GSW Dynasty is Over.

[DoctorX]

As I mentioned above, Klay's defense in his prime on opposing PGs was a key part of their scheme. But with his age, mileage and injuries, it's obviously no longer an option and they don't have the luxury of that go to strategy anymore.

Poole and Kuminga can definitely get better, but I don't know if it's enough to make a difference in their defense.

Yeah Klay's defense has been a noted issue. Last playoffs we were actually better with him off the court (on/off -11.7), hard to say that but it's true -- we needed GPII's defense more than Klay's offense.

What's weird is that our defense at home has actually been great, really highly rated. I can't quite put together why this is vs. away.

I felt during their first title run they were likable outside of Draymond but after they won the first title they morphed into a bunch of douchebags. It went to their heads, and they also took on Draymond's persona.

Just like the Spurs loved Bruce Bowen's dirty plays and took on his persona. Kicking people in the face, intentionally injuring people, you know you loved it Doc!

https://youtu.be/FAMnMFTeCdg?t=204

I have always said what Bruce did was dirty it's a pathetic card Warriors fans like you hold on to desperately whenever I criticize Draymond. However, I don't recall Duncan, Parker, Manu and the rest of the team trying to be like Bowen and imitate his personality much like the Warriors have with Draymond. I don't recall any of those guys acting like douchebags, showboating, and taunting others as your Warrior do regularly. I can't imagine Duncan acting like Klay or Curry after scoring a bucket lol. Duncan Spurs were a humble group overall while the Warriors title teams are a complete 180 of them personality wise.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Too soon.

Way too soon. A true realgmer would've waited until they were down 8 heading into the fourth quarter of game 3 before starting up this thread.

[Warriorfan]

The Warriors need a Kawhi Leonard like ascension out of nowhere from Kuminga to continue their dynasty. He needs to start if there's any chance of that happening.

They only need to get as good as last year.

Wiggins missed games.
GP2 was not on roster

Did Curry. Klay Green or Looney play worse.

Poole definitely regressed

[DonaldSanders]

I have always said what Bruce did was dirty it's a pathetic card Warriors fans like you hold on to desperately whenever I criticize Draymond. However, I don't recall Duncan, Parker, Manu and the rest of the team trying to be like Bowen and imitate his personality much like the Warriors have with Draymond. I don't recall any of those guys acting like douchebags, showboating, and taunting others as your Warrior do regularly. I can't imagine Duncan acting like Klay or Curry after scoring a bucket lol. Duncan Spurs were a humble group overall while the Warriors title teams are a complete 180 of them personality wise.

Actually this is the first time I've seen you admit what Bowen did was dirty, I'm proud of you! I just think you're being silly claiming Curry and others are "taking on Draymond's persona" when it's quite obvious Steph is mild mannered on the court. Throwing a few shimmys or a night night has nothing to do with Draymond. Draymond is his own crazy violent dude, nobody is emulating him.

[flow]

It's looking that way now.

However, it wouldn't be the first time a team looked dominant going up 2-0 at home only to lose the series. Has happened many times.

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[GregOden]

They're only down 0-2. The same thing happened to the Cavs against a young celtics team in the 2018 ECF. I wouldn't be surprised if Steph goes god mode like lbj did in that series and pushes this series to 7 games. Anything could happen in a game 7, but yea they definitely need Steph to be better than 9 for 21 with 6 assists and 5 TOs. He's capable of dropping multiple 40 pieces. We'll see what happens.

Even if they win all their home games, winning one at Arco seems like a stretch for them given how bad they've been on the road this year and how loud Arco is.

[Warriorfan]

My biggest worry is my expected improvement of the conference as a whole.

Mem Youth
Sac Coaching and youth
Sun KD for whole season
Lakers better chemistry
Min Youth
NO players entering prime Zion gets healthy
OKC Youth

Plus all the teams are trending bigger.

[DusterBuster]

Lmao, nobody is trading Steph. Draymond likely opts out to be with his BFF LeBron and Klay or Poole might get traded. Retool, not rebuild.

Last run for the core trio being together but you can still build a team with Steph.

They may tray to retool, but it won't work. Not saying they should trade Steph, but they can let him know they're going young and blowing it up this summer and he can decide what he wants to do (stay, ask for a trade, retire).

[DonaldSanders]

Lmao, nobody is trading Steph. Draymond likely opts out to be with his BFF LeBron and Klay or Poole might get traded. Retool, not rebuild.

Last run for the core trio being together but you can still build a team with Steph.

They may tray to retool, but it won't work. Not saying they should trade Steph, but they can let him know they're going young and blowing it up this summer and he can decide what he wants to do (stay, ask for a trade, retire).

I don't see how you can make this claim without even knowing what the roster might be. We could make a trade for someone like OG Anunoby and another defensive minded player and be fine. Klay was not a crucial piece in the championship last year, Draymond was important but the Celtics were playing him off the floor at times. I think the roster construction this season is bad, we were thin at big positions last year, but we also had:

6'10 Bjelica
6'8 OPJ

Now we're getting pushed around a bit more inside and have no good backup center. We're platooning Draymond and Looney for the most part, too bad Bjelica wanted to go back to Europe. We got smaller and it's just too small.

Everyone thought the Lakers were dead and Pelinka found a magic trade, it's definitely too soon to proclaim a full rebuild.

[Mk0]

Damn the GB is hot-take city. I am kinda glad my team is trash so I don't have to read some clownshow takes about them.

[CobraCommander]

A team down 0:2 in a playoff series --> Realgm kneejerk thread.

I've seen this every year since I joined this board in 2015.

Exactly....the dynasty IS Steph....as long as Steph is elite the dynasty can’t be over....the only way we can do is go to the future 10 years and see when was the last time Curry won a ring...

[jman3134]

Too soon.

Way too soon. A true realgmer would've waited until they were down 8 heading into the fourth quarter of game 3 before starting up this thread.

Way too on point! Haha

[Tempe]

I don't know if their Dynasty is over, but they are low key an unlikeable team now. When they first came up I think people loved that they played differently, had a nice superstar in Curry, had home grown talent and built their roster up to a Championship team.

Now after years of winning and being in the spotlight, we see how much of a dirty player/petulant child Green is, see how much of a sore loser that Klay is, some people don't like Iggy and how he did Memphis dirty, Poole being a bit of a primadonna, Lamb rape allegations, Kerr's holier-than-thou hypocrisy shtick.

They have that you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain vibe now.

They’ve been unlikeable since KD joined in 2017


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[Raptor_Guy]

RealGM also declared the Spurs dynasty over in 2007..

[homecourtloss]

It’s not over by any means; I have a feeling this thread will get bumped.

[Upperclass]

Warriors are obviously cooked this season, but will win it again next year after getting assets for Poole, Kuminga, Moody and maybe Dray in an S&T

[Cavsfansince84]

RealGM also declared the Spurs dynasty over in 2007..

Well tbf it was over for 5 years until they picked up and developed Kawhi then retooled their whole play style and got one more ring.

[ken6199]

Too soon.

Way too soon. A true realgmer would've waited until they were down 8 heading into the fourth quarter of game 3 before starting up this thread.

Kudos to you for saying down 8 in 4th instead of 3rd. Well thought.

[ken6199]

Lmao, nobody is trading Steph. Draymond likely opts out to be with his BFF LeBron and Klay or Poole might get traded. Retool, not rebuild.

Last run for the core trio being together but you can still build a team with Steph.

They may tray to retool, but it won't work. Not saying they should trade Steph, but they can let him know they're going young and blowing it up this summer and he can decide what he wants to do (stay, ask for a trade, retire).

There is literally zero chance of that happening. Nobody is blowing anything up as long as Curry is healthy and playing still playing at the highest level.

Outside of drafting Wiseman that organization hasn't made too many bad moves, and even that move was as direct result of Curry having a season ending injury. If he his healthy, they will retool and that starts with chopping off the dead wood in Green, then Klay and Poole in that order.

[Edrees]

This might be prime bump material. Warriors are a different team at home. The series is going 7 games

They're only down 0-2. The same thing happened to the Cavs against a young celtics team in the 2018 ECF. I wouldn't be surprised if Steph goes god mode like lbj did in that series and pushes this series to 7 games. Anything could happen in a game 7, but yea they definitely need Steph to be better than 9 for 21 with 6 assists and 5 TOs. He's capable of dropping multiple 40 pieces. We'll see what happens.

Even if they win all their home games, winning one at Arco seems like a stretch for them given how bad they've been on the road this year and how loud Arco is.

All it takes is one injury to a kings player and the warriors could win game 7 on the road. People act like injuries are rare, but they are very common.