Post-Mortem: 2021-22 New York Knicks

[iBall101]

Lets be honest. If the knicks managed to stay healthy as a team with no major injuries. They would easily crack the play-in. They’re a good team just had a bad fate of injuries this year.

[Asian Celtic]

Lets be honest. If the knicks managed to stay healthy as a team with no major injuries. They would easily crack the play-in. They’re a good team just had a bad fate of injuries this year.

Let's be fair as well, every team has had their own covid + injuries part of the season. If a healthy Knicks was your scenario vs all other healthy teams then the knicks still suck given the play-in is their ceiling with good health.

[Nazrmohamed]

Lets be honest. If the knicks managed to stay healthy as a team with no major injuries. They would easily crack the play-in. They’re a good team just had a bad fate of injuries this year.

Let's be fair as well, every team has had their own covid + injuries part of the season. If a healthy Knicks was your scenario vs all other healthy teams then the knicks still suck given the play-in is their ceiling with good health.

Yeah but the difference is our injuries were to players or positions so integral to how we played as a team that I feel like it mightve been better than just play in. Probably like 8th or 7th seed. Don't sound great either but everyone expected us to slide to some extent.

[John Murdoch]

Westy for Randle/Fournier makes alot of sense for both parties. Get outta bad deals , and maybe Utah would entertain RJ/1st for Mitchell

[Johnny Bball]

Again, how does anyone justify Leon Rose staying when he did this?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/NYK.html

They don't get off Randle and Fourier until 2026 and that's how long it will be until they might have cap space. They near max Barrett, walk away from Robinson and they are probably at or over the tax? Someone needs to rip it apart and it rarely ends up being the guy that built it.

[cgf]

Again, how does anyone justify Leon Rose staying when he did this?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/NYK.html

They don't get off Randle and Fourier until 2026 and that's how long it will be until they might have cap space. They near max Barrett, walk away from Robinson and they are probably at or over the tax? Someone needs to rip it apart and it rarely ends up being the guy that built it.

Fournier only has two more years guaranteed, so they can get off him in 2024, not 2026. I thought it was the wrong move for us, but if you look at what guys like that get paid, Fournier's salary is right in line with his peers/comparables & we avoided giving him that guaranteed fourth season that Duncan Robinson got

Randle's only getting 106/4years unless he bounces back in a big way & hits his bonuses, which is an overpay, but not a crippling one. To average ~29.6M on this new deal he would need to make the allstar game for the next 4 years and drag us to the playoffs each of those seasons...at which point, there wouldn't be many knicks fans that had an issue with his salary.

And how much do you expect Robinson to get? We have ~26M under the tax to pay for our pick & Mitch, without dumping anyone. Do you really think that won't be enough to afford Mitch? I'd like to sign him to a deal around 55M over 4 years, but would go up to 65-70M if that's what it took...neither of which would put us at the tax.

Not saying the FO did well last summer, they definitely didn't do what I wanted and made mistakes, but you're painting things more grimly than they really are...if the FO learned from their mistakes...

[cgf]

Westy for Randle/Fournier makes alot of sense for both parties. Get outta bad deals , and maybe Utah would entertain RJ/1st for Mitchell

It could make sense if Randle is making keeping him any longer untenable behind closed doors...but if he's not & the only offer is Russ without any picks attached, it makes more sense for us to hold onto him until RJ takes the reins as our #1. Plus, hopefully, Julius' value will have bounced back some by that point...especially if our FO addresses the PG spot.