What the HELL was the NBA/Silver thinking involving Karl Malone so much in all-star weekend?

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Re: What the HELL was the NBA/Silver thinking involving Karl Malone so much in all-star weekend? 

Post#81 » by Kingdibs19 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:26 pm

Fo-Real wrote:LOL at the VERY LATE outrage!! This has been FACT for almost 40 years. Never condone what he did, he was despicable for how he basically abandoned them but for you people who freak out over **** like this, you should not look up what rock stars, actors, and famous people of that era FACTUALLY got caught doing with documented underage girls and boys and a good number of todays famed idiots. Your whole fame structure would be destroyed. Names the likes of Elvis, Bowie, Steven Tyler. Stars like Don Johnson, Woody Allen etc, the list is huge. Not condoning, just laughing at the outrage when there are CRAZY stories about SCORES of these people.


Rob Lowe had like 3 new roles every year and was a big part of Parks and Rec.

Elvis just had a new movie made glorifying him.

Roman Polanski is still making movies and winning awards for them.

And yah Aerosmith, RollingStones, Queen, Kiss etc all slept with groupies of all ages back then and they’re all still celebrated today. It’s even in the lyrics in some of their songs.

Drake & Tyga got with Kylie when she was 16. The Game was with some 17 year old IG model.
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Re: What the HELL was the NBA/Silver thinking involving Karl Malone so much in all-star weekend? 

Post#82 » by Wolfgang630 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:30 pm

bdp31770 wrote:I don't understand why they didn't have Stockton do those events instead, maybe they asked and he didn't want to, I don't know.

Stockton probably knew people were going to **** all over him and didn’t want any of it.
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Re: What the HELL was the NBA/Silver thinking involving Karl Malone so much in all-star weekend? 

Post#83 » by TacoLord » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:32 pm

Fo-Real wrote:
MadDogSHWA wrote:
styLesdavis wrote:
What Karl Malone did was 100% wrong but he never RAPED anyone.


Statutory rape is rape.


I AM NOT SAYING WHAT HE DID ISNT HORRIBLE.... in no way, he is horrible so dont try to spin me as giving a pass. But in the 70's, 80, this issue wasnt as heated. Her family actually supported the relationship, witch in those days was common. The age gap is crazy to me but still happened often. One example, Melanie Griffith was 14 and Don Johnson was 22 when they started dating. She moved in with him when she was 15 years old, making him 23!! The **** happened and wasnt focused on in those times. Dont make it right, just makes it fact.


Ok, when the NBA decides to invite Don Johnson to a nationally televised event and give him an award, we can roast them as to why it's wrong.

Do you see how those two things are not the same? You're making a false equivalency, and you look like a pedophile apologist by doing so. Nobody would be talking about Malone if he wasn't honored at NBA Allstar weekend. He should be forgotten and left out of NBA events.
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Re: What the HELL was the NBA/Silver thinking involving Karl Malone so much in all-star weekend? 

Post#84 » by dhsilv2 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:38 pm

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ChuckChilly wrote:Malone played for 19 seasons, so wouldn't that mean the NBA knew about this story for at least 19 years? Why wasn't he "punished" then?


What is the league supposed to do there? There were no legal actions taken against malone. If Malone's lawyers just say "nope he didn't do it" what then? The league can't possibly require a paternity test for their records. They certainly can't take action against a star for not manning up as a father...imagine how many others that might impact. So what then?

Sure today, they can certainly not invite him to events. But not sure what they could have done when he had a contract and was playing.



It’s also the wrong question.

Even if the league could have/should have done something to punish him back in the day and made a mistake not doing so it doesn’t mean they can’t do the right thing now.


Nobody said they can't. I said that doing so when there were contracts involved would have been difficult if not impossible. It doesn't seem anyone involved was super interested in any point in making this into a spectacle outside of seeking child support. So the NBA trying to get into a legal battle here would have just been a terrible decision for EVERYONE involved. Today, they could certainly move on from Malone, but that isn't what I was commenting on here.
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Post#85 » by Wolfgang630 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:39 pm

Nobody even talk about Malone. It’s the NBA who gave him the spotlight. Do some you not understand this before you cry about “cancel culture”? Nobody go on talking about him everyday. The NBA gave the rapist the spotlight and gave him an award knowing what he did.
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Re: What the HELL was the NBA/Silver thinking involving Karl Malone so much in all-star weekend? 

Post#86 » by bdp31770 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:39 pm

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bdp31770 wrote:I don't understand why they didn't have Stockton do those events instead, maybe they asked and he didn't want to, I don't know.

Stockton probably knew people were going to **** all over him and didn’t want any of it.

He must be easily triggered then.
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Post#87 » by QingJames » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:40 pm

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baldur wrote:sick of cancel culture and people who think of themselves as sinless and pure.


He impregnated a child

He statutorily raped and impregnated a child.

He is a rapist and a cretin who abandoned the product of his rape, although tbf if my father raped my mother I wouldn’t want to know him either.
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Re: What the HELL was the NBA/Silver thinking involving Karl Malone so much in all-star weekend? 

Post#88 » by dhsilv2 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:44 pm

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Fo-Real wrote:
MadDogSHWA wrote:
Statutory rape is rape.


I AM NOT SAYING WHAT HE DID ISNT HORRIBLE.... in no way, he is horrible so dont try to spin me as giving a pass. But in the 70's, 80, this issue wasnt as heated. Her family actually supported the relationship, witch in those days was common. The age gap is crazy to me but still happened often. One example, Melanie Griffith was 14 and Don Johnson was 22 when they started dating. She moved in with him when she was 15 years old, making him 23!! The **** happened and wasnt focused on in those times. Dont make it right, just makes it fact.


Ok, when the NBA decides to invite Don Johnson to a nationally televised event and give him an award, we can roast them as to why it's wrong.

Do you see how those two things are not the same? You're making a false equivalency, and you look like a pedophile apologist by doing so. Nobody would be talking about Malone if he wasn't honored at NBA Allstar weekend. He should be forgotten and left out of NBA events.


She got pregnant. She was not a biological child. So please, he was not a pedophile. That doesn't make this less weird or completely socially indefensible, but Malone is very clearly not sexual attracted to a child (someone who has not gone through puberty). I'll let you all decide if it is better or worse to be an actual pedophile but freaking use the words correctly.
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Post#89 » by Plutonashfan » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:47 pm

moderndarwin wrote:Wow so it came out in 98? Even back then I figured he’d get cancelled for something like this. Does anyone remember what happened? How did he continue forward seems like a big thing to keep quiet.

I honestly never heard a peep about it till mentioned on this forum a few years back. Remember the internet was in it's infancy so there was no feeds, etc, so unless it was on the homepage of aol.com you probably wouldn't see. The only good thing to come out of this is at least two of the kids he abandoned inherited his athletic ability and one was in the WNBA and other the NFL. Really shameful what the NBA did and just gross all around.
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Post#90 » by QingJames » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:47 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
TacoLord wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:
I AM NOT SAYING WHAT HE DID ISNT HORRIBLE.... in no way, he is horrible so dont try to spin me as giving a pass. But in the 70's, 80, this issue wasnt as heated. Her family actually supported the relationship, witch in those days was common. The age gap is crazy to me but still happened often. One example, Melanie Griffith was 14 and Don Johnson was 22 when they started dating. She moved in with him when she was 15 years old, making him 23!! The **** happened and wasnt focused on in those times. Dont make it right, just makes it fact.


Ok, when the NBA decides to invite Don Johnson to a nationally televised event and give him an award, we can roast them as to why it's wrong.

Do you see how those two things are not the same? You're making a false equivalency, and you look like a pedophile apologist by doing so. Nobody would be talking about Malone if he wasn't honored at NBA Allstar weekend. He should be forgotten and left out of NBA events.


She got pregnant. She was not a biological child. So please, he was not a pedophile. That doesn't make this less weird or completely socially indefensible, but Malone is very clearly not sexual attracted to a child (someone who has not gone through puberty). I'll let you all decide if it is better or worse to be an actual pedophile but freaking use the words correctly.

12 years old is basically on the absolute cusp of beginning puberty. Yes he is a pedophile, even if the victim he raped had just entered puberty. I really don’t think the pedo apologists can spin this one as hE’s OnLy a HeBeoPhiLe!

He raped a 12 year old little girl. Some of you have no recollection or interaction with 12 year olds and it shows.
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Post#91 » by NyKnicks1714 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:49 pm

I love people who focus all their energy on pointing out that it's technically not pedophilia. He raped a 13 year old. It's so damn weird that your biggest concern is people using the wrong term for it.
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Post#92 » by dhsilv2 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:54 pm

QingJames wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
TacoLord wrote:
Ok, when the NBA decides to invite Don Johnson to a nationally televised event and give him an award, we can roast them as to why it's wrong.

Do you see how those two things are not the same? You're making a false equivalency, and you look like a pedophile apologist by doing so. Nobody would be talking about Malone if he wasn't honored at NBA Allstar weekend. He should be forgotten and left out of NBA events.


She got pregnant. She was not a biological child. So please, he was not a pedophile. That doesn't make this less weird or completely socially indefensible, but Malone is very clearly not sexual attracted to a child (someone who has not gone through puberty). I'll let you all decide if it is better or worse to be an actual pedophile but freaking use the words correctly.

12 years old is basically on the absolute cusp of beginning puberty. Yes he is a pedophile, even if the victim he raped had just entered puberty. I really don’t think the pedo apologists can spin this one as hE’s OnLy a HeBeoPhiLe!

He raped a 12 year old little girl. Some of you have no recollection or interaction with 12 year olds and it shows.


You're wrong.
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Post#93 » by Fo-Real » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:54 pm

TacoLord wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:
MadDogSHWA wrote:
Statutory rape is rape.


I AM NOT SAYING WHAT HE DID ISNT HORRIBLE.... in no way, he is horrible so dont try to spin me as giving a pass. But in the 70's, 80, this issue wasnt as heated. Her family actually supported the relationship, witch in those days was common. The age gap is crazy to me but still happened often. One example, Melanie Griffith was 14 and Don Johnson was 22 when they started dating. She moved in with him when she was 15 years old, making him 23!! The **** happened and wasnt focused on in those times. Dont make it right, just makes it fact.


Ok, when the NBA decides to invite Don Johnson to a nationally televised event and give him an award, we can roast them as to why it's wrong.

Do you see how those two things are not the same? You're making a false equivalency, and you look like a pedophile apologist by doing so. Nobody would be talking about Malone if he wasn't honored at NBA Allstar weekend. He should be forgotten and left out of NBA events.


I see porn legend, moral high ground a paramount. It is what it is. If you gleaned "pedo apologist " out of that, then your further valuations of my moral fiber are idiotic to me. You do you though, be well.
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Post#94 » by -Luke- » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:58 pm

ReddoverKobe wrote:
God Squad wrote:Should've had Stockton as the "Representative" and dunk judge.


You get a child rapist or an anti vaxx nut job.

Which is on the same level for the woke crowd nowadays. I understand.

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Post#95 » by PedroFlu » Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:01 pm

It looked to me as an attempt to restore his image.

And honestly, there's a system in place for this stuff. It's called legal procedure and prison.

IMO he shouldn't pay eternally for what he did. We don't even know how is his relationship with his son and the mother right now. What if the guy reconciled? Would it be suddenly be ok? Is this for us to judge?

It is not the NBA's job to punish him. Also it is not ours. Recognizing his huge feats in the league in the city he played is not equal to absolving him for crimes, because it's not the NBA job to do it. And no, they are not standing for rape by doing this. And no one celebrating Karls Malones NBA feats is doing it.

It is indeed annoying how people suddenly think they have the right to judge and punish people they don't even know for stuff they also don't know in detail. Stupid moralism, not different from what churches do. Disregarding Malone can be an individual decision, but should not be an NBA decision.
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Post#96 » by HanzGruber » Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:07 pm

baldur wrote:sick of cancel culture and people who think of themselves as sinless and pure.

lol being a p*do isnt "cancel culture" he should have been stoned infront of city hall
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Post#97 » by ChuckChilly » Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:16 pm

HanzGruber wrote:
baldur wrote:sick of cancel culture and people who think of themselves as sinless and pure.

lol being a p*do isnt "cancel culture" he should have been stoned infront of city hall


Slippery slope here. There are countless stories of baby sitters around Malone's age (mostly female) molesting little boys. Should they be stoned as well?
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Post#98 » by NBA Sheady » Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:17 pm

Fo-Real wrote:dont try to spin me as giving a pass.


Oh ok, I'll keep reading and keep an open mind.


Fo-Real wrote:But in the 70's, 80, this issue wasnt as heated. Her family actually supported the relationship, witch in those days was common. The age gap is crazy to me but still happened often. One example, Melanie Griffith was 14 and Don Johnson was 22 when they started dating. She moved in with him when she was 15 years old, making him 23!! The **** happened and wasnt focused on in those times. Dont make it right, just makes it fact.


This is you justifying the behavior. This is rape culture.
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Post#99 » by ReddoverKobe » Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:19 pm

ChuckChilly wrote:
HanzGruber wrote:
baldur wrote:sick of cancel culture and people who think of themselves as sinless and pure.

lol being a p*do isnt "cancel culture" he should have been stoned infront of city hall


Slippery slope here. There are countless stories of baby sitters around Malone's age (mostly female) molesting little boys. Should they be stoned as well?


Are you honestly asking if adults raping children should get people punished?
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Post#100 » by ChuckChilly » Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:24 pm

ReddoverKobe wrote:
ChuckChilly wrote:
HanzGruber wrote:lol being a p*do isnt "cancel culture" he should have been stoned infront of city hall


Slippery slope here. There are countless stories of baby sitters around Malone's age (mostly female) molesting little boys. Should they be stoned as well?


Are you honestly asking if adults raping children should get people punished?


Uhhh, being stoned means being executed. If thats the proper punishment, then so be it. I was just bringing up the fact that what happened between Malone and the girl is unfortunately not a one off situation in the world. If all statutory rapist should be executed, then there will be a lot of executions. When I was in high school there was always a handful of seniors (17-18) that would get expelled or arrested for messing around with the freshmen (14-15).

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