Eastern Conference | Round 1 | (4) Philadelphia 76ers vs. (5) Toronto Raptors (PHI 3-2)

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Series Prediction for 76ers vs. Raptors?

76ers in 4
46
25%
76ers in 5
40
22%
76ers in 6
11
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76ers in 7
4
2%
Raptors in 6
12
7%
Raptors in 7
70
38%
 
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Re: Eastern Conference | Round 1 | (4) Philadelphia 76ers vs. (5) Toronto Raptors (PHI 2-0) 

Post#81 » by Eyeamok » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:19 pm

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Snotbubbles wrote:The Raptors are toast. When Joel Embiid subs out to start the second and the score is 33-32 Raps, and he re-enters the game 5 minutes later and it's 55-44 Sixers, you aren't winning the game. Those are minutes that opposing teams have to own. I don't want to hear anyone complain about referee bias, this stretch right here ending any chance the Raptors had of winning that game last night.


Yes that was interesting. Usually the Sixers replace Embiid with another true center or even Millsap. Paul Reed is a surprise that the Raptors can't solve. The Sixers are now more athletic when Embiid sits. They can't attack Reed with size, the Raptors don't have any. Excellent Doc Rivers coaching move!


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Post#82 » by Eyeamok » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:22 pm

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Two of the least appealing games

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I like to see my team score more points than the other team. How about you?

I also like to see Maxey light teams up like a f'k'n Christmas tree. That's fun!


I won't lie I also like to see Tobias Harris be an asset to the team and the coming out of the mud of BBall Paul. This is also fun too.
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Re: Eastern Conference | Round 1 | (4) Philadelphia 76ers vs. (5) Toronto Raptors (PHI 2-0) 

Post#83 » by Snotbubbles » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:22 pm

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Raptors nearly doubled their offensive rebounds, forced 14 turnovers instead of 3. All of that is nearly down to team effort and not one particular player.


And still lost by double digits. This iteration of the Raptors isn't good enough to win.


We'll find out soon enough. Personally I doubt that Philly can sustain shooting at 51.6% from the field and 48.4% from three for the remainder of this series. I'm expecting our defense to tighten.


I don't think Philly needs to shoot as well as they have to beat Toronto.
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Post#84 » by TheGameWinner » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:25 pm

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You were up for like 3 minutes at the start of the game. The level of crying and whining is just beyond pathetic at this point.


All I hear is the 7 bounces that bounced your only championship contention hopes. It's not crying, it's literally a fact. When our team is basically g-league outside of our top 4, and the refs put everyone in foul trouble, because of your stars baiting contact.. how is that not factual? Embiid is the biggest flopper in the league and troll.. who cost your team their only change in their history a championship (i.e. with Butler).


You mean the play where Kawhi took like 7 steps before dribbling? Great example of how the refs aren't biased against your team.

You have a bunch of 6'8" guys alternating between sprinting at Embiid and being incapable of maintaining post position against him, I'm not sure how you can expect a lot of fouls not to be called. Go get a real center like you had in 2019 and it won't happen as much.


See Harden's multiple travels across G1 / G2 and then complain about Kawhi's "travel" which btw I do not agree with you.

How can you maintain post position when you get an elbow or shoulder to the chest... or an elbow to the face? :P
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Post#85 » by TheGameWinner » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:27 pm

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You were up for like 3 minutes at the start of the game. The level of crying and whining is just beyond pathetic at this point.


All I hear is the 7 bounces that bounced your only championship contention hopes. It's not crying, it's literally a fact. When our team is basically g-league outside of our top 4, and the refs put everyone in foul trouble, because of your stars baiting contact.. how is that not factual? Embiid is the biggest flopper in the league and troll.. who cost your team their only change in their history a championship (i.e. with Butler).


Oh wow, what a surprise, the response is to remind us that you beat us in a game four years ago. The refs aren't putting everyone in foul trouble, they are putting themselves in foul trouble by fouling.

And who knows if that was our only shot at a championship. Maybe one year everyone will get injured and we can celebrate a fake title like you!


I mean - listen, if you're going to be delusional about the brand of basketball your two star players are playing - that is fine. I betcha if I go back and see games against Harden v Sixers, you probably cried about the way Harden played.

Ultimately health is a skill. Unfortunately, when your star player deliberately tries and has injured our players, we don't really have a chance this series.
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Post#86 » by LloydFree » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:28 pm

Rubio9Guy wrote:I can't imagine being a 76ers fan and actually having to watch Harden and Embiid.

Two of the least appealing games

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LOL.

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Post#87 » by BullyKing » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:30 pm

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All I hear is the 7 bounces that bounced your only championship contention hopes. It's not crying, it's literally a fact. When our team is basically g-league outside of our top 4, and the refs put everyone in foul trouble, because of your stars baiting contact.. how is that not factual? Embiid is the biggest flopper in the league and troll.. who cost your team their only change in their history a championship (i.e. with Butler).


Oh wow, what a surprise, the response is to remind us that you beat us in a game four years ago. The refs aren't putting everyone in foul trouble, they are putting themselves in foul trouble by fouling.

And who knows if that was our only shot at a championship. Maybe one year everyone will get injured and we can celebrate a fake title like you!


I mean - listen, if you're going to be delusional about the brand of basketball your two star players are playing - that is fine. I betcha if I go back and see games against Harden v Sixers, you probably cried about the way Harden played.

Ultimately health is a skill. Unfortunately, when your star player deliberately tries and has injured our players, we don't really have a chance this series.


Deliberately tries to injure players. Bro, I'm not sure why you think it's more important to come off as a blindly loyal fan than to have an ounce of self respect for yourself but it's truly sad. If you get this worked up over a game of basketball that you need to will yourself into delusions then you should probably find another hobby.
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Post#88 » by TheGameWinner » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:32 pm

BullyKing wrote:
TheGameWinner wrote:
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Oh wow, what a surprise, the response is to remind us that you beat us in a game four years ago. The refs aren't putting everyone in foul trouble, they are putting themselves in foul trouble by fouling.

And who knows if that was our only shot at a championship. Maybe one year everyone will get injured and we can celebrate a fake title like you!


I mean - listen, if you're going to be delusional about the brand of basketball your two star players are playing - that is fine. I betcha if I go back and see games against Harden v Sixers, you probably cried about the way Harden played.

Ultimately health is a skill. Unfortunately, when your star player deliberately tries and has injured our players, we don't really have a chance this series.


Deliberately tries to injure players. Bro, I'm not sure why you think it's more important to come off as a blindly loyal fan than to have an ounce of self respect for yourself but it's truly sad. If you get this worked up over a game of basketball that you need to will yourself into delusions then you should probably find another hobby.


I'm completely fine. You're the one all upset. Embiid literally trampled on Scottie Barnes and threw multiple elbows to the face of our players. If a raptors player did this to you guys - you'd have a meltdown LOL, bro.
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Post#89 » by Sixerscan » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:34 pm

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TheGameWinner wrote:
All I hear is the 7 bounces that bounced your only championship contention hopes. It's not crying, it's literally a fact. When our team is basically g-league outside of our top 4, and the refs put everyone in foul trouble, because of your stars baiting contact.. how is that not factual? Embiid is the biggest flopper in the league and troll.. who cost your team their only change in their history a championship (i.e. with Butler).


You mean the play where Kawhi took like 7 steps before dribbling? Great example of how the refs aren't biased against your team.

You have a bunch of 6'8" guys alternating between sprinting at Embiid and being incapable of maintaining post position against him, I'm not sure how you can expect a lot of fouls not to be called. Go get a real center like you had in 2019 and it won't happen as much.


See Harden's multiple travels across G1 / G2 and then complain about Kawhi's "travel" which btw I do not agree with you.

How can you maintain post position when you get an elbow or shoulder to the chest... or an elbow to the face? :P


I'm not complaining about the travel I'm trying to show you how if you break any game tape down in slow motion like it's the Zapruder film and you're always going to find borderline stuff the refs have to make calls on in real time. There are borderline calls that go your way too you just aren't looking for it. Your team is putting itself in position to have lots of fouls called on them by aggressively helping without anyone who can actually match up with him physically.

The only conspiracy here is Nick Nurse's game plan and Masai Ujiri's roster building.
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Post#90 » by Murray_17 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:37 pm

fbalmeida wrote:During the regular season, Philly shot 46.6% - 36.4% and 58% TS.
In this series thus far they're at: 51.6% - 48.4% (!!!!) and 67.1%.

Meanwhile, the Raptors are shooting very close, and slightly above, their regular season averages.

Small sample size of course, but those Philly rates are either sustainable, and something has gone dramatically wrong with the Raptors' 10th best rated defense, or it isn't sustainable and Raptors will even this up.

This series isn't over.


Issue is, those first numbers also have a sample size issue.

Yeah, those % are unsustainable but are also a result of the scheme.

Raptors normally double Embiid. With Harden on the line up he basically see an open guy every time he get by his men because of the double. That logically will lead to open shots.

With a competent PG, the size adventage Embiid had over the Raptors is actually explotable. Your defense has been exploitable because your committement to stop the Harden/Embiid PnR has lead to open shots for Tobias and Maxey.

The amount of open corner 3's the Sixers got right at the start of the first game are the best example of this.

I agree with you, this is still a series tho until we actually win one game in Toronto. Coming back 2-2 to Philly could de hard for us
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Post#91 » by Courtside » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:38 pm

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Raps brought it to themselves by letting 6’9” players defend Jojo. Jojo defenders are either too short or too weak.

When you are at a disadvantage physically on defense, you tend to gamble more to compensate for it. This is why you see Achiuwa getting played around with those dream shakes and up and under by jojo.

Siakam, Birch, Achiuwa and Boucher all are too weak to not get bullied by Embiid at the paint. See how deep he is getting inside the paint.

If you have Giannis, Horford, Gasol or Brolo defending Jojo, Jojo wouldnt be able to score this easily.

There is no Raps player that has the combination of size and quickness to defend Jojo.

Jojo’s defender and the help defense has to gamble (jump, tries for deflection, tries to block the path) in order to stop jojo and those are leading to fouls.

Did we all forget that playoffs is all about star power and match-ups?

Sixers have both the star power and the advantage on match-ups.

So you're basically saying that one sided officiating should be expected because Joel already has an advantage and it's about star power.

At least you're being honest.


No, what he is saying is that the Raptors have no one to guard Embiid so they are forced to foul him and - gasp - the refs are calling them. This isn't complicated.

They aren't allowing the Raptors to match any sort of physicality with Joel. The things that are being called fouls are laughable half the time, where if it was two 6'9 players it wouldn't get called - and doesn't get called at the other end - but when it's Joel, any sort of defense with contact is a foul.

You saying that all they do is foul is bogus. Of course he has been legit fouled, but 1) a lot were not, and 2) the same type of contact is allowed defensively by Philly is not being allowed to Toronto.

23 - 7 free throws in the firsr half. More than triple. And you're going to say with a straight face that this doesn't massively impact momentum and how the Raptors play defense the rest of the game? Jumping out to an 11-2 lead before Joel is allowed to bull his way into defenders who aren't allowed any contact in return, completely turning the tide of the game?

It's laughable that you think this is all totally ok.

The Sixers advantages already exist, they don't need the refs going and exaggerating them even more.
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Post#92 » by Rubio9Guy » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:39 pm

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Rubio9Guy wrote:I can't imagine being a 76ers fan and actually having to watch Harden and Embiid.

Two of the least appealing games

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LOL.

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Post#93 » by BullyKing » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:42 pm

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I mean - listen, if you're going to be delusional about the brand of basketball your two star players are playing - that is fine. I betcha if I go back and see games against Harden v Sixers, you probably cried about the way Harden played.

Ultimately health is a skill. Unfortunately, when your star player deliberately tries and has injured our players, we don't really have a chance this series.


Deliberately tries to injure players. Bro, I'm not sure why you think it's more important to come off as a blindly loyal fan than to have an ounce of self respect for yourself but it's truly sad. If you get this worked up over a game of basketball that you need to will yourself into delusions then you should probably find another hobby.


I'm completely fine. You're the one all upset. Embiid literally trampled on Scottie Barnes and threw multiple elbows to the face of our players. If a raptors player did this to you guys - you'd have a meltdown LOL, bro.


Except none of this is true. Siakam smacked Embiid in the face last night - do you see 5,000 posts from Sixers fans crying about it? Nope, that's firmly your territory.
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Post#94 » by stormi » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:44 pm

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Rubio9Guy wrote:I can't imagine being a 76ers fan and actually having to watch Harden and Embiid.

Two of the least appealing games

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LOL.

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Is that what we're considering flopping?

Embiid turns his left ankle and Harden gets slammed into by about 400 lbs of mass in his neck.

You're trying too hard.
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Post#95 » by Courtside » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:51 pm

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Is that what we're considering flopping?

Embiid turns his left ankle and Harden gets slammed into by about 400 lbs of mass in his neck.

You're trying too hard.

What color is the sky in your world!?

Anonoby was staying in front of a driving Harden, until Embiid shoves Achiuwa into Anunoby, creating a wall that Harden drives into and flops. Embiid, for no reason at all, also flops.

Neither Achiuiwa (who was shoved) or Anunoby (who got shoved into) fall down - and they both absorbed Harden's momentum... but the two guys creating the contact fall like a couple of dead fish. It was Harden's momentum that didn't cause either defender to fall, yet was enough to send Joel falling over because he has no ankles.

Joel creates the entire situation with a very obvious offensive foul = foul on the Raptors.

Anyone who says that was a legit foul is being dishonest.
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Post#96 » by stormi » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:55 pm

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Is that what we're considering flopping?

Embiid turns his left ankle and Harden gets slammed into by about 400 lbs of mass in his neck.

You're trying too hard.

What color is the sky in your world!?

Anonoby was staying in front of a driving Harden, until Embiid shoves Achiuwa into Anunoby, creating a wall that Harden drives into and flops. Embiid, for no reason at all, also flops.

Neither Achiuiwa (who was shoved) or Anunoby (who got shoved into) fall down, but the two guys creating the contact fall like a couple of dead fish.

Foul on the Raptors.

Anyone who says that was a legit foul is being dishonest.


You're arguing with a wall. I've never said it was, or wasn't a foul. It looks like an accident where players legitimately got banged up. Embiid was moving faster than Precious, it looks like he stepped in front of him to wall him off and his momentum carried all of them into collision.

The image is there of them lying on the floor like they died, but Harden gets rammed into and Embiid's ankle does a spin. No flop.
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Post#97 » by stormi » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:56 pm

TAKE AWAY EMBIID'S FREETHROWS AND HE CAN'T SCORE

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Post#98 » by Courtside » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:01 pm

stormi wrote:TAKE AWAY EMBIID'S FREETHROWS AND HE CAN'T SCORE

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That was a legit foul. No one is complaining about that one.

It looked like Joel was bringing the ball up so Siakam went up with both hands to defend the shot, but Joel was trying to take an extra step and so Pascal's shot defense ended up coming down over Embiid, who was taking another instead.

Proper foul call.
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Post#99 » by Black Mage » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:06 pm

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I mean the game is about momentum. We were killing your team. Then Embiid gets a bunch of fouls in a row, deflates the game, puts our players into foul trouble. Hard to recover when you have 6-8 players on the court. The raptors team 5-12 is g-league... so we suck when the refs screw us.

That said, Philly is better this year. RS never means anything...


You were up for like 3 minutes at the start of the game. The level of crying and whining is just beyond pathetic at this point.


All I hear is the 7 bounces that bounced your only championship contention hopes. It's not crying, it's literally a fact. When our team is basically g-league outside of our top 4, and the refs put everyone in foul trouble, because of your stars baiting contact.. how is that not factual? Embiid is the biggest flopper in the league and troll.. who cost your team their only change in their history a championship (i.e. with Butler).


It's also fact Kawhi carried the ball like a running back on the inbounds and didn't get called for a travel. Didn't hear a single cry-baby Raptors fans bemoan that they only got past the Sixers b/c it was 8 on 5 in their favor.
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Post#100 » by durka » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:13 pm

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Two of the least appealing games

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I like to see my team score more points than the other team. How about you?

I also like to see Maxey light teams up like a f'k'n Christmas tree. That's fun!


I won't lie I also like to see Tobias Harris be an asset to the team and the coming out of the mud of BBall Paul. This is also fun too.

Say what you want about how much he's getting paid, but if Harris is your fourth-option then your team is in good shape.

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