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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#81 » by JimmyPlopper » Mon Aug 29, 2022 3:57 am

Karl Malone has some of the worst alleged crimes so we can throw him into the convo as well. Additionally, the comment he made about Vanessa Bryant was pretty scummy (though on brand)
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#82 » by The Rebel » Mon Aug 29, 2022 3:57 am

Meat wrote:It’s a bit disgusting that the clear answer to everyone wasn’t Bridges

Bridges is not the worst, he is just an idiot.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#83 » by Darthlukey » Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:00 am

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Tracymcgoaty wrote:Kyrie is the right answer here imo. There isn't a single person on this forum who'd say they'd have no problems playing with Kyrie with a straight face. Dude is a straight up virus to team chemistry.

Not wanting to play with and toxic aren’t the same thing. Kyrie is far from toxic, hell he seems to be a very compassionate caring person.

But only so long as its related to taking a contrarian view or raging against the machine (that he is very much a part of) whilst refusing to properly honour the contract that he signed. Blowing up your locker room, undercutting management and the coaching staff as much as possible. I would consider these things toxic. Not the end of the world by any stretch (far worse people out there), but not conducive to a healthy winning team environment at all.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#84 » by The Rebel » Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:01 am

CIN-C-STAR wrote:Currently I think it's Westbrook, Kyrie and Ben Simmons.
Historically there are a lot of good ones, but haven't heard AI mentioned. That Pistons squad could have been good but he just wasn't willing to fit in.
Rodman was another one. He was toxic in San Antonio before helping the Bulls 3peat. If he was in the right situation great player to have, but if not he seems like the kind of guy who could wreck your whole team.
Rick Barry may have been the most unlikable superstar ever, though I don't know if he was "toxic." He did lead his team to a title.

Rodman was toxic everywhere he went, including Detroit by the end of his stay and Chicago where Jordan and Phil looked the other way and covered for him. He was also accused of domestic violence by all three of his ex-wives and had a whole myriad of crazy behavior off court.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#85 » by GSWFan1994 » Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:03 am

JTG_92940618 wrote:Cousins bullied Stauskas and threatened to fight him.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/philadelphia-76ers/apparently-demarcus-cousins-threatened-fight-nik-stauskas-plane

There's a thread about it here from 2017 - viewtopic.php?t=1529230


Thank you for the reply. I really didn't remember this story.

Nothing new with Cousins, I guess. Well, karma came back at him in some way.

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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#86 » by Yinwest » Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:09 am

Point-Forward wrote:Surprised nobody mentioned Rick Barry yet. He had a pretty bad reputation back in the day.

That's probably the main reason he's so criminally underrated as an all time great.

Good call, i might add Elvin Hayes as well.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#87 » by tsirigoj » Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:27 am

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DubsDynasty wrote:Who is the NBA player, past or present, with the most toxic personality that you would least want to be on your favorite team for that reason no matter how great at basketball he is/was?

Lebron. For as toxic as players like Kyrie or KD are, they are at least well known toxic players who dont hide it. Bron hides a lot of his toxicity in the shadows and has a lot of people fooled into thinking he is great for the game


Spoken like a true hater.

Yep. A man who builds a school where kids that don't even have college on their radar graduate and go to college for free, a man who is planning to build a hospital in low-income communities, a man who married his high school sweetheart and not 1 affair, a man who is known as a family man -- wow. Truly toxic.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#88 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Mon Aug 29, 2022 5:17 am

Can we stop being idiotic and listing players that have multiple championships on their resume? Obviously they aren’t that toxic if they have multiple fingers with rings. Really it’s your attitude towards them is toxic and they are in your head owning real estate.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#89 » by Darthlukey » Mon Aug 29, 2022 5:45 am

tsirigoj wrote:
Darthlukey wrote:
DubsDynasty wrote:Who is the NBA player, past or present, with the most toxic personality that you would least want to be on your favorite team for that reason no matter how great at basketball he is/was?

Lebron. For as toxic as players like Kyrie or KD are, they are at least well known toxic players who dont hide it. Bron hides a lot of his toxicity in the shadows and has a lot of people fooled into thinking he is great for the game


Spoken like a true hater.

Yep. A man who builds a school where kids that don't even have college on their radar graduate and go to college for free, a man who is planning to build a hospital in low-income communities, a man who married his high school sweetheart and not 1 affair, a man who is known as a family man -- wow. Truly toxic.

Cmon man, off court (non-basketball) and on court (basketball related) are two very different things, though I feel like he is a hypocritical knob off the court. The fact that you jump in and feel the need to raise those non-bball issues help illustrate my point.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#90 » by Darthlukey » Mon Aug 29, 2022 5:45 am

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Can we stop being idiotic and listing players that have multiple championships on their resume? Obviously they aren’t that toxic if they have multiple fingers with rings. Really it’s your attitude towards them is toxic and they are in your head owning real estate.

Its possible to be horribly toxic for the game and the league and still win titles. They arent mutually exclusive. Repeatedly taking the easy way out and being celebrated for it, as an example.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#91 » by Onlytimewilltel » Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:30 am

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Can we stop being idiotic and listing players that have multiple championships on their resume? Obviously they aren’t that toxic if they have multiple fingers with rings. Really it’s your attitude towards them is toxic and they are in your head owning real estate.


These are not mutually exclusive. A player can be a toxic as**ole and still win a ring if the team is good enough. Thinking otherwise might be… idiotic …
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#92 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:56 am

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JimmyPlopper wrote:Without being in the actual locker room it's hard to say. I always found it easy to root against Michael Jordan due to his personality

What?? So a guy who helps his teammates be great and sticks with the organization that drafted him that never won and turns them into a dynasty is toxic?
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#93 » by garrick » Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:04 am

If it's the 90's I have to go with SA/LAL/DAL version of Dennis Rodman.

Without MJ to motivate him he just stat padded rebounds and was always late and caused a bunch of problems to the point that eventually no team wanted him because he was mentally checked out and a drama queen.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#94 » by Ducklett » Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:05 am

Just on the court? Dray or Randle

In the locker room? Westbrook

Off the court (non-criminal)? KD

In all of the basketball world? Stephen A.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#95 » by michaelm » Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:21 am

Darthlukey wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Can we stop being idiotic and listing players that have multiple championships on their resume? Obviously they aren’t that toxic if they have multiple fingers with rings. Really it’s your attitude towards them is toxic and they are in your head owning real estate.

Its possible to be horribly toxic for the game and the league and still win titles. They arent mutually exclusive. Repeatedly taking the easy way out and being celebrated for it, as an example.

Yes, being involved in the defeat of a LeBron led team is obviously outrageously toxic.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#96 » by JN61 » Mon Aug 29, 2022 10:09 am

LeBron clearly. His history of throwing his teammates under the bus directly or through his media pawns is as long as a hunger year. He also has extensive history to manipulate his followers to do the same.
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#97 » by JN61 » Mon Aug 29, 2022 10:12 am

tsirigoj wrote:
Darthlukey wrote:
DubsDynasty wrote:Who is the NBA player, past or present, with the most toxic personality that you would least want to be on your favorite team for that reason no matter how great at basketball he is/was?

Lebron. For as toxic as players like Kyrie or KD are, they are at least well known toxic players who dont hide it. Bron hides a lot of his toxicity in the shadows and has a lot of people fooled into thinking he is great for the game


Spoken like a true hater.

Yep. A man who builds a school where kids that don't even have college on their radar graduate and go to college for free, a man who is planning to build a hospital in low-income communities, a man who married his high school sweetheart and not 1 affair, a man who is known as a family man -- wow. Truly toxic.

Just worth noting that LeBron's school project was funded by the state/city. He was just front man claiming to put all this money in but the state paid it all back.
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#98 » by eyeatoma » Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:17 pm

Tim Kempton wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Tim Kempton wrote:Currently it's Durant. But that's low hanging fruit.

Derek Fisher and Nate Robinson are up there but Mark Jackson would probably be my #1. He has a history of purposely dividing locker rooms and organizations as a player and a coach. Not to mention his awful phony personality and off-court nonsense.


Genuinely curious, what offcourt nonsense?


He cheated on his wife of 20 something years with a stripper. It got exposed when the stripper tried to extort him by threatening to reveal his inappropriate pictures to the public unless he paid her. By the way, he was a pastor at the time. Story here: https://www.sfgate.com/warriors/article/Woman-man-charged-in-Mark-Jackson-extortion-case-3672018.php

This more innocent but still ridiculous story of Mark Jackson taking Steph Curry to his congregation so he could heal Steph's ankle. Story here: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/ex-warriors-coach-mark-jacksons-church-tried-to-heal-stephen-currys-ankle-with-oil/

Jackson flaunting his homophobia and telling people that Jason Collins and Rick Welts (Warriors' Team President at the time) were "penis grabbers" who were going to hell. Story here: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/ex-warriors-coach-mark-jacksons-church-tried-to-heal-stephen-currys-ankle-with-oil/

His beliefs are his beliefs, but it's pretty stupid to voice that publicly when you're working for the team.


Wow, what a POS! Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#99 » by jasonxxx102 » Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:25 pm

Darthlukey wrote:
tsirigoj wrote:
Darthlukey wrote:Lebron. For as toxic as players like Kyrie or KD are, they are at least well known toxic players who dont hide it. Bron hides a lot of his toxicity in the shadows and has a lot of people fooled into thinking he is great for the game


Spoken like a true hater.

Yep. A man who builds a school where kids that don't even have college on their radar graduate and go to college for free, a man who is planning to build a hospital in low-income communities, a man who married his high school sweetheart and not 1 affair, a man who is known as a family man -- wow. Truly toxic.

Cmon man, off court (non-basketball) and on court (basketball related) are two very different things, though I feel like he is a hypocritical knob off the court. The fact that you jump in and feel the need to raise those non-bball issues help illustrate my point.


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Re: Most toxic personality 

Post#100 » by nikster » Mon Aug 29, 2022 1:26 pm

JN61 wrote:
tsirigoj wrote:
Darthlukey wrote:Lebron. For as toxic as players like Kyrie or KD are, they are at least well known toxic players who dont hide it. Bron hides a lot of his toxicity in the shadows and has a lot of people fooled into thinking he is great for the game


Spoken like a true hater.

Yep. A man who builds a school where kids that don't even have college on their radar graduate and go to college for free, a man who is planning to build a hospital in low-income communities, a man who married his high school sweetheart and not 1 affair, a man who is known as a family man -- wow. Truly toxic.

Just worth noting that LeBron's school project was funded by the state/city. He was just front man claiming to put all this money in but the state paid it all back.

Just worth noting that he paid millions and plans to commit funding to the project long term. It will end up being 10s of millions contributed. and Lebron and his foundation approached the school board with the idea.

Not a single source to say his foundation is recouping all that money. Of course the guy saying Lebron is toxic is making up lies about his charitable donations

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