a rift with the organization and Zion, but I think it's the opposite of what is being implied. I think this video was a passive aggressive statement that he plans on playing, and if they hold him out, it's not because of him, it's because of whatever the reason they held him out extra long and insisted on minute restrictions when he was dominating as a rookie.


sounds like the anti-Kawhi. Kawhi fell out with organizations he felt were trying to force him to play when he wasn't ready. Zion may be falling out because he feels the team keeps him off the court.


Exactly.
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Post#96 » by Fencer reregistered » Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:01 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:Sucks for the Pels.

Zion through three seasons 85 games played.

Greg Oden through three seasons 88 games played (Including playoffs).

Joel Embiid through three seasons 31 games played.

We'll see which direction Zion goes in, next season is probably the tipping point for him.


The diva-ish leaks that Zion has never to my knowledge disavowed are not a good sign.

Embiid was a wise-ass, but I don't recall him ever putting himself above the team.

Oden, of course, was a drunkard.
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Post#97 » by PlatinumState » Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:30 am

Ballerhogger wrote:He will be back next season .


We cant know that. Another issue could pop up
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Post#98 » by ATRAIN53 » Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:56 pm

There has to be an insurance angle here why NO doesn't seem to care and isn't making a stink over this....

Like they can make a claim if he doesn't play all year and they get paid - so it's pretty much a wash.

I'm fine with hi resting and getting healthy for when he eventually signs with the Knicks.....
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Post#99 » by PlatinumState » Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:03 pm

Hes never gonna sign for the Knicks
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Post#100 » by Smirk » Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:20 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:He will be back next season .


In a Pels uniform or another uniform? That's the million dollar question..

Gun to my head, I'd say the latter.


Yall watch way too much national media wishcasting and don't know what you are talking about.

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