who can beat the suns?

[Ritzo]

Tim Donaghy

[Meeksology]

I cant help but say that the Suns toughest challenge will be coming from the west. Whoever makes it out of the east would have gone through 3 rounds of grueling battles to get there and would prolly be gassed. Or at least extremely fatigued. If an East team wins the chip this yr, I'd give it more merit than if a team from the west wins it.

[hardenASG13]

If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

Care to respond to my other post on the previous page, regarding the bucks "smaking" the Nets in game 4 when Kyrie went down (They were coming back, after starting the game slow). Have you seen a lot of instances where teams lose the first 2 on the road, getting blown out in game 2 (by 39)!), and come back to win the series? Its not usually how it goes. The other team typically can come back to win a desperate game 3, which the bucks did, and then lose in 5 or 6.

If you think the bucks win 2 of the next 3 with Irving healthy, agree to disagree. But the Bucks barely did it facing KD with Jeff Green as his #2. Bucks fans are very sensitive about this....a little too much if you ask me. Even Giannis said KD was the best player in the world , during the series! If you dont think the Nets are a threat, or that based on what was shown last year with a healthy Kyrie that they wouldve taken care of Milwaukee, youve lost your ability to look at it objectively. Which is fine if your a Bucks fan, just kind of weak.

You seem to put a lot of weight in a game which Bryn Forbes played 20+ minutes and Thanasis, one of the worst players in the league imo, played 10 minutes, and a whole bunch of other scrubs got run.
Bottonline is it's not uncommon to win 2 at home and still lose the series. Bucks were up when Kyrie went out. Yeah Nets were on a little run but still losing. The team that was up AND at home likely wins that game and ties the series regardless, but you seem to think the Nets somehow win the series "easily" and anyone who thinks Bucks still had a chance is a delusional homer, and I don't agree with that at all.
Not a Bucks fan btw.

I was referring to the guy who made a comment about his aunt having balls being a bucks fan, not you.

Sorry, its not common for a team to lose the first two, getting blown out in game 2 by 39, to come back and win a series. It is common for them to win game 3. Im not putting a ton of weight on game 4, I said that numerous times here. While im still convinced the nets wouldve won that game, its aside the point. If they go 2-2, i feel strongly the Bucks dont win 2 of the next 3, based on what we all saw in games 1-3, and the fact that they were an inch away from not doing it anyway, with a team whos top 3 were KD, jeff green and blake griffin. That combined with the Bucks failures the previous two years. Just think its crazy to not consider the nets a contender after seeing that and considering they have improved their roster from last years playoff team vs. Milwaukee. Cant wait to see how it plays out this year.

[hardenASG13]

If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

Care to respond to my other post on the previous page, regarding the bucks "smaking" the Nets in game 4 when Kyrie went down (They were coming back, after starting the game slow). Have you seen a lot of instances where teams lose the first 2 on the road, getting blown out in game 2 (by 39)!), and come back to win the series? Its not usually how it goes. The other team typically can come back to win a desperate game 3, which the bucks did, and then lose in 5 or 6.

If you think the bucks win 2 of the next 3 with Irving healthy, agree to disagree. But the Bucks barely did it facing KD with Jeff Green as his #2. Bucks fans are very sensitive about this....a little too much if you ask me. Even Giannis said KD was the best player in the world , during the series! If you dont think the Nets are a threat, or that based on what was shown last year with a healthy Kyrie that they wouldve taken care of Milwaukee, youve lost your ability to look at it objectively. Which is fine if your a Bucks fan, just kind of weak.

2016 finals

That is a singular instance. Its not a pattern, therefore more unlikely it wouldve happened again. Either way, not here to argue with people about that bucks nets series, ive done that plenty. I hope they matchup both healthy this year. Nets are the team to beat imo, and i think they beat phoenix in the finals.

[Slim Charless]

You (and others) dont think the Nets have a chance too? They have the best duo, in KD and Kyrie, and its not even close in my opinion. Same duo was on their way to eliminating the Bucks, rather easily last year, before Kyrie went down. Alot of people dont like to acknowledge this, but we all saw it. Even if Kyrie never gets hurt, and Milwaukee won game 4 still (which i dont think was gonna happen), I dont see them winning in game 7 had Kyrie been healthy, they barely did vs. the KD/Jeff green duo.

Either way, i wont argue with the teams you listed from the east. Id just add the nets and philly as a healthy embiid will be a major problem, as long as Harden doesnt disappear on him. I dont see anyone aside from Memphis/GS challenging the Suns out West.

If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

Care to respond to my other post on the previous page, regarding the bucks "smaking" the Nets in game 4 when Kyrie went down (They were coming back, after starting the game slow). Have you seen a lot of instances where teams lose the first 2 on the road, getting blown out in game 2 (by 39)!), and come back to win the series? Its not usually how it goes. The other team typically can come back to win a desperate game 3, which the bucks did, and then lose in 5 or 6.

If you think the bucks win 2 of the next 3 with Irving healthy, agree to disagree. But the Bucks barely did it facing KD with Jeff Green as his #2. Bucks fans are very sensitive about this....a little too much if you ask me. Even Giannis said KD was the best player in the world , during the series! If you dont think the Nets are a threat, or that based on what was shown last year with a healthy Kyrie that they wouldve taken care of Milwaukee, youve lost your ability to look at it objectively. Which is fine if your a Bucks fan, just kind of weak.

They're sensitive because they know it's true.

Had the Nets had either a healthy Kyrie or a healthy Harden, the Bambis would've lost. KD by himself almost did it. I'd also point out that Trae was on a bum ankle for the ECF and the refs allowed Giannis to commit foul after foul in the Finals. I mean, they won a chip so congrats to all of their fans. Let's see how they deal with Brooklyn and Boston in this year's playoffs.

[carrrnuttt]

If the suns and Celtics meet in the finals, it will be epic. Offense vs defense.

So uhh, which one is the defensive team and which one's the offensive team?

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[Slim Charless]

Raptors can beat the Suns but too bad we won't get a chance

You guys played us tough this year. We barely won the 1st game and we lost the second lol. Raps are a tough, physical team with a lot of big, quick, strong dudes. You won't be an easy out for whoever you play in the playoffss.

[dWadeOwnzYou]

At full strenght the Heat certaintly can.

[robbie84]

If the suns and Celtics meet in the finals, it will be epic. Offense vs defense.

So uhh, which one is the defensive team and which one's the offensive team?

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The best defensive team in the NBA.

[bisme37]

If the suns and Celtics meet in the finals, it will be epic. Offense vs defense.

So uhh, which one is the defensive team and which one's the offensive team?

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Yeah I don't really know either haha becuase both teams have been great on both ends. Celtics have the best defense on the season but the Suns are great too. And over the last month or so the Celts have actually had the best offense as well, and best net rating. Suns have fallen off a tiny bit but CP and Cam have been out of course.

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[ChuckChilly]

Any team in the playoffs could potentially beat them. They're a very good squad but nothing about them screams formidable.

[falcolombardi]

Care to respond to my other post on the previous page, regarding the bucks "smaking" the Nets in game 4 when Kyrie went down (They were coming back, after starting the game slow). Have you seen a lot of instances where teams lose the first 2 on the road, getting blown out in game 2 (by 39)!), and come back to win the series? Its not usually how it goes. The other team typically can come back to win a desperate game 3, which the bucks did, and then lose in 5 or 6.

If you think the bucks win 2 of the next 3 with Irving healthy, agree to disagree. But the Bucks barely did it facing KD with Jeff Green as his #2. Bucks fans are very sensitive about this....a little too much if you ask me. Even Giannis said KD was the best player in the world , during the series! If you dont think the Nets are a threat, or that based on what was shown last year with a healthy Kyrie that they wouldve taken care of Milwaukee, youve lost your ability to look at it objectively. Which is fine if your a Bucks fan, just kind of weak.

2016 finals

That is a singular instance. Its not a pattern, therefore more unlikely it wouldve happened again. Either way, not here to argue with people about that bucks nets series, ive done that plenty. I hope they matchup both healthy this year. Nets are the team to beat imo, and i think they beat phoenix in the finals.

also happened in 2019 bucks vs raptors

is not common to come back down 0-2 without hca

but if you change the question to "how many teams won a series they tied 2-2 after being down 0-2 without hca" i would imagine is not that lopsided

and bucks were likely tying the series in game 4

[thamadkant]

clearly it will be difficult to beat the suns when the refs DEMAND that the suns win, like they are doing right now.

Is this one clear evidence of a blatant lie?

Suns are one of the bottom rung teams in regards to getting free throws.

[thamadkant]

clearly it will be difficult to beat the suns when the refs DEMAND that the suns win, like they are doing right now.

Is this one clear evidence of a blatant lie?

Suns are one of the bottom rung teams in regards to getting free throws.

[thamadkant]

A few teams can beat the Suns... any team with enough fire power from 3pter or could get the Suns wings into foul trouble can beat the Suns...

now whether they can beat the Suns 4 games in a series is the question... but Bucks has the 2-way players to push hard.

[buckboy]

If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

Care to respond to my other post on the previous page, regarding the bucks "smaking" the Nets in game 4 when Kyrie went down (They were coming back, after starting the game slow). Have you seen a lot of instances where teams lose the first 2 on the road, getting blown out in game 2 (by 39)!), and come back to win the series? Its not usually how it goes. The other team typically can come back to win a desperate game 3, which the bucks did, and then lose in 5 or 6.

If you think the bucks win 2 of the next 3 with Irving healthy, agree to disagree. But the Bucks barely did it facing KD with Jeff Green as his #2. Bucks fans are very sensitive about this....a little too much if you ask me. Even Giannis said KD was the best player in the world , during the series! If you dont think the Nets are a threat, or that based on what was shown last year with a healthy Kyrie that they wouldve taken care of Milwaukee, youve lost your ability to look at it objectively. Which is fine if your a Bucks fan, just kind of weak.

They're sensitive because they know it's true.

Had the Nets had either a healthy Kyrie or a healthy Harden, the Bambis would've lost. KD by himself almost did it. I'd also point out that Trae was on a bum ankle for the ECF and the refs allowed Giannis to commit foul after foul in the Finals. I mean, they won a chip so congrats to all of their fans. Let's see how they deal with Brooklyn and Boston in this year's playoffs.

The ifs are flying!

[Jaqua92]

They're not a transcendent team.

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Cute. This is no indication of the matchup heavy style of playoff play.

How often do teams win titles without a top 10 player?

Don't know who's going to win it all this year, but I feel WAY more confident saying it won't be the Suns than it will be.

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[thamadkant]

I think we see a finals rematch. The Bucks are better until they get dethroned but the Suns shored up some holes from last year’s roster. I think losing after being up 2-0 has boosted their motivation and focus. The biggest x-factor is Ayton not being a deer in headlights this time around.

Ayton was clearly outmatched when Giannis was basically attacking him a lot and when Ayton resisted he got called for fouls that he wasnt getting against Zubac or other bigs.
Then you have Crowder and Craig coming in playing center as Ayton had foul trouble and when he was back on, due to foul trouble Ayton became a liability because he wasnt playing defense like he is used to.

The McGee and Biyombo signing fixes that.

But also Ayton is on a mission this season, especially against the Bucks, notice he is super aggressive and productive the 2 games against the Bucks... he is going hard against Bucks front court and he is putting 100% or more in every play. This tells me Ayton is focused and motivated after experiencing the Finals.

[clippertown]

There is a very real chance that the Suns will play either the Clips or the Lakers in the first round. Obviously, the Suns will be heavy favorites, but I would never bet against LBJ in playoff mode (possibly with AD) and also never bet against the Clips with PG back and also maybe Kawhi. In those situations, the Suns don't really match up well against either team.

The problem with the Suns is that Booker can wilt under pressure and CP3 is not always a solid scorer at the playoff level. Certainly, the Lakers with a healthy LBJ and AD would be able to push the Suns to the limits if they play close to their potential.

[thamadkant]

As a Suns fan who've watched every single game since leaguepass became available in my country, this current Suns team's biggest weakness is when teams decide to let Booker isolate and try to score every possession. That was a high risk in the past, medium risk last season and this season... its low risk because Monty will yank Booker out accordingly or run plays for Mikal to front face and score. Mikal is having his best season so far and has become a 20 point threat every night.

If teams figure out a way to make Booker isolate more again, then Suns system will crumble because Suns strength is sharing the ball and having 4 players who can score 20+ with enough shots.... efficiently.