Better duo to build around: LeBron/Curry or MJ/Jokic

[CodeBreaker]

MJ on the Serbian team would have won the gold

Not without Pippen on his side

[CobraCommander]

Agree with MJ - no way jokic passed Curry - i love jokic but curry - 73 wins, 2mvps and 4 rings and greatest shooter ever is hard to say anyone with absolutely better than him but mj and lbj

It's close for sure. Curry only has 1 FMVP and has no chance at winning any more. 73 wins was impressive but unfortunately marred by the greatest choke in NBA playoffs history.

Curry really hasn't proven he can do what Jokic did with a Nuggets caliber team. 3 MVP's in far less time also says a lot.

Did Curry not prove it in 2022?

I do agree with the overall point that Jokic can do more with less than Curry

Curry has done everything you can ask for and one of his MVPs is unanimous. Jokic has only one ring - Before Jokic is on the level with Curry he has to pass a lot of other guys. - Jokic could be top 10 and so could Curry - neither was the number 1 pick - they both really proved the world wrong

[LaLover11]

It's close for sure. Curry only has 1 FMVP and has no chance at winning any more. 73 wins was impressive but unfortunately marred by the greatest choke in NBA playoffs history.

Curry really hasn't proven he can do what Jokic did with a Nuggets caliber team. 3 MVP's in far less time also says a lot.

Did Curry not prove it in 2022?

I do agree with the overall point that Jokic can do more with less than Curry

Curry has done everything you can ask for and one of his MVPs is unanimous. Jokic has only one ring - Before Jokic is on the level with Curry he has to pass a lot of other guys. - Jokic could be top 10 and so could Curry - neither was the number 1 pick - they both really proved the world wrong

Bronny will be the next one to prove the world wrong

[CodeBreaker]

Did Curry not prove it in 2022?

I do agree with the overall point that Jokic can do more with less than Curry

Curry has done everything you can ask for and one of his MVPs is unanimous. Jokic has only one ring - Before Jokic is on the level with Curry he has to pass a lot of other guys. - Jokic could be top 10 and so could Curry - neither was the number 1 pick - they both really proved the world wrong

Bronny will be the next one to prove the world wrong

[LaLover11]

Curry has done everything you can ask for and one of his MVPs is unanimous. Jokic has only one ring - Before Jokic is on the level with Curry he has to pass a lot of other guys. - Jokic could be top 10 and so could Curry - neither was the number 1 pick - they both really proved the world wrong

Bronny will be the next one to prove the world wrong

You will see.... Bronny will become a mini Jrue Holiday with the potential to turn into a Jamal Murray if he decides to become more of a scorer instead

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[Ssj16]

It’s easily Lebron and Curry. MJ and Jokic is great fit. But Lebron and Curry would be gamebreaking.

Jokic and MJ would be great finishing games. With Lebron and Curry, I doubt there would be many close games.


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You mean like how they blew out Serbia and France I'm the Olympics?

[Ssj16]

Steph anchored a dynasty and won multiple titles. Revolutioned the game with his shooting. So one of these guys is a tier below but it isn't Curry. Try again.

4 titles and being the bridesmaid for 3 of them isn't as great as you think it is.

As opposed to the guy who is 'a tier ahead' who only won his lone title in a watered down year by beating the Jimmy Butler Heat (With no Tyler Herro to boot). Okay.

I love Steph but 3 out of his 4 titles were diluted if you're gonna go that route with Denver's sole title.

Title number 1: Irving and Kevin Love were injured, leaving Delladova (sp?) as the second best cavs player and Steph did not win FMVP.

Title 2 and 3: One of the most stack teams of all time with KD and KD wins FMVP twice and rightfully so.

Jokic's run to the title included going through Lebron and KD, despite if the finals competition was lacking.

[Benedict_Boozer]

I like the Lebron/Curry pairing better fit wise but prime MJ - hard to not take the team built around him. He had it all offensively and could adapt to really any system or player mix.

[TheNG]

Always bet on the tough ones against the soft ones.

[sikma42]

It’s easily Lebron and Curry. MJ and Jokic is great fit. But Lebron and Curry would be gamebreaking.

Jokic and MJ would be great finishing games. With Lebron and Curry, I doubt there would be many close games.


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You mean like how they blew out Serbia and France I'm the Olympics?

I’m referring to prime Lebron and prime Steph.

Lebron is still really good, but he is nowhere near what he was at his peak.

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[Ben-N1ce]

Tough call. Jokic and Derozan would be pretty good.

[Lalouie]

of the four jokic is the unicorn.

a great passing bigman is so rare there's only been TWO. it is a hub like no other because he literally and for real makes his teammates BETTER

you add that to the goat and it's not fair
and both have a size advantage on lbj/sc

[HMFFL]

Jordan was very good playing off the ball but some of you probably didn't watch him play.
Jordan and Jokic gives me goosebumps.

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[og15]

MJ Jokic is better duo but you can build a better supsrteam around Lebron Curry.

Lebron is pass first and Curry great team player.
You can't add another superstar to MJ Jokic IMO

This isn't true, just add a more defensive superstar then, or add a movement/shooting star. This is only true if we have the assumption that superstar must be a primary offensive option type.

The vast majority of the time, for that third player you are better off with a better fitting All-Star or close type guy than trying to force another superstar in there.

You could add Jrue Holiday with Jokic and MJ, you could add a guy like Shawn Marion as a 3/4, you could add a guy like Sheed as a 4/5. You could add a PG like Billups or Kyle Lowry.

Regardless of which combination you choose, a third primary scorer type guy will take a backseat.

Lebron is not any more pass first than Jokic. He's read and attack first, he's a willing passer and looks to make the right play, but pass first with the idea that he's then not looking for his own a lot isn't realistic. Lebron has taken 17.6 FGA or more every season of his career plus the shot attempts from FT's. He's a scorer who is also a great passer.

His pairings where there was a third superstar don't support the idea that a third guy would do much offensively or that Lebron would greatly decrease his shots and focus on passing. That would not be his game.

[AleksandarN]

MJ Jokic is better duo but you can build a better supsrteam around Lebron Curry.

Lebron is pass first and Curry great team player.
You can't add another superstar to MJ Jokic IMO

This isn't true, just add a more defensive superstar then, or add a movement/shooting star. This is only true if we have the assumption that superstar must be a primary offensive option type.

The vast majority of the time, for that third player you are better off with a better fitting All-Star or close type guy than trying to force another superstar in there.

You could add Jrue Holiday with Jokic and MJ, you could add a guy like Shawn Marion as a 3/4, you could add a guy like Sheed as a 4/5. You could add a PG like Billups or Kyle Lowry.

Regardless of which combination you choose, a third primary scorer type guy will take a backseat.

Lebron is not any more pass first than Jokic. He's read and attack first, he's a willing passer and looks to make the right play, but pass first with the idea that he's then not looking for his own a lot isn't realistic. Lebron has taken 17.6 FGA or more every season of his career plus the shot attempts from FT's. He's a scorer who is also a great passer.

His pairings where there was a third superstar don't support the idea that a third guy would do much offensively or that Lebron would greatly decrease his shots and focus on passing. That would not be his game.

Don’t need a third star. Tell me that doesn’t win multiple championships


Pg: Billups
Sg: MJ
SF: Bruce Bowen
PF: Sheed
C: Jokic.

[Kingdibs19]

Lebron & Curry and it’s not even close.

[LaLover11]

MJ Jokic is better duo but you can build a better supsrteam around Lebron Curry.

Lebron is pass first and Curry great team player.
You can't add another superstar to MJ Jokic IMO

This isn't true, just add a more defensive superstar then, or add a movement/shooting star. This is only true if we have the assumption that superstar must be a primary offensive option type.

The vast majority of the time, for that third player you are better off with a better fitting All-Star or close type guy than trying to force another superstar in there.

You could add Jrue Holiday with Jokic and MJ, you could add a guy like Shawn Marion as a 3/4, you could add a guy like Sheed as a 4/5. You could add a PG like Billups or Kyle Lowry.

Regardless of which combination you choose, a third primary scorer type guy will take a backseat.

Lebron is not any more pass first than Jokic. He's read and attack first, he's a willing passer and looks to make the right play, but pass first with the idea that he's then not looking for his own a lot isn't realistic. Lebron has taken 17.6 FGA or more every season of his career plus the shot attempts from FT's. He's a scorer who is also a great passer.

His pairings where there was a third superstar don't support the idea that a third guy would do much offensively or that Lebron would greatly decrease his shots and focus on passing. That would not be his game.

Don’t need a third star. Tell me that doesn’t win multiple championships


Pg: Billups defended by LeBron
Sg: MJ defended by Battier
SF: Bruce Bowen defended by Curry
PF: Sheed defended by Lauri
C: Jokic/ Steven Adams .

PG:Curry
Sg: Battier
SF LeBron
PF: Lauri
C : Steven Adams

Rasheed = 4 time all star
Billups = 5 time all star

My players didn't even make the all star game besides
Lauri 1 time.

I feel like the LeBron and Curry team can defend and score in the perimeter & dominate in the fast break & 3 pt shot and the paint.

This is clearly using average players vs what could be assembled.

[Ainosterhaspie]

MJ Jokic is better duo but you can build a better supsrteam around Lebron Curry.

Lebron is pass first and Curry great team player.
You can't add another superstar to MJ Jokic IMO

This isn't true, just add a more defensive superstar then, or add a movement/shooting star. This is only true if we have the assumption that superstar must be a primary offensive option type.

The vast majority of the time, for that third player you are better off with a better fitting All-Star or close type guy than trying to force another superstar in there.

You could add Jrue Holiday with Jokic and MJ, you could add a guy like Shawn Marion as a 3/4, you could add a guy like Sheed as a 4/5. You could add a PG like Billups or Kyle Lowry.

Regardless of which combination you choose, a third primary scorer type guy will take a backseat.

Lebron is not any more pass first than Jokic. He's read and attack first, he's a willing passer and looks to make the right play, but pass first with the idea that he's then not looking for his own a lot isn't realistic. Lebron has taken 17.6 FGA or more every season of his career plus the shot attempts from FT's. He's a scorer who is also a great passer.

His pairings where there was a third superstar don't support the idea that a third guy would do much offensively or that Lebron would greatly decrease his shots and focus on passing. That would not be his game.

Don’t need a third star. Tell me that doesn’t win multiple championships


Pg: Billups
Sg: MJ
SF: Bruce Bowen
PF: Sheed
C: Jokic.

That may not be a third star, but that's also a lot of All-NBA defense, all star and even an extra FMVP.

Compare to something like...

PG: Curry
SG: Danny Green
F: James
F: Battier
C: Gasol.

The trio of Billups/Bowen/Wallace have collectively 9 All Star appearances, 3 All NBA selections and 10 all defense team selections. That's a very well decorated supporting cast. Compare to 3, 2 and 4 for the other trio in those categories.

[AleksandarN]

This isn't true, just add a more defensive superstar then, or add a movement/shooting star. This is only true if we have the assumption that superstar must be a primary offensive option type.

The vast majority of the time, for that third player you are better off with a better fitting All-Star or close type guy than trying to force another superstar in there.

You could add Jrue Holiday with Jokic and MJ, you could add a guy like Shawn Marion as a 3/4, you could add a guy like Sheed as a 4/5. You could add a PG like Billups or Kyle Lowry.

Regardless of which combination you choose, a third primary scorer type guy will take a backseat.

Lebron is not any more pass first than Jokic. He's read and attack first, he's a willing passer and looks to make the right play, but pass first with the idea that he's then not looking for his own a lot isn't realistic. Lebron has taken 17.6 FGA or more every season of his career plus the shot attempts from FT's. He's a scorer who is also a great passer.

His pairings where there was a third superstar don't support the idea that a third guy would do much offensively or that Lebron would greatly decrease his shots and focus on passing. That would not be his game.

Don’t need a third star. Tell me that doesn’t win multiple championships


Pg: Billups defended by LeBron
Sg: MJ defended by Battier
SF: Bruce Bowen defended by Curry
PF: Sheed defended by Lauri
C: Jokic/ Steven Adams .

PG:Curry
Sg: Battier
SF LeBron
PF: Lauri
C : Steven Adams

Rasheed = 4 time all star
Billups = 5 time all star

My players didn't even make the all star game besides
Lauri 1 time.

I feel like the LeBron and Curry team can defend and score in the perimeter & dominate in the fast break & 3 pt shot and the paint.

This is clearly using average players vs what could be assembled.

Terrible. Bowen shoots over Curry easily. MJ cooks Battier same with Jokic over Adams. Heck Lauri gets cooked By Rasheed. The only defender that doesn’t get cooked is Lebron because he is Lebron

[LaLover11]

This isn't true, just add a more defensive superstar then, or add a movement/shooting star. This is only true if we have the assumption that superstar must be a primary offensive option type.

The vast majority of the time, for that third player you are better off with a better fitting All-Star or close type guy than trying to force another superstar in there.

You could add Jrue Holiday with Jokic and MJ, you could add a guy like Shawn Marion as a 3/4, you could add a guy like Sheed as a 4/5. You could add a PG like Billups or Kyle Lowry.

Regardless of which combination you choose, a third primary scorer type guy will take a backseat.

Lebron is not any more pass first than Jokic. He's read and attack first, he's a willing passer and looks to make the right play, but pass first with the idea that he's then not looking for his own a lot isn't realistic. Lebron has taken 17.6 FGA or more every season of his career plus the shot attempts from FT's. He's a scorer who is also a great passer.

His pairings where there was a third superstar don't support the idea that a third guy would do much offensively or that Lebron would greatly decrease his shots and focus on passing. That would not be his game.

Don’t need a third star. Tell me that doesn’t win multiple championships


Pg: Billups
Sg: MJ
SF: Bruce Bowen
PF: Sheed
C: Jokic.

That may not be a third star, but that's also a lot of All-NBA defense, all star and even an extra FMVP.

Compare to something like...

PG: Curry
SG: Danny Green
F: James
F: Battier
C: Gasol.

The trio of Billups/Bowen/Wallace have collectively 9 All Star appearances, 3 All NBA selections and 10 all defense team selections. That's a very well decorated supporting cast. Compare to 3, 2 and 4 for the other trio in those categories.

Exactly he doesn't seem to understand that whole point
It would be easy to get players with multiple all star appearances, all defense selections etc to beat that team he just posted lol.