Deni Avdija

[Exp0sed]

A question for the moderators, why this comment is "Warned for political derailing":




But this one isn't:



?

"Love Israel" is political derailing?

Ridicilous..


edit: oh, and that toxic one (the second one) is straight up propganda and straight up political, funny how that one warranted no warning despite being a.) false and b.) very clearly derailing the thread with politics hmm

False? About how Deni is underpaid? I said he was on a good contract and I believe so. How is he overpaid?

no, I was referencing the politicial statement (the one that didn't get a warning). nothing to do with Deni or his contract.

[John Murdoch]

Im impressed , i never wat h him tbh only look at his numbers

[bisme37]

A question for the moderators, why this comment is "Warned for political derailing":

Love Deni Love Israel <3

Warned for political derailing.

But this one isn't:

Also an Israeli celebrity not signing bombs aimed at civilians is a huge bonus.

?

"Love Israel" is political derailing?

Ridicilous..


edit: oh, and that toxic one (the second one) is straight up propganda and straight up political, funny how that one warranted no warning despite being a.) false and b.) very clearly derailing the thread with politics hmm

Sorry guys. I think you are right with your criticism here.

The brutalitops comment was worse and more political than the post that got warned. The mod who issued the initial warning to spyda didn't see the other post. And it looks silly on our part for sure.

The poster who made the worse comment has been issued a strike/suspension now. The warning to spyda was not a strike, fwiw.

[bisme37]

^ With that said, please get off the politics now or we'll have to lock the thread. Thx.

[Pattycakes]

They just need a star guard and a really good defensive guard, like a Caruso type. Bring Simons off the bench for instant offense. It’ll be fun to watch their frontcourt gel though.

Simons is a goner. Not in our long term plans methinks

I agree

how do u feel about Sharpe? obviously he's shown flashes, is an insane athlete and still only 21 but he doesn't seem to be meshing well with the other guys and team oriented basketball and his shooting has been woeful. I know he's young so there's still plenty of upside but that also means in theory, the Blazers could recoup the investment on him at least somewhat

I don’t think he’s the surefire superstar prospect many blazers fans harp on about.

He’s young, he’s legit talented, and a good/quiet teammate.

What he lacks is the fire to be the best - but I have high high hopes for the Scoot/Shaedon backcourt even if it requires one of them coming off the bench at times.

On a top playoff team, that’s a great scenario.

I have realistic expectations for our guys, neither are the next “it thing” but consistent progress is equally as bullish.

17.5 ppg on 45% shooting at age 21 and the best dunks in the league is hardly a negative outlook.

[Clyde Frazier]

We now have a legitimate sample size of deni's rise. Over the last 47 games (where the blazers are basically a 500 team at 23-24), he’s put up the following:

17.9 PPG, 7.2 RPG, 4 APG, .9 SPG on 49.7% FG, 38.7% 3PT (4.9 3PA), 78.2% FT (5.5 FTA) which is good for 63% TS!

Haven’t watched him a ton during this stretch, but the thing that stuck out to me is how much he leverages his size. Has wing skills but also can take it strong in the paint. Hope to see him keep it up.

[MissileMike]

So would you rather have Deni or the Giddler?

[Myth]

So would you rather have Deni or the Giddler?

May be bias, but I go with Deni due to defense.

[Exp0sed]

Simons is a goner. Not in our long term plans methinks

I agree

how do u feel about Sharpe? obviously he's shown flashes, is an insane athlete and still only 21 but he doesn't seem to be meshing well with the other guys and team oriented basketball and his shooting has been woeful. I know he's young so there's still plenty of upside but that also means in theory, the Blazers could recoup the investment on him at least somewhat

I don’t think he’s the surefire superstar prospect many blazers fans harp on about.

He’s young, he’s legit talented, and a good/quiet teammate.

What he lacks is the fire to be the best - but I have high high hopes for the Scoot/Shaedon backcourt even if it requires one of them coming off the bench at times.

On a top playoff team, that’s a great scenario.

I have realistic expectations for our guys, neither are the next “it thing” but consistent progress is equally as bullish.

17.5 ppg on 45% shooting at age 21 and the best dunks in the league is hardly a negative outlook.

obviously I watched alot less Blazers ball than u, so I haven't seen Sharpe all that much (which is why I asked)

when I did watch him, I came out mostly unimpressed. he's young and obviously super athletic but I just didn't see a high skill level or a good understanding of the game. his shooting is a bigger issue than his drive imo and idk, I just didn't see anything special out of him (besides his hops)

[doogie_hauser]

So would you rather have Deni or the Giddler?

Josh is 2 years younger and imo still has a higher ceiling/room for improvement.

[Exp0sed]

So would you rather have Deni or the Giddler?

Josh is 2 years younger and imo still has a higher ceiling/room for improvement.

yeah, Giddey is like a great 6'8 PG and just 21 with more upside for sure. from what i've seen tho, he's being targeted on D i'm not sure he has alot of potential on that end but maybe..

[doogie_hauser]

So would you rather have Deni or the Giddler?

Josh is 2 years younger and imo still has a higher ceiling/room for improvement.

yeah, Giddey is like a great 6'8 PG and just 21 with more upside for sure. from what i've seen tho, he's being targeted on D i'm not sure he has alot of potential on that end but maybe..

First couple of years Tatum didn't play much D in the NBA but he worked really hard and is now arguably the best two way wing player in the NBA (his defensive nous really has improved a lot the last two years)

[Exp0sed]

Josh is 2 years younger and imo still has a higher ceiling/room for improvement.

yeah, Giddey is like a great 6'8 PG and just 21 with more upside for sure. from what i've seen tho, he's being targeted on D i'm not sure he has alot of potential on that end but maybe..

First couple of years Tatum didn't play much D in the NBA but he worked really hard and is now arguably the best two way wing player in the NBA (his defensive nous really has improved a lot the last two years)

Giddey is very slow, short arms etc. doesn't have the tools Tatum has

[Myth]

I agree

how do u feel about Sharpe? obviously he's shown flashes, is an insane athlete and still only 21 but he doesn't seem to be meshing well with the other guys and team oriented basketball and his shooting has been woeful. I know he's young so there's still plenty of upside but that also means in theory, the Blazers could recoup the investment on him at least somewhat

I don’t think he’s the surefire superstar prospect many blazers fans harp on about.

He’s young, he’s legit talented, and a good/quiet teammate.

What he lacks is the fire to be the best - but I have high high hopes for the Scoot/Shaedon backcourt even if it requires one of them coming off the bench at times.

On a top playoff team, that’s a great scenario.

I have realistic expectations for our guys, neither are the next “it thing” but consistent progress is equally as bullish.

17.5 ppg on 45% shooting at age 21 and the best dunks in the league is hardly a negative outlook.

obviously I watched alot less Blazers ball than u, so I haven't seen Sharpe all that much (which is why I asked)

when I did watch him, I came out mostly unimpressed. he's young and obviously super athletic but I just didn't see a high skill level or a good understanding of the game. his shooting is a bigger issue than his drive imo and idk, I just didn't see anything special out of him (besides his hops)

He is wildly inconsistent, his 3 is not good, and his defense is questionable. There are definitely concerns. But he also has shown moments of just taking over games, and he is elite around the league, with tons of room for growth as he is just 21 and hasn’t been given the role to develop that consistency. This is one of the complaints Blazers fans have had about Billups and simply keeping Simons, because many have wanted the keys handed to him so he can work on that rather than given the backseat to Simons. But as an example of some of the promise, in March he leads the league in fg% in the restricted area (min. 50 attempts), which is a stat typically dominated by much bigger players.

1. Sharpe 85.2%
2. Jarrett Allen 80%
3. Naji Marshall 79.3%
4. Duren 77.3%
5. Mark Williams 77%
6. Giannis 75.7
7. Siakam 75.4
8. Jokic 74.5
9. KAT 73.3
10. Braun 73.1

Cherry picked stat? Sure, but I still believe it is meaningful and shows a uniqueness that can be lethal if the rest of his game develops well.

[Exp0sed]

He is wildly inconsistent, his 3 is not good, and his defense is questionable. There are definitely concerns. But he also has shown moments of just taking over games, and he is elite around the league, with tons of room for growth as he is just 21 and hasn’t been given the role to develop that consistency. This is one of the complaints Blazers fans have had about Billups and simply keeping Simons, because many have wanted the keys handed to him so he can work on that rather than given the backseat to Simons. But as an example of some of the promise, in March he leads the league in fg% in the restricted area (min. 50 attempts), which is a stat typically dominated by much bigger players.

1. Sharpe 85.2%
2. Jarrett Allen 80%
3. Naji Marshall 79.3%
4. Duren 77.3%
5. Mark Williams 77%
6. Giannis 75.7
7. Siakam 75.4
8. Jokic 74.5
9. KAT 73.3
10. Braun 73.1

Cherry picked stat? Sure, but I still believe it is meaningful and shows a uniqueness that can be lethal if the rest of his game develops well.

def cherry picked but I see where ur going with it and that's exactly what I wanted to know. I was looking for that elite angle, and this outlier is def very interesting. being an elite finisher already at 21, that's something for sure. yeah, I think it's pretty clear at this point the Blazers were better off moving on from Simons earlier but I think this season made them get to that point and I'm pretty confident he'll get traded in the offseason

it makes alot of sense and you guys can get some value for him as he's def a decent NBA player and a type of microwave scorer many teams are on the hunt for. I think the ship has sailed as far as him being any type of "star" player but def a player playoff teams would be interested in trading for. ultimately I think he'll have a better career as an elite 6th man rather than an average to weak starter. we'll see..

[Dr Aki]

[jbk1234]

I like him, but you can tell he's looking to initiate contact and get the call on most drives. I'm going to see how that translates in the playoffs, and how adjusts when the whistles get tighter, before anointing him a budding star.

[BNM]

I like him, but you can tell he's looking to initiate contact and get the call on most drives. I'm going to see how that translates in the playoffs, and how adjusts when the whistles get tighter, before anointing him a budding star.

He definitely pushes the ball up the floor and goes hard to the basket, but he's not just looking for a sympathetic whistle. He just doesn't flail his arms and hope for the best. He's a great at finishing through contact and always tries to get a legitimate shot off. As a result, he's 7th in the league in And 1s. The six guys ahead of him have combined for 6 MVPs and 33 all star appearances. He's in elite company when it comes to finishing through contact.

[OriAr]

He might really make the all-star game next year.
Best non rookie/non max contract in the league and it's not even close.

[JRoy]

So would you rather have Deni or the Giddler?

The one that plays defense.