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Re: Mac McClung seems to perform well in every scenario, but keeps getting cut... 

Post#81 » by FeatheryTouch » Fri Oct 7, 2022 4:13 am

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They both are barely NBA players.!


Now you are just hating, you just big mad the Asian dude was in the Nba and u aint. :lol: :lol:


He was barely an NBA player. He will not be receiving a full pension.


Your obsession with pensions is a bit weird.

There are a million ways to judge NBA talent - stats, advanced stats, measurables, making rosters, making winning plays, contributing to winning teams, the good old fashioned eye test, etc.

All that and you are settling on 10 year pensions as the measuring stick of who is an NBA talent or not?

Garrett Temple, Udonis Haslem, Anthony Tolliver - fully pensioned NBA players

Brandon Roy - not an NBA player

Brad Daugherty- not an NBA player

Ralph Sampson - not an NBA player

Andrew Toney - not an NBA player

Hall of Famer Yao Ming - not an NBA player

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Post#82 » by Ayt » Fri Oct 7, 2022 4:27 am

Is that dude actually serious about the pension thing?
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Post#83 » by CobraCommander » Fri Oct 7, 2022 9:00 am

ClipsFanAgain wrote:https://youtube.com/shorts/VeDlPxFZ_5s?feature=share

Kerr said they want a pass first PG.

Like steph and poole
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Post#84 » by SelfishPlayer » Fri Oct 7, 2022 10:23 am

FeatheryTouch wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
alebaba wrote:
Now you are just hating, you just big mad the Asian dude was in the Nba and u aint. :lol: :lol:


He was barely an NBA player. He will not be receiving a full pension.


Your obsession with pensions is a bit weird.

There are a million ways to judge NBA talent - stats, advanced stats, measurables, making rosters, making winning plays, contributing to winning teams, the good old fashioned eye test, etc.

All that and you are settling on 10 year pensions as the measuring stick of who is an NBA talent or not?

Garrett Temple, Udonis Haslem, Anthony Tolliver - fully pensioned NBA players

Brandon Roy - not an NBA player

Brad Daugherty- not an NBA player

Ralph Sampson - not an NBA player

Andrew Toney - not an NBA player

Hall of Famer Yao Ming - not an NBA player

/facepalm


Distinctions, players you listed have earned many. Jeremy Lin was a journeyman at best that only started for two seasons and wasn't good enough to play in the NBA long enough to earn a full pension. He had the sort of career that an okay lottery pick usually has like a Malik Monk is on track to have a similar career of no distinctions.
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Re: Mac McClung seems to perform well in every scenario, but keeps getting cut... 

Post#85 » by og15 » Fri Oct 7, 2022 1:45 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:
FeatheryTouch wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
He was barely an NBA player. He will not be receiving a full pension.


Your obsession with pensions is a bit weird.

There are a million ways to judge NBA talent - stats, advanced stats, measurables, making rosters, making winning plays, contributing to winning teams, the good old fashioned eye test, etc.

All that and you are settling on 10 year pensions as the measuring stick of who is an NBA talent or not?

Garrett Temple, Udonis Haslem, Anthony Tolliver - fully pensioned NBA players

Brandon Roy - not an NBA player

Brad Daugherty- not an NBA player

Ralph Sampson - not an NBA player

Andrew Toney - not an NBA player

Hall of Famer Yao Ming - not an NBA player

/facepalm


Distinctions, players you listed have earned many. Jeremy Lin was a journeyman at best that only started for two seasons and wasn't good enough to play in the NBA long enough to earn a full pension. He had the sort of career that an okay lottery pick usually has like a Malik Monk is on track to have a similar career of no distinctions.

Since when did pension become the defining line for whether a player was "barely and NBA player". Quite the odd take here, but to each their own :lol: :lol:
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Post#86 » by michaelm » Fri Oct 7, 2022 2:16 pm

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ClipsFanAgain wrote:https://youtube.com/shorts/VeDlPxFZ_5s?feature=share

Kerr said they want a pass first PG.

Like steph and poole

Perhaps why they want a pass first PG if they are to have another one.
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Post#88 » by Blame Rasho » Fri Oct 7, 2022 2:25 pm

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Post#89 » by lambchop » Fri Oct 7, 2022 2:31 pm

michaelm wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:
ClipsFanAgain wrote:https://youtube.com/shorts/VeDlPxFZ_5s?feature=share

Kerr said they want a pass first PG.

Like steph and poole

Perhaps why they want a pass first PG if they are to have another one.


Yep, imagine someone like 2020 Rondo on this team getting 10-12 minutes every other game. Poole, Steph and Klay would have it even easier.
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Post#90 » by SelfishPlayer » Fri Oct 7, 2022 2:35 pm

og15 wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
FeatheryTouch wrote:
Your obsession with pensions is a bit weird.

There are a million ways to judge NBA talent - stats, advanced stats, measurables, making rosters, making winning plays, contributing to winning teams, the good old fashioned eye test, etc.

All that and you are settling on 10 year pensions as the measuring stick of who is an NBA talent or not?

Garrett Temple, Udonis Haslem, Anthony Tolliver - fully pensioned NBA players

Brandon Roy - not an NBA player

Brad Daugherty- not an NBA player

Ralph Sampson - not an NBA player

Andrew Toney - not an NBA player

Hall of Famer Yao Ming - not an NBA player

/facepalm


Distinctions, players you listed have earned many. Jeremy Lin was a journeyman at best that only started for two seasons and wasn't good enough to play in the NBA long enough to earn a full pension. He had the sort of career that an okay lottery pick usually has like a Malik Monk is on track to have a similar career of no distinctions.

Since when did pension become the defining line for whether a player was "barely and NBA player". Quite the odd take here, but to each their own :lol: :lol:


Journeyman at best..
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Re: Mac McClung seems to perform well in every scenario, but keeps getting cut... 

Post#91 » by og15 » Fri Oct 7, 2022 5:23 pm

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Distinctions, players you listed have earned many. Jeremy Lin was a journeyman at best that only started for two seasons and wasn't good enough to play in the NBA long enough to earn a full pension. He had the sort of career that an okay lottery pick usually has like a Malik Monk is on track to have a similar career of no distinctions.

Since when did pension become the defining line for whether a player was "barely and NBA player". Quite the odd take here, but to each their own :lol: :lol:


Journeyman at best..

Yea, certainly a journeyman, nothing wrong with that, but journey men are not barely NBA players, they just aren't good enough for teams to commit long term to or not good enough for teams to fight to keep if they are making a trade. That's still a solid enough player, not sure why that should be a diss, and Mcclung is nothing close to that, so bringing Lin into the thread as a comparison is still odd.
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Post#92 » by tamaraw08 » Fri Oct 7, 2022 5:26 pm

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bradybunch wrote:There's no way he's not good enough to make an NBA roster, but if they keep black balling him, I hope there's a league where he can showcase his talent and make millions.


Ok, I have to ask. Why are you using the term black balling? What makes you think that McClung was black balled instead of simply losing out to competition? The term has a specific meaning and it seems that you're wildly stretching that meaning.


How did he lose out to a better player? They cut him and signed Ty Jerome. He never competed against Ty Jerome.

Mac looked great and if it was based on merit, he deserves a roster spot.

Mac performed in the G League, Summer, and was fantastic in their last preseason game.

As a matter of fact, he looked so good that they probably said "oh sh**, cut him before he keeps proving doubters wrong and our opportunity for him will be proven fraudulent."

They brought him in. He performed. They cut him immediately after showcasing his evident skills.

OOPS!

I've seen Mac play he looks good but I truly believe that he is more like 5'11 than 6-2 which his listed height. You mentioned Ty Jerome who is listed at 6-5= he can then bother shots from other shooters in the perimeter.
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In essence, If Mac is 6-5, he would have a decent contract by now.
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Post#93 » by SelfishPlayer » Fri Oct 7, 2022 6:01 pm

og15 wrote:
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og15 wrote:Since when did pension become the defining line for whether a player was "barely and NBA player". Quite the odd take here, but to each their own :lol: :lol:


Journeyman at best..

Yea, certainly a journeyman, nothing wrong with that, but journey men are not barely NBA players, they just aren't good enough for teams to commit long term too or not good enough for teams to fight to keep if they are making a trade. That's still a solid enough player, not sure why that should be a diss, and Mcclung is nothing close to that, so bringing Lin into the thread as a comparison is still odd.


Lin is proven to be what he is, but in my opinion McClung is the same guy if an organization decides to give him a green light and instill confidence in him. Lin never averaged as many points as a full time starter in Houston as he did in NY under D'Antoni the season prior to the Rockets acquiring him with a unique contract. Lin has been treated uniquely. He had the one coach in the NBA who understood how to feature the scoring ball handler to make them appear better than they would be for any other franchise in NBA history, just look at what he did for Nash and Harden. Then he was acquired by the Rockets with a contract that has never before been offered. Why? He certainly never produced like people hoped. He also got another decent contract from Brooklyn, why? He has been fortunate to have three organizations force him down our throats. Why? He wasn't even good enough to play in the NBA in his 30's!!!! He will not receive a full NBA pension. He's like a worse "Skip to my Lou" Rafer Alston who also made a big name for himself in New York City...
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Post#94 » by CobraCommander » Fri Oct 7, 2022 6:43 pm

lambchop wrote:
michaelm wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:Like steph and poole

Perhaps why they want a pass first PG if they are to have another one.


Yep, imagine someone like 2020 Rondo on this team getting 10-12 minutes every other game. Poole, Steph and Klay would have it even easier.

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Post#95 » by alebaba » Fri Oct 7, 2022 7:10 pm

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Journeyman at best..

Yea, certainly a journeyman, nothing wrong with that, but journey men are not barely NBA players, they just aren't good enough for teams to commit long term too or not good enough for teams to fight to keep if they are making a trade. That's still a solid enough player, not sure why that should be a diss, and Mcclung is nothing close to that, so bringing Lin into the thread as a comparison is still odd.


Lin is proven to be what he is, but in my opinion McClung is the same guy if an organization decides to give him a green light and instill confidence in him. Lin never averaged as many points as a full time starter in Houston as he did in NY under D'Antoni the season prior to the Rockets acquiring him with a unique contract. Lin has been treated uniquely. He had the one coach in the NBA who understood how to feature the scoring ball handler to make them appear better than they would be for any other franchise in NBA history, just look at what he did for Nash and Harden. Then he was acquired by the Rockets with a contract that has never before been offered. Why? He certainly never produced like people hoped. He also got another decent contract from Brooklyn, why? He has been fortunate to have three organizations force him down our throats. Why? He wasn't even good enough to play in the NBA in his 30's!!!! He will not receive a full NBA pension. He's like a worse "Skip to my Lou" Rafer Alston who also made a big name for himself in New York City...



Jeremy lin average 14 points in Brooklyn, and was going to have a break out season for them until he got injured. What are you even talking about? :banghead:

McClung is no where on Lin's level.
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Post#96 » by SelfishPlayer » Fri Oct 7, 2022 7:35 pm

alebaba wrote:
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og15 wrote:Yea, certainly a journeyman, nothing wrong with that, but journey men are not barely NBA players, they just aren't good enough for teams to commit long term too or not good enough for teams to fight to keep if they are making a trade. That's still a solid enough player, not sure why that should be a diss, and Mcclung is nothing close to that, so bringing Lin into the thread as a comparison is still odd.


Lin is proven to be what he is, but in my opinion McClung is the same guy if an organization decides to give him a green light and instill confidence in him. Lin never averaged as many points as a full time starter in Houston as he did in NY under D'Antoni the season prior to the Rockets acquiring him with a unique contract. Lin has been treated uniquely. He had the one coach in the NBA who understood how to feature the scoring ball handler to make them appear better than they would be for any other franchise in NBA history, just look at what he did for Nash and Harden. Then he was acquired by the Rockets with a contract that has never before been offered. Why? He certainly never produced like people hoped. He also got another decent contract from Brooklyn, why? He has been fortunate to have three organizations force him down our throats. Why? He wasn't even good enough to play in the NBA in his 30's!!!! He will not receive a full NBA pension. He's like a worse "Skip to my Lou" Rafer Alston who also made a big name for himself in New York City...



Jeremy lin average 14 points in Brooklyn, and was going to have a break out season for them until he got injured. What are you even talking about? :banghead:

McClung is no where on Lin's level.


Cool, his two highest scoring seasons came where he played fewer than a half season worth of games. Where he played full seasons his average was lower. I wonder why... In 2004-5 Ron Artest averaged 24.6 ppg!!!!!
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Post#97 » by FlyingArrow » Fri Oct 7, 2022 7:39 pm

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alebaba wrote:
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Lin is proven to be what he is, but in my opinion McClung is the same guy if an organization decides to give him a green light and instill confidence in him. Lin never averaged as many points as a full time starter in Houston as he did in NY under D'Antoni the season prior to the Rockets acquiring him with a unique contract. Lin has been treated uniquely. He had the one coach in the NBA who understood how to feature the scoring ball handler to make them appear better than they would be for any other franchise in NBA history, just look at what he did for Nash and Harden. Then he was acquired by the Rockets with a contract that has never before been offered. Why? He certainly never produced like people hoped. He also got another decent contract from Brooklyn, why? He has been fortunate to have three organizations force him down our throats. Why? He wasn't even good enough to play in the NBA in his 30's!!!! He will not receive a full NBA pension. He's like a worse "Skip to my Lou" Rafer Alston who also made a big name for himself in New York City...



Jeremy lin average 14 points in Brooklyn, and was going to have a break out season for them until he got injured. What are you even talking about? :banghead:

McClung is no where on Lin's level.


Cool, his two highest scoring seasons came where he played fewer than a half season worth of games. Where he played full seasons his average was lower. I wonder why... In 2004-5 Ron Artest averaged 24.6 ppg!!!!!


And in 1961-62, Wilt Chamberlain averaged 50.4 ppg!!!!!
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Post#98 » by SelfishPlayer » Fri Oct 7, 2022 8:29 pm

If McClung started and had a ton of pick and roll plays called for him like a D'Antoni offense, he would produce as well as Jeremy Lin. That will probably never happen because the NBA usually doesn't devote so many resources to making a poor NBA talent look better than what they are. Lin was fortunate to have this done for him and it built his confidence, but he was exposed in Houston after they comitted to him.
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Post#99 » by floppymoose » Fri Oct 7, 2022 11:22 pm

McClung absolutely belongs on an nba roster. He will get called up somewhere and have a nice season as a 10th nan.
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Post#100 » by Harry Garris » Sat Oct 8, 2022 12:53 am

Texas Chuck wrote:He's not blackballed lol. Again, you guys seem to have no idea how many guards there are who aren't in the NBA who can score against fringe NBA players. Every single year John Jenkins looks amazing in these games and then..... He can't do this against legit NBA defenders and he likely can't defend at an NBA level.

Teams don't just cut guys who can play. Especially not entertaining athletic pretty boy white dudes.


I think it just goes to show that the bar for even making a NBA roster spot is pretty high. Especially if you're a guard. There's a little bit more leeway if you're a 6'7 athletic wing who can hit 3s, but if you want to make the league as a small guard like Mac McClung is you need to be a legitimately great player. Which he is not.
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