OT: AI has advanced to the point of overtaking sports journalism

[dhsilv2]

Well, if we're talking about training an AI just to summarize box scores I think that can be done effectively. Then again, you can already make templates and do roughly that anyway. ___ scored ___ points in a game against ___. I

I'm just trying to drive home the point that being correct and accurate is the worst thing AI can do. For movies, art, songs, etc... there is amazing potential. But news? Reporting? Getting that from an AI that won't even know when it's lying would be a big issue potentially. So any "reporting" done by AI would require strict parameters and strict data input to the point that I'm not sure why you'd bother using an AI anyway.

Think about what CGI did to models and hand animation in movies. It's this.. but all over. Eventually you will be able to have books written for you instantly, then entire movies and video games custom made for you.

The AI could breakdown for you that a Curry 3 off a back door cut trigged a 10-0 run. That Draymond challenged 4 critical shots at the rim down the run. That the warriors broke the jazz down using pick and rolls in the 4th quarter against this two man lineup. It could with incredible detail explain the high leverage plays to fans reading. I get that scraping the web for facts could be a challenge, but here you can give the AI the full details of watching a game with a higher level of detail than any human could process. From there you could plug in the post game interviews if you needed quotes from players or coaches to add color or even shape how the AI uses that detail and data.

Well I can go back and forth a bit more on this, but all I can really say in regard to Chat GPT, or Midjourney, or Stable Diffusion, is that they are not even trained to work that way. They specifically don't tend to copy, they are given data, this goes into the neural net, and then the output is based on AI's understanding and interpretation of that data. The problem is it's childlike in many ways in terms of know what's what. So in the art I generate for example, it routinely does things like fail to place earrings on ears, or blends hair with ears, or puts weird inexplicable objects here or there, or gives a hand 7 deformed fingers, etc...

So you imagine it doing that with something specific like a play Curry runs at a specific point and you actually get the myriad of ways it could incorrectly describe it.

I wouldn't expect it to get it right from the get go. But this is all reasonable given time and enough machine learning.

[jezzerinho]

The biggest problem is that AI can't really differentiate reality from fiction. It produces code that looks right, but often doesn't work. It states things that sound correct, but often are not. AI is good at superficially making things seem right.

I have been messing around with AI art (link in sig) and AI can do a remarkable job of a lot of things. However, the amount of time I have to spend trying to keep hands out of pictures (it can't draw hands, which also shows you how it works, it's not actually copying) or fix all these little things that goes wrong is considerable.

AI will only improve, but at its core it's basically trying to fool us into thinking it can do things it really can't. In my case AI can't paint for instance, it just looks like its painting. In terms of reporting on basketball or what ever, it can sound like it's reporting on basketball but I'm not even sure how you'd train an AI to do an accurate live report based on up to the minute facts.

Edit: It will be great for nefarious means though of course. Fake blogs, fake social media accounts, fake news reports, etc... They will all seem superficially correct and can be set up to deliberately spread propaganda.

Well, you can plug in literally every play, what play was run, shot distance, if it was open, etc...that's already data teams have for every single game. AI would actually have a HUGE advantage on a normal journalist as it can instantly have infinitely better and more data on what happened. From there you teach it what details are meaningful to the level of fan you want to reach. And boom, you have a vastly better writer.

It's not the sports journo you should worry about. It's the Head Coach. AI will likely replace human coaches within a pretty short timeframe.

[magee]

Whole AI is worthless until they add "finna" correctly into their article titles and main points.

[dhsilv2]

The biggest problem is that AI can't really differentiate reality from fiction. It produces code that looks right, but often doesn't work. It states things that sound correct, but often are not. AI is good at superficially making things seem right.

I have been messing around with AI art (link in sig) and AI can do a remarkable job of a lot of things. However, the amount of time I have to spend trying to keep hands out of pictures (it can't draw hands, which also shows you how it works, it's not actually copying) or fix all these little things that goes wrong is considerable.

AI will only improve, but at its core it's basically trying to fool us into thinking it can do things it really can't. In my case AI can't paint for instance, it just looks like its painting. In terms of reporting on basketball or what ever, it can sound like it's reporting on basketball but I'm not even sure how you'd train an AI to do an accurate live report based on up to the minute facts.

Edit: It will be great for nefarious means though of course. Fake blogs, fake social media accounts, fake news reports, etc... They will all seem superficially correct and can be set up to deliberately spread propaganda.

Well, you can plug in literally every play, what play was run, shot distance, if it was open, etc...that's already data teams have for every single game. AI would actually have a HUGE advantage on a normal journalist as it can instantly have infinitely better and more data on what happened. From there you teach it what details are meaningful to the level of fan you want to reach. And boom, you have a vastly better writer.

It's not the sports journo you should worry about. It's the Head Coach. AI will likely replace human coaches within a pretty short timeframe.

I don't follow this one. The coach's job is to manage the trainers, work with the scouts, the assistant coaches who have roles from strategy to actually being data analysts to put together things that an AI would use effectively. They work with the GM on roster construction. They work as a face to the media and fans. They manage player ego. Setup practice times and scheduling.

Oh and about 1% of their time and job involves some stuff they do on the court during games...

[Profound23]

I am not AI. I don't know where you are getting this information from.

[MrBigShot]

Impressive as hell, but in essence it's just victor good, tank for victor. Good sports journalism requires some critical thinking and thought that an AI can't quite do yet. An AI also has no personality. Personality and style are in large part why the biggest sports journalists are as successful as they are.

[maxwellcu]

AI has *not* solved Chess or Go, lol. If you think this is true, then you don't know what it means for a game to be solved.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Whole AI is worthless until they add "finna" correctly into their article titles and main points.

An AI with proper finna usage becomes a respectable realgm user in this day and age my friend.

[amcoolio]

Whole AI is worthless until they add "finna" correctly into their article titles and main points.

An AI with proper finna usage becomes a respectable realgm user in this day and age my friend.

From ChatGPT:

The Knicks have been bad for a decade
Finna make the fans go berserk
They've been losing games with ease
Finna drive them all insane

They've got no hope, no drive
Finna leave the fans feeling hollow
Their star players just don't thrive
Finna make their hopes wallow

But still the fans hold on tight
Finna cheer them on through thick and thin
They wear their orange and blue with pride
Finna hope that they'll win

But every season ends in defeat
Finna leave the fans feeling down
They'll keep on cheering, though, can't be beat
Finna hope for a turnaround

So here's to the Knicks, a team so bad
Finna make the fans scream and shout
But still they'll love them, it's not so sad
Finna hope that they'll turn it all around.

I think it overdid it (I asked it to write a poem about the Knicks struggles and include the slang word "finna")

[newsletter]

OK but is it advanced enough to talk about practice? Not a game, not a game, not a game...practice.

Here you go sir:

Me:
Write a funny poem about practice as if you were Allen Iverson

GPT Chat:
I'm Allen Iverson and I have to say
Practice? Man, that just ain't my way
I'd rather be on the court getting my game on
Than running drills and feeling like a pawn

My coach may yell and say I need to work
But I'll just shoot some jumpers and go berserk
I may not be the best at running plays
But on the court, I'm always in the fray

So if you want to see me shine
Just put me in the game and watch me dine
I'll cross my man and hit the jumper
And send the crowd into a thundering chorus

Practice? Ha, I'll leave that to the others
I'm Allen Iverson and I'm a baller like no other