Terry Rozier investigated by the feds for manipulating his performances

[Mr Puddles]

A 2nd pick is not hurting us.

You think putting the integrity of the game at risk is only going to cost you a second?

What are you expecting? I'm willing to bet our 1st round picks are safe.

The Mavericks got away with a 750,000 dollar fine for doing essentially what Terry Rozier is accused of, throwing a game, so there's precedent for this. The punishment should be minimal here.

[BBallFreak]

A 2nd pick is not hurting us.

You think putting the integrity of the game at risk is only going to cost you a second?

What are you expecting? I'm willing to bet our 1st round picks are safe.

I don't know what you'd be hit with. I don't really care. I just wouldn't be crowing about how great you are when a member of the Charlotte Hornets - your team!!! - potentially attempted to violate the integrity of the game. It's in poor taste.

[azcatz11]

You think putting the integrity of the game at risk is only going to cost you a second?

What are you expecting? I'm willing to bet our 1st round picks are safe.

I don't know what you'd be hit with. I don't really care. I just wouldn't be crowing about how great you are when a member of the Charlotte Hornets - your team!!! - potentially attempted to violate the integrity of the game. It's in poor taste.

Lol - do you want blood from JustBuzzin? Who honestly cares. He's not a star player. Worst case - they ban him like they did with Porter and no one will honestly care. It will be a news story for a day.

Once it's a star player though...that's when things will get juicy. I personally thought that this was very unlikely with a guy worth $100M but it appears I was wrong.

[JustBuzzin]

You think putting the integrity of the game at risk is only going to cost you a second?

What are you expecting? I'm willing to bet our 1st round picks are safe.

I don't know what you'd be hit with. I don't really care. I just wouldn't be crowing about how great you are when a member of the Charlotte Hornets - your team!!! - potentially attempted to violate the integrity of the game. It's in poor taste.

So this conversation was never about Rozier just about me being a Charlotte fan laughing because we traded him for a 1st Rd pick. Gotcha!

[TwitterFingers]

How so?

It happened while he was playing in Charlotte. If the leak wasn't him but was a Charlotte staff, then who do you think the NBA is going to go after?

A 2nd pick is not hurting us.

It might not hurt a great deal, but I wouldn’t be eager to give any picks away, first or second.

[BBallFreak]

What are you expecting? I'm willing to bet our 1st round picks are safe.

I don't know what you'd be hit with. I don't really care. I just wouldn't be crowing about how great you are when a member of the Charlotte Hornets - your team!!! - potentially attempted to violate the integrity of the game. It's in poor taste.

So this conversation was never about Rozier just about me being a Charlotte fan laughing because we traded him for a 1st Rd pick. Gotcha!

That's literally what you got from what I said? Your team potentially allowed something like this to happen in your building. It could have been your trainers, an assistant coach, someone on your staff, or one of your players. If it were my team, I'd be pretty pissed.

I don't care about the pick. I want Rozier off my team because the stink of him reflects badly on my team. I care about the product!

[JustBuzzin]

What are you expecting? I'm willing to bet our 1st round picks are safe.

I don't know what you'd be hit with. I don't really care. I just wouldn't be crowing about how great you are when a member of the Charlotte Hornets - your team!!! - potentially attempted to violate the integrity of the game. It's in poor taste.

Lol - do you want blood from JustBuzzin? Who honestly cares. He's not a star player. Worst case - they ban him like they did with Porter and no one will honestly care. It will be a news story for a day.

Once it's a star player though...that's when things will get juicy. I personally thought that this was very unlikely with a guy worth $100M but it appears I was wrong.

It was never about Rozier he just felt because I was a Charlotte fan I shouldn't be laughing.

This is no big deal for us he knows it so he just wanted to check me for being a Hornets fan. Like I said I don't take sports seriously I will laugh at other teams because I can. If you want to bash the Hornets by all means do it.

[JustBuzzin]

I don't know what you'd be hit with. I don't really care. I just wouldn't be crowing about how great you are when a member of the Charlotte Hornets - your team!!! - potentially attempted to violate the integrity of the game. It's in poor taste.

So this conversation was never about Rozier just about me being a Charlotte fan laughing because we traded him for a 1st Rd pick. Gotcha!

That's literally what you got from what I said? Your team potentially allowed something like this to happen in your building. It could have been your trainers, an assistant coach, someone on your staff, or one of your players. If it were my team, I'd be pretty pissed.

I don't care about the pick. I want Rozier off my team because the stink of him reflects badly on my team. I care about the product!

Cool story bro. I hope you get your wish.

[Cavsfansince84]

Is this a U.S thing because in Europe gambling is quite acceptable, in my country we have 14/15 year olds going to bet for football/soccer games.

I don't think the proliferation of gambling in any country is going to somehow make sports better or more legitimate somehow. Do you get my point? Corruption relating to gambling happens all over the world, not just in the United States.

[DusterBuster]

Fun times in South Beach!

[canada_dry]

To give Rozier the benefit of the doubt, I am reading that he played 10 minutes and left with a sore foot. That doesn't mean he intentionally "threw" the game by faking his injury, nor does it mean he intentionally shared this info with someone so they could bet on it. It's entirely possible that he was suffering this foot injury already and they said "well let's get you out there and see how you feel, if it's sore we'll sit you after a bit of run" and any number of people were privy to that info. Rozier himself, of course, but any number of Heat staff, coaches, doctors, other players might well know that Rozier's foot was iffy and he was unlikely to play more than a short stint in that game. And it is possible that someone, knowing that information, fed it to a gambling cutout. But it's also possible they leaked the information unintentionally, and someone who found it out then used that info to place a bet.

I have to think that a lot of people who are connected to the NBA traffic in this kind of info for gambling purposes, and the players themselves don't even need to be in on it. A team doctor, Rozier's friend, his dog walker, his cousin, any one of them could have been chatting with Rozier and he inadvertently lets slip "yeah my foot is feeling a bit better, gonna try to play tomorrow night but probably won't play the full game, just gotta get in there and see how I feel"

That's right out the jontay porter playbook. Im not gonna lie.

[canada_dry]

Charlotte stand up!


We got a 1st round pick for this guy lol


Tough times for Miami right now.

You have a woman beater on your team. I would stay quiet

[RunOKC]

All players manipulate their performance or else gambling would be easy

The refs help out with it too

[GiannisAnte34]

All players manipulate their performance or else gambling would be easy

The refs help out with it too

Exactly they constantly manipulate scores and ****

The only sure fire thing that would be profitable is if someone could identify how much money goes on team A and team B, then just always bet against the team that gets heavier money placed

[Ruma85]

Is this a U.S thing because in Europe gambling is quite acceptable, in my country we have 14/15 year olds going to bet for football/soccer games.

I don't think the proliferation of gambling in any country is going to somehow make sports better or more legitimate somehow. Do you get my point? Corruption relating to gambling happens all over the world, not just in the United States.

I totally understand it, just gambling has been happening aroumd before anyone was even born here, I understand it's just we all have a choice, it's no different then drinking,smoking, or doing drugs.

[KyRo23]

Did he play better?

I always love to look at this angle, because as repulsive as this is, there's something about a player betting their over that almost makes me respect it a bit

now if they're betting the under... in my opinion it just makes it so much worse. Both are ****, don't get me wrong, but one is definitely worse

[wco81]

Oh wow. This makes sense to do when you're making 20+ million a year...

How large bets could he have been making without raising a lot of red flags?

A few thousand here or there is nothing to him and may not be noticed. Well spending money, something to carry in his pocket.

So was it greed?

Maybe he felt like a fraud, like undeserving of his NBA salary so he thought he'd make some real money.

[zeebneeb]

Any player, coach, GM, hell, even towel boy, gets caught manipulating the game, or anything for gambling, should be immediately banned for life, from the game. All contracts/payments/commitments void.

No fines will stop game manipulation, only the absolute ban hammer.

[MrBigShot]

You think putting the integrity of the game at risk is only going to cost you a second?

What are you expecting? I'm willing to bet our 1st round picks are safe.

The Mavericks got away with a 750,000 dollar fine for doing essentially what Terry Rozier is accused of, throwing a game, so there's precedent for this. The punishment should be minimal here.

They rested guys to secure a lottery pick.

Throwing a game or feigning injury/purposely playing bad to ensure a bet goes a certain way is a COMPLETELY different story, when you mess with $$$ you put yourself in deep trouble. Jontay Porter was hit with a federal felony.

If this isn't a misunderstanding then Rozer is really, really dumb.

[azcatz11]

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