Who was at fault on this Butler injury?

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Who is to blame for the Butler injury?

Amen Thompson - dirty play
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Draymond Green - caused it
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Steven Adams - pushes Amen
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No one - complete accident
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No one - but Amen should’ve controlled himself better
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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#81 » by brackdan70 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:24 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:How is this a controversy? It's so clearly an accident. Are we going to blame Jimmy for grabbing the rebound? Amen for going after a missed shot? Draymond for boxing out? Adams for trying to get out of Podz hold to go for the rebound? Podz for holding Adams and keeping himself between the Adams and the basket? Everyone did what they were supposed to do there. It's just unfortunate.

Yeah, it’s not a dirty play on anyone’s part. Draymond really wasn’t boxing out though, it’s a clear push. It’s a bit reckless imo, though it happens a lot. Not just Draymond.
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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#82 » by kingr » Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:26 pm

That looked bad. If that was draymond in place of amen thompson, amen thompson in place of Butler, I feel like people would be saying draymond is at fault to say the least. So I'll say Thompson. But it was not intentional.
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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#83 » by druggas » Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:06 pm

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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#84 » by Ice Man » Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:21 pm

brackdan70 wrote:Draymond really wasn’t boxing out though, it’s a clear push.


Which is a routine play in today's NBA, rarely whistled for a foul. Draymond is dirty as hell ... but not then.
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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#85 » by ThatBoyNick » Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:25 pm

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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#86 » by CometGM » Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:25 pm

Thompson "flopped" forward harder than he should have and caused it. Can't say it was intentional but definitely reckless. Although if you're gonna take someone out from the other team "by mistake" that is the perfect way to do it.
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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#87 » by dhsilv2 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:28 pm

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LordCovington33 wrote:A legit question? Of course, AT is to blame here.
Ofc?
Dray shoves Amen into the space under Butler. It's clearly on Green who has made his career from dirty plays and "guarding" illegally i.e commiting uncalled fouls off the ball

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The shove or push was form Adams not green. Green's leg was out and tripped him...the whole domino's started with Adams...who just happens to be not just one of the biggest guys in the league but still somehow freaky strong even for his huge size.
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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#89 » by rockmanslim » Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:48 pm

It only looked like a slight nudge because Adams is massive. It's like a bowling ball and a tennis ball colliding where the bowling ball barely changes direction but the tennis ball goes flying.
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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#90 » by Tomhomes33 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:58 pm

I don’r think it was intentional as AT could not predict in less than a second that Butler will come from the weak side with that rebound.

It seems to me that Green initiated contact/push and AT tried to get whistle.

Combination of two resulted in what happened.
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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#91 » by ITYSL » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:05 pm

Looks like Draymond hip checked Thompson into Butler, and Thompson exaggerated contact. Things like this happen many many times every game, with no injuries occurring. So it was both their faults but nothing dirty from either imo
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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#92 » by Kiss of Death » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:06 pm

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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#93 » by Vader » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:07 pm

Clearly It was a dirty Play from Green but it is normal if it is Green.
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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#94 » by LuDux1 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:19 pm

Sane wrote:What a bunch of BS. Draymond is holding Amen back ILLEGALLY and for "some reason" has his ankle way out of position in front of a moving Amen hoping to trip him. That's all dirty.

Once Amen is moving, Draymond removes his arm wanting Amen to trip over his foot, which obviously sends a tripping Amen forward into Butler.

Look at Draymond's face when it happens, even he knows he f*cked up.


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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#95 » by theFireBlanket » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:27 pm

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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#96 » by zshawn10 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:30 pm

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This is 100% on Thompson. Green was actually trying to hold him back if anything so Butler could get the rebound, Thompson just went for it and took out his legs :crazy:

Only question remains is if Thompson will be suspended.


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They both had a chance to call out amen but didn’t
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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#97 » by runtmc » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:32 pm

For anyone saying this was a dirty play by Amen, that's ridiculous, and I say that as a GS fan. Amen was fighting through the box out by Draymond and was stumbling forward from being hip/shoulder checked by Adams -- he only got to take a single step with his right foot before impacting Jimmy's legs with his face, and he actually didn't even get to take a full step. His foot was never actually planted, it was at a 45 degree angle to the floor because he was trying to get his feet under himself and catch himself. If you dont even have the body control to plant your foot correctly, you dont have the body control, or the leverage, to launch yourself forward. To say he could've/should've had better body control while trying to catch his balance is simply ridiculous -- the guy was basically trying to stop himself from falling on his face, and in a situation like that, your body is just reacting involuntarily. There's literally zero reason to believe there was anything malicious or intentional on Amen's part. And if anything, it shouldn't have even been a foul on Amen.

As for Draymond, it's equally ridiculous to say this was a dirty play by him. For anyone that's actually played basketball, Draymond had textbook box out form -- the only thing he did "wrong" was he didn't fully seal off Amen, which gave Amen enough room to try and fight around the box out. As Amen tried to get around Green, Draymond tried to hold Amen back with his arm and not let him get around him -- again, for anyone that has actually played basketball, this is exactly what he should be doing and it happens 100 times a game.

For those saying Draymond shoved Amen, watch the actual replay -- I guarantee if the announcer hadnt said they thought Draymond shoved him, nobody would even be saying it because of how ridiculous it sounds if you watch the actual replay. It clearly shows Draymond's arm is holding Amen back while Amen is trying to push through Draymond's arm, he only stumbles when Adams crashes into him from the side and then further trips over Draymond's leg as he's pushed forward. But the point is its physically impossible to shove someone forward while your arm is moving backwards.

Second, for those saying Draymond tripped him intentionally in some sort of dirty way -- Draymond had his legs out and set before Amen even started moving forward for the rebound because he was boxing out, which is exactly what he should be doing. Draymond jumped up to contest the shot, and then immediately spun and got into box out position as soon as he landed -- with Amen behind him. He didnt raise his leg/foot off the floor. Now, its true that Amen did trip over Draymond's leg, but that's because Amen was pushed forward by the hip/shoulder check from Adams. If you watch the replay, Amen's left side goes slightly backwards as Draymond holds him back with his arm, while Amen's right side is pushed forward from being hit by Adams and he spins a bit as he stumbles forward while tripping over Draymond's leg. But to act like boxing out is a dirty play by Draymond? Give me a break.

Lastly, if anyone is to blame its Adams, since he's the one that really caused the chain reaction, but it's also clear Adams wasn't trying to push Amen into anyone or did anything intentional or malicious either. He shoves Podz to the side and then tries to go around him to get the rebound -- again, for anyone that has played basketball, this happens 100 times a game. Podz had terrible box out technique since he should be facing the basket instead of facing Adams, but pushing and shoving under the basket to get a rebound happens literally every single time there's a missed shot. Its just part of the game.

It was a freak accident. Unfortunate for GS. But there wasnt anything dirty about it by anyone involved.
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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#98 » by Jadoogar » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:34 pm

idk why it would be Amen's fault? He clearly tripped/pushed, he wasn't aiming for Butler.
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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#99 » by Clay Davis » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:35 pm

Draymond was trying to box out Amen by using his leg to stop him from getting a clear path to the basket. Adams was going for the ball, so he collided into Amen who fell over Draymond's knee and lost his balance. Amen isn't at fault here he's just being squeezed. I don't admire the rizz of Draymond but this looks like an accident and I'm sure people box out all the time with their leg.
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Re: Who was at fault on this Butler injury? 

Post#100 » by Duffman100 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:37 pm

Not everything has to be an 'at fault' situation. It's a sport. **** happens.

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