Woj: Utah Plans on Rebuilding Around Donovan Mitchell; How Long Before He Wants Out?
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Would say next off season only because most teams already spent their assets
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He'll be traded before the season starts. Trading Gobert and not rebuilding makes no sense. They reached their peak with the core they had.
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Reminds me of OKC trading Paul George and Russ, I know PG told them, not demanded, that he would like to be traded to the Clippers, and Russ was the odd man out after. But Presti, was willing to accommodate because he has 2 years to see what they could do and he knew they weren't contenders. Same situation the Jazz are in. Conley's old and has no tread left, they traded key bench players in Ingles and O'Neal, Traded their 2nd best player and a DPOY in Gobert. Aside from Mitchell who do they even have? He's gonna be 26 this season, he's too old to rebuild a championship team around and he's not gonna wanna play for a rebuilding team in the first place.
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Best2EverDoIt wrote:Reminds me of OKC trading Paul George and Russ, I know PG told them, not demanded, that he would like to be traded to the Clippers, and Russ was the odd man out after. But Presti, was willing to accommodate because he has 2 years to see what they could do and he knew they weren't contenders. Same situation the Jazz are in. Conley's old and has no tread left, they traded key bench players in Ingles and O'Neal, Traded their 2nd best player and a DPOY in Gobert. Aside from Mitchell who do they even have? He's gonna be 26 this season, he's too old to rebuild a championship team around and he's not gonna wanna play for a rebuilding team in the first place.
I get the feeling that Ainge was brought by the new ownership for just that reason. The writing it pretty clear that the Jazz are going to deal Mitchell. Just simply a matter of waiting for the right one. Building around Mitchell was typical smoke.
daoneandonly wrote:Utah doesnt have anyhting close value wise to get Dallas to even pick up the phone
Said in reference to Utah's trade assets in a potential Doncic deal.
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They should call OKC, Detroit and Houston, they are further along on their rebuilds, and Mitchell is still young, his contract is even nice after the ones we seeing now
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_qubik wrote:They should call OKC, Detroit and Houston, they are further along on their rebuilds, and Mitchell is still young, his contract is even nice after the ones we seeing now
If Utah gets its '24 back from OKC as part of it, count me in. After that, trade for Russ to be the commander of this tank and LET'S ROLL!!!!
daoneandonly wrote:Utah doesnt have anyhting close value wise to get Dallas to even pick up the phone
Said in reference to Utah's trade assets in a potential Doncic deal.
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leolozon wrote:There's no point in keeping Mitchell. They won't make the playoffs. Mitchell isn't great enough. They should tank as fast as possible and keeping Mitchell will just delay things.
Could be just a way to get better offers
Umm they made the playoffs Mitchell rookie year even after loosing Gordon Hayward to Boston in free agent If I remember correctly they beat okc in the 1st round can’t be to sure tho
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Charlesareed wrote:leolozon wrote:There's no point in keeping Mitchell. They won't make the playoffs. Mitchell isn't great enough. They should tank as fast as possible and keeping Mitchell will just delay things.
Could be just a way to get better offers
Umm they made the playoffs Mitchell rookie year even after loosing Gordon Hayward to Boston in free agent If I remember correctly they beat okc in the 1st round can’t be to sure tho
Umm this isn't the same team and the same opponents.
Mitchell isn't a top 15 player in the league. Not sure what's the point in rebuilding around him to maybe be a treadmill team.
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Charlesareed wrote:leolozon wrote:There's no point in keeping Mitchell. They won't make the playoffs. Mitchell isn't great enough. They should tank as fast as possible and keeping Mitchell will just delay things.
Could be just a way to get better offers
Umm they made the playoffs Mitchell rookie year even after loosing Gordon Hayward to Boston in free agent If I remember correctly they beat okc in the 1st round can’t be to sure tho
That had nothing to do with Mitchell and everything to do with Gobert.
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Rauxcee wrote:Charlesareed wrote:leolozon wrote:There's no point in keeping Mitchell. They won't make the playoffs. Mitchell isn't great enough. They should tank as fast as possible and keeping Mitchell will just delay things.
Could be just a way to get better offers
Umm they made the playoffs Mitchell rookie year even after loosing Gordon Hayward to Boston in free agent If I remember correctly they beat okc in the 1st round can’t be to sure tho
That had nothing to do with Mitchell and everything to do with Gobert.
This times 1000. People are underestimating the impact losing gobert is going to have.
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CallMeKahn wrote:_qubik wrote:They should call OKC, Detroit and Houston, they are further along on their rebuilds, and Mitchell is still young, his contract is even nice after the ones we seeing now
If Utah gets its '24 back from OKC as part of it, count me in. After that, trade for Russ to be the commander of this tank and LET'S ROLL!!!!
Win win scenario, totally agreed, kickstarting the rebuild wich already has a lot of assets
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Too early for Detroit & Houston tho OKC could work._qubik wrote:They should call OKC, Detroit and Houston, they are further along on their rebuilds, and Mitchell is still young, his contract is even nice after the ones we seeing now
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Who the hell knows what Ainge has up his sleeves - really unclear at this point whether he will move Mitchell for another epic haul and a multi-year re-build or actually build around Mitchell. Regarding the latter, while there is some disagreement amongst Jazz fans, I actually do think one can build a team around him, even tough this past season he arguably wasn't that guy. With the right personnel around him, (which includes him not needing to be so ball dominant), we very well could see him take that next step, (thermo-nuclear playoff Spida). We'll see - totally new territory ahead for a team famous for not making big moves. One thing was clear - the Jazz were too salary constrained to compete with the alpha dogs in the WC. Now suddenly, they have the most flexibility in the league.
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We deserve at least one season of people getting to see that Gobert wasn't actually the problem all along.
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He’s visiting New York right now. I really think this is where he’ll be traded. Brunson and Mitchell would be a legendary back court! Ainge packed him with a bow and sent him to sell himself to the Knicks franchise!
I think Utah would take Randle (and trade him later for more picks) + Reddish + Quickley and the Dallas pick and all the picks they got from OKC and then maybe 2023 and 2025 unprotected and 2024 and 2026 pick swaps. That sounds about right. Works in the trade machine.
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If the Jazz trade Mitchell, I think they will want NBA ready rotation players/starters. They already have 1 or 2 first round picks per year, and Ainge ran into the problem with the Celtics of having too many picks, and wasted a lot of them.
Knicks fans already dreaming of getting Mitchell for some bum backups and heavily protected picks.
The Jazz have little incentive to trade Mitchell right now. It's gonna take a lot.
Knicks fans already dreaming of getting Mitchell for some bum backups and heavily protected picks.

The Jazz have little incentive to trade Mitchell right now. It's gonna take a lot.
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Best2EverDoIt wrote:He'll be traded before the season starts. Trading Gobert and not rebuilding makes no sense. They reached their peak with the core they had.
I think it's just a negotiating tactic. I agree keeping mitchell makes no sense. Conley/Mitchell/Bogdon is a play in team at best.