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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#81 » by axeman23 » Tue May 9, 2023 2:21 pm

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Marrrcuss wrote:Stephs "Brilliant" is taking 30 shots to get 31 points with horrid clutch time play. That man is CHARMED!!!!

He gets pass his team did not show up
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No he doesn’t get a pass. When was the last time curry got ANY blame? You and the entire media give curry a pass every single time they lose. It’s somehow never his fault. He’s the superstar. Somehow the “get all the praise when they win and get the blame when they lose” never applies to him when it comes to losing. He choked 2 shots. He didn’t call a timeout. He just threw the ball out of bounce. Multiple screw ups by the superstar of the team at the end of the game.


That throwing the ball over his head, HOPING someone was there is what got me. The shots, you make some, you miss some. He got the ball at the end, and just said "Someone else's problem!" I initially thought it must've been deflected, coz it wasnt even in the DIRECTION of a Warrior on-court. But no, he just punched his card, and said "I'm out!" All that with a timeout still available... And yes, it reminded me of the behind the back dribble that went OOB in 2016. Again, "someone else's problem"...
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#82 » by Infinite Llamas » Tue May 9, 2023 2:24 pm

Luke wrote:Can't believe somebody is crapping on Steph Curry, who had a legendary performance.

I'm a Laker fan and I'm happy, but the Warriors are a great, great team, with the best offensive player ever.

It was a fantastic game, with an surprise hero in Lonnie Walker, who had a better 4th quarter than many AT Greats.

Why we can't enjoy the games and the players without crapping too much every time on great players ?


12-30 is a legendary performance now?

Standards have dropped.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#83 » by Pennebaker » Tue May 9, 2023 2:24 pm

I don't know what the stats say but I still fear his shot attempts in the clutch.

You could tell me he's never made a game winner and I would still not want him taking the next game winning attempt against my team.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#84 » by axeman23 » Tue May 9, 2023 2:30 pm

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No matter how much I dislike the Warriors, I DO have a soft spot for Klay, and reactions like this are mostly why, i think... :lol:
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#85 » by timO » Tue May 9, 2023 2:32 pm

Ballerhogger wrote:
Marrrcuss wrote:Stephs "Brilliant" is taking 30 shots to get 31 points with horrid clutch time play. That man is CHARMED!!!!

He gets pass his team did not show up
Read on Twitter
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poole played 10 minutes

what about 9 points in 41 minutes 3/11 by max player Klay

another max player diangelo with 4 on 1/10 in 31 minutes
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#86 » by axeman23 » Tue May 9, 2023 2:33 pm

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Luke wrote:Can't believe somebody is crapping on Steph Curry, who had a legendary performance.

I'm a Laker fan and I'm happy, but the Warriors are a great, great team, with the best offensive player ever.

It was a fantastic game, with an surprise hero in Lonnie Walker, who had a better 4th quarter than many AT Greats.

Why we can't enjoy the games and the players without crapping too much every time on great players ?


Agreed! Steph didn't have a great shooting night, but man the shot quality he generated for his teammates tonight was insane. I'd love to see stat on that... how many wide open layups and dunks did the Warriors get thanks to Curry?

The Lakers are ahead in this series because they are a deeper team, those trades they made have made them very strong. Steph certainly didn't have a Lonnie Walker to help out tonight, Pelinka has built a stronger overall team.

Steph had a triple double including 14 assists on 2 TO, 3 Steals. Great game, Lakers were just better as a team tonight.


Oh, so NOW it's not "LeGM", since the team is living up to/exceeding expectations... :lol: To your larger point, though, I agree. Tonight there was no answer for Lonnie from the Warriors side...
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#87 » by timO » Tue May 9, 2023 2:34 pm

AussieCeltic wrote:Curry definitely needed to get to the rim. He could’ve taken AD off the dribble.

The real story is Klay Thompons horrible last 2 shot selections. Pull up 3’s early in the shot clock with a defender in his grill.


gsw and your celtics do it a lot

take 3s with 18 seconds on the clock
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#88 » by clyde21 » Tue May 9, 2023 2:40 pm

such a whack thread full of people running out of things to criticise Steph about...buncha wannabe Skip Baylesses really
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#89 » by Harry Garris » Tue May 9, 2023 2:55 pm

zimpy27 wrote:Hero ball culture in the NBA is pushed by media maniacs who mythologies Jordan.

Curry usually has 2 guys or at least the best defender on him at the end and he feels he needs to take these shots because people say he should. Same people trash LeBron for passing out at end game situations. But LeBron's passing out is why he doesn't get doubled as much at the end and why he makes so many clutch plays.

Just stop buying the narrative.


Not just mythologizing Jordan, mythologizing bad hero ball execution at the end of games in general. It got to the point where the media was praising stars for trying to win the game by looking off of open teammates and vomiting up absolutely terrible shots over double teams that didn't have a prayer of going in because they had the "intestinal fortitude" to take the shot or whatever.

This is the same kind of mindset that drove me and my friends when we were in high school to talk our dumb friend into touching an electric fence by questioning his manlihood if he didn't do it. It's childish.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#90 » by bovice » Tue May 9, 2023 2:58 pm

you can be critical of Steph and still think he's an all-time great.

I believe Steph is near dame/harden in terms of basketball ability but he's been extremely fortunate in his career to have much more success than those guys have had so he's perceived ranking is higher than it should be.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#91 » by AbeVigodaLive » Tue May 9, 2023 3:03 pm

A bit of everything for everyone in this thread, so I can see this discussion continuing right up to the next game. Have fun internet!!!

- Curry shot poorly... missed some big shots at the end... and made a really stupid TO with 5 seconds left.

... AND...

- Curry went for 31 / 10 / 14 with 3 steals and only 2 TOs. Almost any Warriors successful possession when through him whether it was from him scoring, or on an assist, or on a hockey assist.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#92 » by Sedale Threatt » Tue May 9, 2023 3:03 pm

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zimpy27 wrote:Hero ball culture in the NBA is pushed by media maniacs who mythologies Jordan.

Curry usually has 2 guys or at least the best defender on him at the end and he feels he needs to take these shots because people say he should. Same people trash LeBron for passing out at end game situations. But LeBron's passing out is why he doesn't get doubled as much at the end and why he makes so many clutch plays.

Just stop buying the narrative.


Not just mythologizing Jordan, mythologizing bad hero ball execution at the end of games in general. It got to the point where the media was praising stars for trying to win the game by looking off of open teammates and vomiting up absolutely terrible shots over double teams that didn't have a prayer of going in because they had the "intestinal fortitude" to take the shot or whatever.

This is the same kind of mindset that drove me and my friends when we were in high school to talk our dumb friend into touching an electric fence by questioning his manlihood if he didn't do it. It's childish.


I still remember KG getting raked over the coals for some game when he was in Minnesota for kicking out to a teammate for a wide-open corner 3 on the last position instead of forcing up a terrible shot over multiple defenders. Which is just crazy to me.

I’m very much in the minority among Lakers fans, but watching Kobe for 20 years, hero ball can be absolutely maddening. It’s great when those type of shots are going down, but when they don’t? You want to chuck your TV out the window. Just because you can and do routinely make bad shots doesn’t mean they’re still not bad shots.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#93 » by axeman23 » Tue May 9, 2023 3:04 pm

twyzted wrote:Lebron is 17-38 when trailing by 3 in the last 60 sec… but like always cherry picked stats.



Still a crap-load better than 0%, but "you do you", as they say... :lol: I IMAGINE u thought that was some kind of "burn" on Lebron... :crazy:
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#94 » by axeman23 » Tue May 9, 2023 3:06 pm

KyRo23 wrote:
twyzted wrote:
Sofia wrote:
0% > 45% in this thread


toodles23 wrote:Lmao what? 45% in those situations is a phenomenal number


Chill guys i never said it wasnt great, which it is.
I was refering to the tweet that said he was 17-29…

Shots to take the lead are more impressive than shots down 3 though. Yours is more cherry picked than the 17-29, no offense



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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#95 » by Woodsanity » Tue May 9, 2023 3:08 pm

After Tonight Stephen Curry is now 0-12 on go ahead shots in the last 45 seconds.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#96 » by Harry Garris » Tue May 9, 2023 3:13 pm

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zimpy27 wrote:Hero ball culture in the NBA is pushed by media maniacs who mythologies Jordan.

Curry usually has 2 guys or at least the best defender on him at the end and he feels he needs to take these shots because people say he should. Same people trash LeBron for passing out at end game situations. But LeBron's passing out is why he doesn't get doubled as much at the end and why he makes so many clutch plays.

Just stop buying the narrative.


Not just mythologizing Jordan, mythologizing bad hero ball execution at the end of games in general. It got to the point where the media was praising stars for trying to win the game by looking off of open teammates and vomiting up absolutely terrible shots over double teams that didn't have a prayer of going in because they had the "intestinal fortitude" to take the shot or whatever.

This is the same kind of mindset that drove me and my friends when we were in high school to talk our dumb friend into touching an electric fence by questioning his manlihood if he didn't do it. It's childish.


I still remember KG getting raked over the coals for some game when he was in Minnesota for kicking out to a teammate for a wide-open corner 3 on the last position instead of forcing up a terrible shot over multiple defenders. Which is just crazy to me.

I’m very much in the minority among Lakers fans, but watching Kobe for 20 years, hero ball can be absolutely maddening. It’s great when those type of shots are going down, but when they don’t? You want to chuck your TV out the window. Just because you can and do routinely make bad shots doesn’t mean they’re still not bad shots.


And the reality is, more often than not they do not go in. I don't know what the overall stats are on "bad" heroball shots taken at the end of games, but we do have Kobe's career crunch time stats, and they're pretty bad. Mostly because he took a lot of those shots.

That's when you have to ask yourself, is it better to win the game? Or is better to look cool and lose? For anyone answering the second one it's a bit revealing that you might care more about the story and narrative behind player's legacies than you really do about the game of basketball.
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#97 » by Ballerhogger » Tue May 9, 2023 4:23 pm

timO wrote:
Ballerhogger wrote:
Marrrcuss wrote:Stephs "Brilliant" is taking 30 shots to get 31 points with horrid clutch time play. That man is CHARMED!!!!

He gets pass his team did not show up
Read on Twitter
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poole played 10 minutes

what about 9 points in 41 minutes 3/11 by max player Klay

another max player diangelo with 4 on 1/10 in 31 minutes

You guys making me defend curry . You guys are truly awful ! It’s not 1v5 mistakes happen when you’re the only doing your job .
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#98 » by homecourtloss » Tue May 9, 2023 4:33 pm

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twyzted wrote:Lebron is 17-38 when trailing by 3 in the last 60 sec… but like always cherry picked stats.


That's like 45% lol


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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#99 » by Homer38 » Tue May 9, 2023 4:37 pm

Imagine if LBJ had a similar stats in the clutch......
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Re: Curry last second shots in playoffs 

Post#100 » by homecourtloss » Tue May 9, 2023 4:40 pm

AbeVigodaLive wrote:A bit of everything for everyone in this thread, so I can see this discussion continuing right up to the next game. Have fun internet!!!

- Curry shot poorly... missed some big shots at the end... and made a really stupid TO with 5 seconds left.

... AND...

- Curry went for 31 / 10 / 14 with 3 steals and only 2 TOs. Almost any Warriors successful possession when through him whether it was from him scoring, or on an assist, or on a hockey assist.


How was the FT disparity in this game? Historic?
lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.

lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…

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