[Super Hot Take From Igoudala] Rasheed Wallace > Giannis Antetokounmpo In Todays NBA

[Admiral-Kizaru]

This is a laughable claim. Iggy has joined the prestigious list of very smart on-court players who would make comically bad basketball executives.

Giannis gets disrespected a lot by older players... first Oakley, now Iguodala.

And he already has a title, most importantly, as the main player.

That's why I'm rooting for him to get more... these old fellas will burn their tongues in due time.

Similar to Shaq, a lot of players really resent his obvious physical gifts.

Yep... remember Harden's "all he can do is run and dunk" comment?

run 'n dunk man is still only running and dunking and somehow people still can't stop him

[UcanUwill]

When jocks talk down media and say actual players should vote for NBA awards and all that sort of stuff, you show them takes like these to shut them up.

[LloydFree]

Rasheed Wallace is the most underrated player of the last 25 years. Was a 2-way, number 1 option for a NBA Champion and perennial contender, but doesn't get anywhere near the respect that some of the 1-way Power Forwards of his era received
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[Balls Deep]

Wallace was a top 30 (= borderline All-Star) player for the better part of a decade. That's not "wasn't anything special".

Obviously not a MVP candidate, but there are layers in this.

So 4 All-Star appearances in 18 years deserves being talked about this way well after they retire? When did standards drop so low? Are we going to say Kyle Lowry would be a top 5 player a decade from now too?

Please re-read and, most importantly, learn to understand what I wrote in my previous post. Thanks.

Top 30 for a decade isn’t special. Special is a perennial MVP candidate and best player on championship contenders. But whatever floats your boat.

[Cavsfansince84]

Rasheed Wallace is the most underrated player of the last 25 years. Was a 2-way, number 1 option for a NBA Champion and perennial contender, but doesn't get anywhere near the respect that some of the 1-way Power Forwards of his era received
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That's going a little overboard. He was a #3 option for Det and even then at less than 13fgapg. I'd agree he's generally underrated.

[LewisnotMiller]

I really hope that in 20 years, today's players don't make statements like, "Mike Conley would be a top 5 player if he played in 2042".

Won't happen. Whilst he might theoretically be able to hit the 5 pointer, I don't think he'd be able to make enough cartwheel dunks to keep the scoreboard ticking over...

[OdomFan]

I don't know about being better than Giannis, but Sheed would definitely be great in this 3 point shooting era. Dude could knock those buckets down when the game was on the line. Problem with him is that his attitude was bad more often than not. However if you put him in a great situation like he got to later in his career with the Pistons that be great for him.

I imagine a squad like the modern Celtics, Miami Heat or even todays Trailblazers might be a good fit for him to be excelled.

[Ruma85]

I really hope that in 20 years, today's players don't make statements like, "Mike Conley would be a top 5 player if he played in 2042".

He wouldn't be, Though conley is heavily underrated on this board.

[og15]

Rasheed Wallace is the most underrated player of the last 25 years. Was a 2-way, number 1 option for a NBA Champion and perennial contender, but doesn't get anywhere near the respect that some of the 1-way Power Forwards of his era received
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The first 13 ppg first option I've seen. Sheed was the Pistons 3rd leading scorer, 3rd in scoring attempts (FGA and FTA) in the playoffs, was not their primary playmaker and was not their go to guy down the stretch, how does that translate into a number 1 option? Why am I actually responding to this is what I should be asking myself

[og15]

I really hope that in 20 years, today's players don't make statements like, "Mike Conley would be a top 5 player if he played in 2042".

He wouldn't be, Though conley is heavily underrated on this board.

Most people like Conley, but there's not much rating to do as it relates to him. Always been a solid player borderline All-Star level, but he has never stood out in any particular way either.

[Laimbeer]

More like super stupid.

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[Pantsman]

Why are players and former players always the dumbest

[DaPessimist]

That's not a hot take, it's a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) take.

Rasheed was a mental midget. He wouldn't be top 5 in any era of basketball.

[BAMAFREAK]

Y’all ain’t even got to prop Sheed up in here. We all k is he’s a player, but every single one of you should acknowledge how ignorant of a take this is from Iggy. Sheed ain’t in Giannis’ stratosphere as a player

[shangrila]

Iguodala's premise is just, "since he can shoot from outside and had range", that's it. Rasheed was NOT a volume scorer or take over player, it had nothing to do with era playstyle.

Being in a league where outside shooting is utilized more doesn't make him any of those things. Heck, sometimes we complained that Sheed was to comfortable settling for outisde shots instead of attacking, and he might just too much from three.

Iguodala should know himself, he's also a player who has a lot of skills but never had the mentality or overall scoring skillset to be a #1 option or guy that takes over offensively.

Sheed would be great, but era doesn't take him from very good two way player to top 5 guy and yearly MVP candidate, that's simply ridiculous.

I wonder how the techs would go with him in the modern era.

On the one hand refs seem more trigger happy than I remember growing up, so maybe he'd have it worse. On the flip side I watch Draymond Green do everything short of pulling out his jockstrap and slapping the refs in the face with it and no tech so...maybe not.

[MrBigShot]

I love Sheed but god damn does his potential get overrated sometimes. I've seen people on realgm imply he was as talented as KG and Duncan.

He was very talented but the reality is that in his best season statistically he put up 18/8/3 on 50/32/77. He was just a respectable rebounder and never a prolific scorer. He could've been better if he was more individually motivated, but not to the extent that people think.

Giannis will contend for top 10 all time. He's leaps and bounds better and would be in any era.

[SpiderX1016]

I loved to watch those Pistons but I don't care what ERA he's in, Sheed just wasn't that guy. Very good 3rd option though.
I feel like I get what Iguodala is trying to say but over Giannis? I'm out.

[Antinomy]

I don’t know which is worse.

Him saying Rasheed would be a Top 5 player today OR him saying he’d be better than Giannis — which means he either doesn’t consider Giannis to be Top 5 right now, or he has Giannis at #5 & is booting him out.

[Antinomy]

Also since most bigs in the league shoot 3s nowadays, wouldn’t that mean the league would be more equipped to defend him?

He was rarer in his era. He’s a dime a dozen now.

If he couldn’t stretch the floor & dominant back then, when teams were trotting Shawn Bradley out there, why would he do it now.

It wasn’t even like he was an elite shooter either. Plenty of bigs now can shoot 30-35% on 5+ attempts per game — even Giannis has done it.

[Sane]

Andre Iguodala is launching a podcast and is one of the most business minded people in the NBA. Expect several intentional hot takes in the near future because pissing you off is like injecting steroids into your Youtube channel and algorithm strategy.

it surprised me that people still havent caught onto the bait yet. you gotta at least move the boat a little bit or change the type of food on the hook once in a while when you go fishing.

Not if the fish are dumb. Not if the fish keep coming back. I've worked heavily in this industry and only last month told myself I can't go another day executing this for people.

It's leading to serious medical (mental) issues because every business is reaching into and through your phone to jolt your stable emotions. It's a scientific formula, if I make you have any feeling whatsoever (anger, surprise, laughter, anything), then I can convince you to engage with me better than a logical discussion/analysis. Unfortunately the cheapest and easiest thing to do - especially for people with 0 talent - is to generate anger. Comedians are a great example of how to do it in a positive way. I can tell you a difficult thing in the spirit of laughing together. But how is Kendrick Perkins going to make you love his words? He can't. He has to say something that triggers you to get ratings, it's his only way to a pay check in that system.

Unfortunate, but I think people are waking up to it these days because they're realizing "hey how come we suddenly have to meditate all the time to not feel emotionally chaotic?" Yeah, this is why.