What kind of basketball is this nonsense?

[Ryoga Hibiki]

Hand checking and moving screens would be beneficial.

not sure what's the great thing about hand checking that make people wish it could come back.
illegal screens and carrying, on the other hand, are just unfair advantages you give to offensive players against the spirit of the game.

[Ryoga Hibiki]

Best solution to the threes is gut gud at twos.

Seriously these shooters put in the extra work to shoot so well at a high rate with little space.

Midrange can comeback. Just need someone to start it putting in that extra work on the midrange game.

Nah, that's the exact problem: Why would anyone put extra work on the midrange game? (Or into the post game?)

There is a shot that is fairly easy to take w/ the current rules and that awards you 3 points. Why would anyone concentrate on any form of a less efficient shot? It would be like a high jump athlete concentrating on the straddle instead of the Fosbury flop...

on ball players do it, just you don't want average players taking inefficient shots.

[toooskies]

If you revert the zone defense rules so that you always have to guard a man instead of space, you'll see a lot more driving lanes to the rim and corner 3s go away.

[Ryoga Hibiki]

If you revert the zone defense rules so that you always have to guard a man instead of space, you'll see a lot more driving lanes to the rim and corner 3s go away.

I would seriously stop watching the NBA if that BS would come back.
Whoever wants that just doesn't remember how horrible NBA offenses were at the time.
The Jazz offense in the finals was the most ridiculous gimmicky thing I have ever seen.

[Zvaart]

I prefer the balls in hands or being fought over with passion, skill and persistence.

it seems you are describing some bedroom fantasies, dude

i like it.

[Silvie Lysandra]

It's weird that people are jumping to drastic solutions like changing the court as opposed to just dialing back "FoM" officiating and then see what happens.

Officiating has been *WILDLY* slanted towards offense at least since 2012, and the league upped the ante about 3 times after that before sort of dialing it back this year, but still not to say, 2008 levels of officating.

Allow handchecking (given that zone defense is legal now, this alone might do it seeing that while help/team defense is much better, there's a lot less emphasis on on-ball defense)
Call moving screens
Call travels the way they did circa 2002 or so
Either remove def 3 seconds or make it 5 seconds
Allow more contact in general

Can we try *that* before getting rid of 3s?

[markjay]

Not teams fault that the scoring system is broken, the only solution is to alter it, when a 3pt shot stops being worth 50% more points than a midrange shot and is instead worth less points, you'll see the needed change in shot distribution.

League avg

2P .546 worth 1.092 pts per shot
3p .360 worth 1.080 pts per shot

FTA is more related with 2PA by good margin. 3P shooting is about space for better 2P offence. So why need spamming 3P shooting at ridiculous rate?

Break down those 2-point shots. 3-point shots, for the most part, aren’t replacing shots at the rim. They are replacing midrange shots. So the 2-point percentage has gradually gone up over time.

[Optms]

Sorry the players are too talented?

Chucking 50+ 3's in a game isn't a sign of talent. That's strategic but hardly what I'd call talent.

Shooting 48% on threes, like the Warriors did, isn't talent? Just luck, I guess.

Going to the free throw line 50 times a game and also making 48 is strategic and takes skill but no one wants to watch that either.

[Larry_Russell]

I am honestly ok with all the three pointers being shot, BUT, the defense need to be allowed to play.

[Hornet Mania]

I am honestly ok with all the three pointers being shot, BUT, the defense need to be allowed to play.

This is where I'm at as well. Let defenses play and call moving screens, then reevaluate if the 3pt shots are still breaking the game.

[JonFromVA]

It doesn't have to be one or another in terms of style, balance is needed.
People can complain all they want, but this will never change unless the scoring system is fixed, teams will always use the best strategy that helps them win. Analytics merely exposed that introducing the 3pt line with 3 points as a reward was a huge mistake, as it is clearly an OP shot, nothing more.

Analytics didn't expose anything, lots of players throughout history would have been very happy to hoist up difficult shots all day if someone actually valued them outside of "no other choice situations".

They weren't valued because shooters weren't good enough to make those kinds of shots at a high enough % and even those that were tended to miss them when defenses keyed on them, fatigue set in, and playoff games were on the line.

Steph Curry changed all that.

Oddly it's to not so different with big man scoring. Certainly dunks/lobs are efficient enough, and some players are good enough at post ups, hook shots, etc, to warrant a very high usage; but defenses adjust and it's hard to sustain that scoring when it matters most.

[MaxZaslofskyJr]

solution: 3 pointers only allowed in last 2/5/x minutes of the quarter/half/game. Adjust your parameters. Players with mid-range and long-range skills now required. Blend the best of multiple eras. Simple.

[GameOver25]

Probably just wishful thinking guys I don't see Adam Silver making changes. The money is still flowing in. There's just too much of a stronghold on everything else in the league other than the product itself. People have settled on spamming 3s, load management, touch fouls. Silver was the worst thing for the league, he is a soft commissioner.

[Miami_Lux]

Why does Spo keep taking timeouts when we are on a run? Did it in the first quarter too

[Chandan]

easy fix: make it worth 2.5 points

[Braggins]

Theyre not going to make any of these stupid changes.

[Duke4life831]

It never ceases to amaze me how some of you dudes cry and complain every single day and yet keep tuning in.

Find something new to watch if you hate it that bad

I think this is what people are doing. NBA ratings are in the toilets, I also dont want to hear that its like that for all sports. The NFL just had the 3rd highest watched TV event of all time in the US earlier this month. The NBA All Star game used to dominate the NFL Pro Bowl. The Pro Bowl which was a flag football contest just blew out NBA All star weekend.

So ya a lot of people are finding something new to watch. And its not all just super old people. I aint young no more, but I aint super old either. Im 32 years old, Im a paying customer for NBA League Pass. This is the last year Im buying league pass because the regular season product has been complete garbage this year.

And you can call it crying, but others will say theyre critiquing a sport they enjoy to watch and hope that changes can be made so they can continue to enjoy it and if not they will just leave.

[garrick]

GSW shooting vs HOU

3P 54 3PA
2P 24 2PA

What laziness offence here. Kerr looks lost this season. League is more effective from 2P than 3P this season and I don’t count FT shooting which more related with 2P.

Right - and then you have morons like JJ Redick trying to convince us it's damn near impossible to get 3s off in this era.

Pretty sure he knows more about it than the average NBA fan since he actually played until recently.

I think it's a bit of both, defenses are more tuned to stop the 3 but at the same time offenses run more plays to free up the 3pt shot.

Back in the 90's without a heavy emphasis on 3's unless you were like Reggie Miller or Glen Rice teams weren't focused on stopping 3 point shooters all that much.

[BrianFitz]

GSW shooting vs HOU

3P 54 3PA
2P 24 2PA

What laziness offence here. Kerr looks lost this season. League is more effective from 2P than 3P this season and I don’t count FT shooting which more related with 2P.

Right - and then you have morons like JJ Redick trying to convince us it's damn near impossible to get 3s off in this era.

Pretty sure he knows more about it than the average NBA fan since he actually played until recently.

I think it's a bit of both, defenses are more tuned to stop the 3 but at the same time offenses run more plays to free up the 3pt shot.

Back in the 90's without a heavy emphasis on 3's unless you were like Reggie Miller or Glen Rice teams weren't focused on stopping 3 point shooters all that much.

Duck Tales. None of what you just wrote is true.

The fact that someone played in the NBA doesn't make them some kind of savant. So Shaq happened to hit the genetic lottery and so now his word on hoops means more than a coach that may not have played in the NBA? Don't be daft.

You just gonna hop on any NBA player that says something and consider it fact? You do realize there are NBA guys that disagree with Redick right?

Redick wants to elevate his contemporaries to make himself seem more relevant.

[garrick]

Right - and then you have morons like JJ Redick trying to convince us it's damn near impossible to get 3s off in this era.

Pretty sure he knows more about it than the average NBA fan since he actually played until recently.

I think it's a bit of both, defenses are more tuned to stop the 3 but at the same time offenses run more plays to free up the 3pt shot.

Back in the 90's without a heavy emphasis on 3's unless you were like Reggie Miller or Glen Rice teams weren't focused on stopping 3 point shooters all that much.

Duck Tales. None of what you just wrote is true.

The fact that someone played in the NBA doesn't make them some kind of savant. So Shaq happened to hit the genetic lottery and so now his word on hoops means more than a coach that may not have played in the NBA? Don't be daft.

You just gonna hop on any NBA player that says something and consider it fact? You do realize there are NBA guys that disagree with Redick right?

Redick wants to elevate his contemporaries to make himself seem more relevant.

Reddick is a smart dude he certainly isn't a moron like you claim. I would certainly listen to his advice over Shaq's because Shaq was never a perimeter player and his offensive game was based on posting up and overpowering people so he wouldn't have a clue about getting open for 3's or how to defend against the 3.

While I don't agree with all of Reddick's takes I do enjoy his insight more than other NBA talking heads like Shaq, Barkley or Reggie Miller but to each their own.