WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers

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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#81 » by zshawn10 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:19 pm

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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#82 » by RRR3 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:20 pm

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nzahir wrote:Kuzma was meh with us, his best attributes were being a decent defender who was versatile and a good rebounder

What can Rui do better than Kuzma?

Nothing, he's a worse version of Kuzma and addresses nothing the Lakers need. "But but he's 6'8" yeah and he's an awful defender so who cares?


When did the Lakers hurt you bro? When we beat you for the chip?

How is that Lowry signing treating you?

Your team is in 12th place you are hurting no one. Hachimura is bad, I'm not "hating", he's factually bad at being a positive player in the NBA.
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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#83 » by GSWFan1994 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:21 pm

Lakers got Hachimura for basically nothing... Nunn is almost out of the league by this point, very injury prone.

That being said, I think many will be disappointed by Hachimura... reading the thread, I get the impression people expect him to be a totally different player than the perception.

He's already 25 and a career 13/5/1... and with lots of opportunities to get minutes in Washington. I mean, he has underachieved so far in the NBA.

He will be a rotation player in LA, but I don't see him playing in crunch time.
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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#84 » by iggymcfrack » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:22 pm

This seems so pointless. The Lakers are moving 3 second rounders plus decreasing their flexibility to acquire a below average rotation player that doesn’t fit there at all. Why would they want a midrange scorer that doesn’t shoot as well from outside as Nunn and plays awful D? To cover bench scoring when LeBron or Westbrook is hurt?
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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#85 » by KyRo23 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:22 pm

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mademan wrote:Kuzma was a valuable role player playing beside Lebron and AD. And i think Rui is better. Its a low risk-mid high reward deal for the Lakers.

Kuzma was meh with us, his best attributes were being a decent defender who was versatile and a good rebounder

What can Rui do better than Kuzma?

Nothing, he's a worse version of Kuzma and addresses nothing the Lakers need. "But but he's 6'8" yeah and he's an awful defender so who cares?


Again... what did Nunn provide that LA needed? Rui is even shooting the 3 better than Nunn this season :lol:

I suppose you don't want a lot of Laker games, but an actual 6'8" player who can come off the bench and score is huge. When LeBron goes to the bench you either have to pick JTA or a 6'4" guard to step on in. Even if he isn't a good defender, LA has been putting guys in that wing spot who aren't good defenders, can't score and are undersized. This helps whether you like it or not.
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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#86 » by JB2 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:23 pm

3 2nds is a lot but so is having 6 other guards who play the same spot(s) as Nunn. Rui is a true forward with athletic ability and with upside still. Good move for LA.
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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#87 » by Up-And-Coming » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:24 pm

Even though the 3 seconds would probably be pretty good (maybe Chicago’s 23 second and our 23 second + another) I like this deal. It shortens our small guard logjam and brings in a young forward.

The youth movement this season has been better than the way past his prime movement last year. Rui needs a change in scenery and I believe Pelinka has been leaning on our scouting department for advice on some of the younger players we acquired like Malik, Lonnie, Troy Brown, Bryant (obviously as we drafted him) who have all been improved in their roles and now hopefully the same will be said for Rui. I liked him out of the draft but just felt like his transition to the NBA and the culture shock wasn’t smooth.
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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#88 » by jehosafats » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:24 pm

LAL could use someone like Terry Rozier. When healthy he's a spark plug, doesn't need the ball in his hands, plus he can defend pretty well. He would be a huge pickup for them if they could game it out.
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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#89 » by mademan » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:25 pm

iggymcfrack wrote:This seems so pointless. The Lakers are moving 3 second rounders plus decreasing their flexibility to acquire a below average rotation player that doesn’t fit there at all. Why would they want a midrange scorer that doesn’t shoot as well from outside as Nunn and plays awful D? To cover bench scoring when LeBron or Westbrook is hurt?


Lakers bought the 35th overall pick a year ago for cash. 2nd rounders are generally not very valuable. Lakers probably think they can buy these picks back
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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#90 » by RRR3 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:25 pm

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nzahir wrote:Kuzma was meh with us, his best attributes were being a decent defender who was versatile and a good rebounder

What can Rui do better than Kuzma?

Nothing, he's a worse version of Kuzma and addresses nothing the Lakers need. "But but he's 6'8" yeah and he's an awful defender so who cares?


Again... what did Nunn provide that LA needed? Rui is even shooting the 3 better than Nunn this season :lol:

I suppose you don't want a lot of Laker games, but an actual 6'8" player who can come off the bench and score is huge. When LeBron goes to the bench you either have to pick JTA or a 6'4" guard to step on in. Even if he isn't a good defender, LA has been putting guys in that wing spot who aren't good defenders, can't score and are undersized. This helps whether you like it or not.

Nunn reeks (although he was far better before his injury), but you also gave up 3 2nds for a bad player. Very decent chance the Wizards get a player more useful than Rui with one of those seconds.
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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#91 » by whatisacenter » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:26 pm

good cheap pickup for the Lakers.
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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#92 » by KyRo23 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:26 pm

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RRR3 wrote:Nothing, he's a worse version of Kuzma and addresses nothing the Lakers need. "But but he's 6'8" yeah and he's an awful defender so who cares?


Again... what did Nunn provide that LA needed? Rui is even shooting the 3 better than Nunn this season :lol:

I suppose you don't want a lot of Laker games, but an actual 6'8" player who can come off the bench and score is huge. When LeBron goes to the bench you either have to pick JTA or a 6'4" guard to step on in. Even if he isn't a good defender, LA has been putting guys in that wing spot who aren't good defenders, can't score and are undersized. This helps whether you like it or not.

Nunn reeks (although he was far better before his injury), but you also gave up 3 2nds for a bad player. Very decent chance the Wizards get a player more useful than Rui with one of those seconds.


mademan wrote:
iggymcfrack wrote:This seems so pointless. The Lakers are moving 3 second rounders plus decreasing their flexibility to acquire a below average rotation player that doesn’t fit there at all. Why would they want a midrange scorer that doesn’t shoot as well from outside as Nunn and plays awful D? To cover bench scoring when LeBron or Westbrook is hurt?


Lakers bought the 35th overall pick a year ago for cash. 2nd rounders are generally not very valuable. Lakers probably think they can buy these picks back


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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#93 » by vxmike » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:28 pm

iggymcfrack wrote:This seems so pointless. The Lakers are moving 3 second rounders plus decreasing their flexibility to acquire a below average rotation player that doesn’t fit there at all. Why would they want a midrange scorer that doesn’t shoot as well from outside as Nunn and plays awful D? To cover bench scoring when LeBron or Westbrook is hurt?


Yeah not following this. Does Rui help them make the playoffs this year? Doubtful.

Also he has a fairly high cap hold next season so if they’re going for Kyrie they will have to decline his rights.
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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#94 » by Raps in 4 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:29 pm

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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#95 » by JujitsuFlip » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:29 pm

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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#96 » by DS17 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:31 pm

as much as i like this trade, that CHI 2nd was basically a late first.. damn it :P
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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#97 » by KokoKaizer » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:31 pm

That's a good deal for the Lakers but it won't make them that much better

A much needed wing with size is a bonus for them but they will have to pay him soon ...
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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#98 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:32 pm

Lakers desperately needed another big, athletic forward. Nice that Rui can score and probably will thrive in the Lakers fast pace, and with excellent playmakers getting him the ball. Love the trade for the Lakers. Fills a huge hole. Now if Ham can just get him to play a little better defense.
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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#99 » by Buckeye-NBAFan » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:32 pm

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Obviously they intend to extend him, then dump his salary + 2nd rounders for another bench scrub they'll extend then salary dump + even more 2nds for another bench scrub and so on.
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Re: WOJ BOMB: Hachimura to Lakers 

Post#100 » by PistolPeteJR » Mon Jan 23, 2023 6:33 pm

Hopefully Ham and the vets can help this guy focus on improving his defense quickly. If he can defend the way Kuz was defending in '21, that's a win.

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