Luka Doncic is now 270 pounds

[_qubik]

when Luka popped that beer after winning the WCF and Michael Finley walked up and took it away from him. You had to feel like that was almost a clear signal from the FO saying "we don't think you have the right mentality", and look, it makes sense for a guy that's on a rookie deal, still new to the NBA, over achieves. But Luka is making max money to be the next "LeBron James" or "Kobe Bryant" etc. and Dallas has constructed their team clearly to be able to win today.

There has to be more behind the scenes, I think that Dallas felt like they had given Luka so much opportunity to be the best he could be and relative to what he could be, he was underperforming. Showing up out of shape, not taking his diet and conditioning seriously, and this was kind of the only way to really hurt him, because it removes the super max, it also hits him on the state taxes, he's going to make A LOT less money to be the same guy now, except he's in Los Angeles on the freakin' LAKERS.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SVsX5uz9ip4

Now if the Lakers believe that having LeBron in the locker room with Luka can fix his clear behavioral and mentality based issues, then so be it. It feels like there is some work to be done here. However, the basketball fit between LeBron and Luka is so questionable. The Lakers are CLEARLY a worse team than yesterday. The Lakers were SLIGHTLY turning a new leaf here, 5th in the West, just beat the Knicks, things were honestly looking up, maybe they could have a 2nd round exit, maybe they could sneak into the WCF, maybe they had a shot to win it all.

It almost feels like they slammed the door on LeBron, basically said, "alright we are going to rebuild and think selfishly for a bit now, Luka Doncic gives US the best possible future"

So you have to wonder, if LeBron will be out the door soon and if so that means that Luka is going to be in a locker room with basically no real veteran superstar to guide him and you tie that in with his existing bad habits, the difference of lifestyle in LA, and it really does show a lot of risk.

I mean, if a broken Luka can take you to the Finals, fat and drinking, while being the League Top Scorer. Hell, we better pray for him not to stop the bad habits. Because I would trade the entire Heat roster for a fat, drunk and smoking Luka

[The4thHorseman]

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Pretty bad picture to use for him to allegedly be 270#

[shi-woo]

He's an alcoholic. Takes one to know one.

Not sure how this is the conclusion when he’s injured and probably just haven’t been healthy enough to work out. But if this is true, then you get him help not trade him.

Not saying he's an alcoholic or that his recent weight gain has to do with alcohol specifically, but Doncic is definitely known among Euro basketball journos to be a drinker. Loves his beer and vodka. He's known to spend his summers drinking and smoking hookahs.

I think that's fine considering the stereotype of the modern NBA player is a stoner who lives at the strip club NBA culture and street culture go hand in hand, so don't know how much of an issue this really is when the majority of the league are pot heads and go to the club literally every night and get wasted.

The propaganda on this trade is almost as bad as the actual trade. Just taking the low hanging fruit from the finals narrative because they know it's still fresh and just running with it, even though that fat kid with the hookah dragged you to the finals.

Good try Adam Silver, no ones buying the spin on this one (except Laker fans(

[SA37]

he could weight 1000 pounds for all i care...not an excuse for gifting him

Russillo said on the Bill Simmons pod that Luka could be smoking cigarettes while he was on the court and he would beg him to sign the max.

Vlade Divac wasn't Luke Doncic, but that guy allegedly smoked cigs during halftime.

[sikma42]

Why did they not do their due diligence? Did they call anyone else? That's mismanagement. How can you explain that he didn't ask to be traded there and you didn't get a 2nd or 3rd offer to compare?

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I’m guessing maybe OKC or Boston? Not sure what other team would decline besides Denver/Bucks

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[elchengue20]

People here have clearly never heard of Vin Baker. His last season before his alcoholism became a problem he was an All-Star and All-NBA 2nd team, after that he never had another positive VORP season and his numbers dropped off a cliff, you can see it even in his late 20s. Shawn Kemp, Eddy Curry, and Zion are also examples of what can go wrong with diet even for an All-Star level player, it's not unprecedented.

I'm not saying Luka will go the way of any of these players, but clearly the Mavs were not comfortable giving him a supermax (up to $80M/year with the increasing cap levels). There's no question they will have tried everything they can to this point, begging him to eat better and cut down on the booze, getting a better offseason training regimen and working hard to be the best player in the league. But when that doesn't work you have to look out for the franchise first, if they tried to fix him and couldn't, trading him was the only option, especially if he was planning on leaving in a couple of years anyway.

I agree, i think there is something really wrong with Luka conditiong. Luka is 25 , looking like he's 35. If he doesn't starts behaving like a pro, his MVP level doesn't seems to be sustainable for much longer.

That being sayed, it still doesn't justifies Dallas to sell him without shooping him around and getting the best posible offer. Hell, they could have gotten more even from the Lakers alone.

[zero rings]

Not sure how this is the conclusion when he’s injured and probably just haven’t been healthy enough to work out. But if this is true, then you get him help not trade him.

Not saying he's an alcoholic or that his recent weight gain has to do with alcohol specifically, but Doncic is definitely known among Euro basketball journos to be a drinker. Loves his beer and vodka. He's known to spend his summers drinking and smoking hookahs.

I think that's fine considering the stereotype of the modern NBA player is a stoner who lives at the strip club NBA culture and street culture go hand in hand, so don't know how much of an issue this really is when the majority of the league are pot heads and go to the club literally every night and get wasted.

The propaganda on this trade is almost as bad as the actual trade. Just taking the low hanging fruit from the finals narrative because they know it's still fresh and just running with it, even though that fat kid with the hookah dragged you to the finals.

Good try Adam Silver, no ones buying the spin on this one (except Laker fans(

That may be true, but at least most of those potheads and strip club enthusiasts manage to stay in shape.

If Luka is actually 270, he is grossly overweight. Most centers don’t even weigh 270, and this guy plays point guard!

Whatever his weight is, the Mavs felt his diet and conditioning were so bad that they needed to get off of him before the rest of the league caught on. That’s the real story of this trade. They were DESPERATE to get rid of him.

[An Unbiased Fan]

FYI, Shaq was fat with the Lakers from 97-99(near 400).....and then he got in shape and we know what happened.

The idea of giving up on a 25 year old who just took you to the NBA Finals, and is dropping 28/8/7 is insane lol. Guaranteed he will get a new work ethic next to Lebron.

[SA37]

Bruh, Luka's fat ass was dominating the league and he dragged a relatively pedestrian group + Kyrie to the Finals. I mean, who else is doing that in the L?

I repeat: this ish feels like Private Equity arrived in Dallas and the quality went out the window in favor of a pretty balance sheet. The next thing we'll hear is the money saved in tax payments has been dumped into Michael Saylor's MicroStrategy.

I really really really hope the Mavs locker room is in this mode:

Spoiler:

[An Unbiased Fan]

Bruh, Luka's fat ass was dominating the league and he dragged a relatively pedestrian group + Kyrie to the Finals. I mean, who else is doing that in the L?

I repeat: this ish feels like Private Equity arrived in Dallas and the quality went out the window in favor of a pretty balance sheet. The next thing we'll hear is the money saved in tax payments has been dumped into Michael Saylor's MicroStrategy.

I really really really hope the Mavs locker room is in this mode:

Spoiler:

I have to wonder if this was a Mavs front office move. The reports say the tension has been there for a few years.

[ReddoverKobe]

Ownership malfeasance by the Mavs. At worst you have to let every team know that he can be traded for.

[CIN-C-STAR]

Looks like the Lakers might already have their new center then
Lol

[ciueli]

People here have clearly never heard of Vin Baker. His last season before his alcoholism became a problem he was an All-Star and All-NBA 2nd team, after that he never had another positive VORP season and his numbers dropped off a cliff, you can see it even in his late 20s. Shawn Kemp, Eddy Curry, and Zion are also examples of what can go wrong with diet even for an All-Star level player, it's not unprecedented.

I'm not saying Luka will go the way of any of these players, but clearly the Mavs were not comfortable giving him a supermax (up to $80M/year with the increasing cap levels). There's no question they will have tried everything they can to this point, begging him to eat better and cut down on the booze, getting a better offseason training regimen and working hard to be the best player in the league. But when that doesn't work you have to look out for the franchise first, if they tried to fix him and couldn't, trading him was the only option, especially if he was planning on leaving in a couple of years anyway.

I agree, i think there is something really wrong with Luka conditiong. Luka is 25 , looking like he's 35. If he doesn't starts behaving like a pro, his MVP level doesn't seems to be sustainable for much longer.

That being sayed, it still doesn't justifies Dallas to sell him without shooping him around and getting the best posible offer. Hell, they could have gotten more even from the Lakers alone.

Except that's not always how it works when you start shopping a player, I know because I watched the Raptors shop Pascal Siakam and he completely tanked his trade value by claiming he would refuse to sign a contract extension with any team that traded for him. Raptors traded their franchise player and got back Bruce Brown and three late firsts, two in one of the weakest drafts in a decade. That's what can happen when you shop a player, they start exerting control over their destination, and you give teams time to start asking questions about why this player is on the block, just look at the Jimmy Butler situation in Miami.

[shi-woo]

Not saying he's an alcoholic or that his recent weight gain has to do with alcohol specifically, but Doncic is definitely known among Euro basketball journos to be a drinker. Loves his beer and vodka. He's known to spend his summers drinking and smoking hookahs.

I think that's fine considering the stereotype of the modern NBA player is a stoner who lives at the strip club NBA culture and street culture go hand in hand, so don't know how much of an issue this really is when the majority of the league are pot heads and go to the club literally every night and get wasted.

The propaganda on this trade is almost as bad as the actual trade. Just taking the low hanging fruit from the finals narrative because they know it's still fresh and just running with it, even though that fat kid with the hookah dragged you to the finals.

Good try Adam Silver, no ones buying the spin on this one (except Laker fans(

That may be true, but at least most of those potheads and strip club enthusiasts manage to stay in shape.

If Luka is actually 270, he is grossly overweight. Most centers don’t even weigh 270, and this guy plays point guard!

Whatever his weight is, the Mavs felt his diet and conditioning were so bad that they needed to get off of him before the rest of the league caught on. That’s the real story of this trade. They were DESPERATE to get rid of him.

That's the crazy thing though, sports history tells us that isn't true as long as that player performs.

Shaq is a great example, and really the only one we need to talk about here given his skill level.
Same with Chuck after his first contract
David Ortiz is a legend in Boston and Big is literally his nickname
Bartolo Colon was one of the greatest pitchers of his generation and was always in demand.

We all know how much they tried to use Jokic's weight against him to force him out of Denver, then he won a ring and it was okay

No one is buying Luka was traded for being out of shape, it would be a first in the history of Sports for player of his calibur and age. Dudes 25 not 35. 20 years ago he would still be on his first contract, Mav's didn't even wait to see what he looked like in his prime.

[DirtyDez]

Bruh, Luka's fat ass was dominating the league and he dragged a relatively pedestrian group + Kyrie to the Finals. I mean, who else is doing that in the L?

I repeat: this ish feels like Private Equity arrived in Dallas and the quality went out the window in favor of a pretty balance sheet. The next thing we'll hear is the money saved in tax payments has been dumped into Michael Saylor's MicroStrategy.

I really really really hope the Mavs locker room is in this mode:

Spoiler:

I have to wonder if this was a Mavs front office move. The reports say the tension has been there for a few years.

The only reason you trade Luka is if there’s massive issues behind the scenes. We don’t need to see post-trade leaks to know that.

[Swift21]

It looked liked they were walking on eggshells around the issues with his weight.

[infinite11285]

If Ozempic isn't on the list of banned substances, Luka is going to be shot up like a race horse until the weight comes down.

[zero rings]

I think that's fine considering the stereotype of the modern NBA player is a stoner who lives at the strip club NBA culture and street culture go hand in hand, so don't know how much of an issue this really is when the majority of the league are pot heads and go to the club literally every night and get wasted.

The propaganda on this trade is almost as bad as the actual trade. Just taking the low hanging fruit from the finals narrative because they know it's still fresh and just running with it, even though that fat kid with the hookah dragged you to the finals.

Good try Adam Silver, no ones buying the spin on this one (except Laker fans(

That may be true, but at least most of those potheads and strip club enthusiasts manage to stay in shape.

If Luka is actually 270, he is grossly overweight. Most centers don’t even weigh 270, and this guy plays point guard!

Whatever his weight is, the Mavs felt his diet and conditioning were so bad that they needed to get off of him before the rest of the league caught on. That’s the real story of this trade. They were DESPERATE to get rid of him.

That's the crazy thing though, sports history tells us that isn't true as long as that player performs.

Shaq is a great example, and really the only one we need to talk about here given his skill level.
Same with Chuck after his first contract
David Ortiz is a legend in Boston and Big is literally his nickname
Bartolo Colon was one of the greatest pitchers of his generation and was always in demand.

We all know how much they tried to use Jokic's weight against him to force him out of Denver, then he won a ring and it was okay

No one is buying Luka was traded for being out of shape, it would be a first in the history of Sports for player of his calibur and age. Dudes 25 not 35. 20 years ago he would still be on his first contract, Mav's didn't even wait to see what he looked like in his prime.

None of those guys played point guard in the NBA. Ortiz and Colon played positions where they literally didn’t have to run.

If Luka is actually 270 pounds, that is pretty damning. It means he is unprofessional and doesn’t take care of himself at all.

I still think they should have gotten more from the Lakers, but I understand the Mavs not wanting to give him $350 million. They’ve worked with him for 7 years now and they know better than anyone what he’s like behind the scenes. If they think he’s never going to get his act together, it’s time to move on.

[LuckyGreen7]

Luka is not just a little doughy ala Jokic. He is legitimately on his way to Antoine Walkering himself. It's embarrassing how out of shape he is

[Yuri36]

People here have clearly never heard of Vin Baker. His last season before his alcoholism became a problem he was an All-Star and All-NBA 2nd team, after that he never had another positive VORP season and his numbers dropped off a cliff, you can see it even in his late 20s. Shawn Kemp, Eddy Curry, and Zion are also examples of what can go wrong with diet even for an All-Star level player, it's not unprecedented.

I'm not saying Luka will go the way of any of these players, but clearly the Mavs were not comfortable giving him a supermax (up to $80M/year with the increasing cap levels). There's no question they will have tried everything they can to this point, begging him to eat better and cut down on the booze, getting a better offseason training regimen and working hard to be the best player in the league. But when that doesn't work you have to look out for the franchise first, if they tried to fix him and couldn't, trading him was the only option, especially if he was planning on leaving in a couple of years anyway.

I agree, i think there is something really wrong with Luka conditiong. Luka is 25 , looking like he's 35. If he doesn't starts behaving like a pro, his MVP level doesn't seems to be sustainable for much longer.

That being sayed, it still doesn't justifies Dallas to sell him without shooping him around and getting the best posible offer. Hell, they could have gotten more even from the Lakers alone.

And 35 might be generous when you look at the conditioning of most of the current 35+ years old NBA players.