OG has been a defensive demon these playoffs.

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Re: OG has been a defensive demon these playoffs. 

Post#81 » by BruttoNostra » Fri May 9, 2025 7:11 am

ChumboChappati wrote:The Knicks have unlocked him, unlike the Raptors, who wasted him all those years.

What a weird take.
The only "unlocked" part is that he plays now for a team with top-3 media exposure in the league.
His RS stats this year aren't significantly different from his last 3 full seasons with Raptors, same with playoffs number this year vs 21-22.
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Re: OG has been a defensive demon these playoffs. 

Post#82 » by BruttoNostra » Fri May 9, 2025 7:24 am

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TwitterFingers wrote:Best 3&D guy in the league

He is an MJ of Dorian Finney-Smiths.

But seriously, sometimes the 3&D term is used too widely these days. Everyone between a superstar and a total scrub is "3&D".
OG might not have Kawhi's bag (a former 3&D turned into a superstar), but his offense is so much more than waiting for an open 3.
He is also SO good on the defensive end, he would be one of those guys to see minutes even if he was Andre Roberson from 3.

No way you can be called a total scrub if you can play really good defense and hit 3 pt shots.
Defenders who can’t shoot are having a hard time getting minutes or even finding a team.
Who are the cheapest 3&D players right now?

I agree as well, but feels like everyone these days is 3&D on this website. I mean, Bruce Brown Jr - excellent player, I like him a lot, but he's 33.5% from 3 so far in his career, shooting over 36% just once (to be fair, he was 35.8% while at Nugggets). And I saw plenty of posts calling him 3&D.
Is he a total liability from deep? No, but he is still well below average shooter.
Edit: not saying he is a scrub - vice versa, he is a good player, but not in the 3&D category
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Re: OG has been a defensive demon these playoffs. 

Post#83 » by TheRaptor! » Fri May 9, 2025 8:11 am

ChumboChappati wrote:The Knicks have unlocked him, unlike the Raptors, who wasted him all those years.


Its fans like this who makes me cheer against the knicks

talk to me when ya'll win the championship like we did in '19

Our front office has done it and been there, talkin bout wasting OG, foh
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Re: OG has been a defensive demon these playoffs. 

Post#84 » by NoStatsGuy » Fri May 9, 2025 8:15 am

Mister Ze wrote:I don't wanna say OG can defend all 5 positions but he's pretty close to doing so.


he did defend embiid and maxey in last years playoffs. of course not full time. but he made life hell for embiid aswell. im not a huge embiid fan, i wanna be fair tho and also mention, that he played on one leg. but thats neither here or there.

OG CAN defend all 5 positions. if you ask me! :D
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Post#85 » by xinxin » Fri May 9, 2025 9:16 am

Tha Cynic wrote:He has been doing this for years. People just don't pay attention to the Raptors so he never got any notice.

Siakam, OG, Van Vleet and Norm Powell were all on the Raptors championship team that is vastly underrated lol. That was an absolutely elite team.

As I said in another thread, if Kawhi stayed one more year, Raps could have gone back to back


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Re: OG has been a defensive demon these playoffs. 

Post#86 » by gavran » Fri May 9, 2025 10:42 am

TheRaptor! wrote:
ChumboChappati wrote:The Knicks have unlocked him, unlike the Raptors, who wasted him all those years.


Its fans like this who makes me cheer against the knicks

talk to me when ya'll win the championship like we did in '19

Our front office has done it and been there, talkin bout wasting OG, foh

Non-Knicks fans make you cheer against the Knicks? Makes sense, I hate the Raptors because of Portland fans too.
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Re: OG has been a defensive demon these playoffs. 

Post#87 » by Duffman100 » Fri May 9, 2025 12:29 pm

ChumboChappati wrote:The Knicks have unlocked him, unlike the Raptors, who wasted him all those years.


.9 more ppg, unlocked!!!
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Post#88 » by Kobe187 » Fri May 9, 2025 10:29 pm

OG & Bridges, straight lockdown Defence.
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Post#89 » by Wargreymon » Sat May 10, 2025 1:39 am

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Post#90 » by LFGK » Sat May 10, 2025 1:50 am

TheRaptor! wrote:
ChumboChappati wrote:The Knicks have unlocked him, unlike the Raptors, who wasted him all those years.


Its fans like this who makes me cheer against the knicks

talk to me when ya'll win the championship like we did in '19

Our front office has done it and been there, talkin bout wasting OG, foh


But I mean dude isn't wrong, they have given him more responsibility on the offensive end and not just relegated to a corner 3D guy
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Re: OG has been a defensive demon these playoffs. 

Post#91 » by LFGK » Sat May 10, 2025 1:51 am

gavran wrote:
TheRaptor! wrote:
ChumboChappati wrote:The Knicks have unlocked him, unlike the Raptors, who wasted him all those years.


Its fans like this who makes me cheer against the knicks

talk to me when ya'll win the championship like we did in '19

Our front office has done it and been there, talkin bout wasting OG, foh

Non-Knicks fans make you cheer against the Knicks? Makes sense, I hate the Raptors because of Portland fans too.


This made me lol :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: OG has been a defensive demon these playoffs. 

Post#92 » by Duffman100 » Sat May 10, 2025 1:55 am

LFGK wrote:
TheRaptor! wrote:
ChumboChappati wrote:The Knicks have unlocked him, unlike the Raptors, who wasted him all those years.


Its fans like this who makes me cheer against the knicks

talk to me when ya'll win the championship like we did in '19

Our front office has done it and been there, talkin bout wasting OG, foh


But I mean dude isn't wrong, they have given him more responsibility on the offensive end and not just relegated to a corner 3D guy


Have they? Again he's scoring .9 ppg more in the regular season and his Usage rate and Iso% seems relatively the same.

I think, in fact, he is wrong. :lol:
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Post#93 » by PushDaRock » Sat May 10, 2025 2:05 am

I'm just glad we aren't hearing how he is overpaid anymore. People get to see how valuable what he does is now for a deep playoff run.

He's in my opinion the best wing defender in the entire league and an above average offensive player at the same time.

It's really hard to find 2 way players, finding one that is elite at one thing and above average at another is even more difficult. Those players tend to get paid.
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Re: OG has been a defensive demon these playoffs. 

Post#94 » by LFGK » Sat May 10, 2025 2:17 am

Duffman100 wrote:
LFGK wrote:
TheRaptor! wrote:
Its fans like this who makes me cheer against the knicks

talk to me when ya'll win the championship like we did in '19

Our front office has done it and been there, talkin bout wasting OG, foh


But I mean dude isn't wrong, they have given him more responsibility on the offensive end and not just relegated to a corner 3D guy


Have they? Again he's scoring .9 ppg more in the regular season and his Usage rate and Iso% seems relatively the same.

I think, in fact, he is wrong. :lol:


I mean yeah they have, since Brunson was injured until now there has been a huge difference in how he's being used.
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Post#95 » by Duffman100 » Sat May 10, 2025 2:31 am

LFGK wrote:
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LFGK wrote:
But I mean dude isn't wrong, they have given him more responsibility on the offensive end and not just relegated to a corner 3D guy


Have they? Again he's scoring .9 ppg more in the regular season and his Usage rate and Iso% seems relatively the same.

I think, in fact, he is wrong. :lol:


I mean yeah they have, since Brunson was injured until now there has been a huge difference in how he's being used.


So when a major usage player went down, OG's usage increased....?
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Post#96 » by LFGK » Sat May 10, 2025 2:33 am

Duffman100 wrote:
LFGK wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Have they? Again he's scoring .9 ppg more in the regular season and his Usage rate and Iso% seems relatively the same.

I think, in fact, he is wrong. :lol:


I mean yeah they have, since Brunson was injured until now there has been a huge difference in how he's being used.


So when a major usage player went down, OG's usage increased....?


Brother have you watched any Knick games or we just talkin to talk?
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Post#97 » by Duffman100 » Sat May 10, 2025 2:37 am

LFGK wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
LFGK wrote:
I mean yeah they have, since Brunson was injured until now there has been a huge difference in how he's being used.


So when a major usage player went down, OG's usage increased....?


Brother have you watched any Knick games or we just talkin to talk?


You don't think this exact same thing happened with the Raptors when players went down...?
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Post#98 » by tamaraw08 » Sat May 10, 2025 4:54 am

BruttoNostra wrote:
tamaraw08 wrote:
BruttoNostra wrote:He is an MJ of Dorian Finney-Smiths.

But seriously, sometimes the 3&D term is used too widely these days. Everyone between a superstar and a total scrub is "3&D".
OG might not have Kawhi's bag (a former 3&D turned into a superstar), but his offense is so much more than waiting for an open 3.
He is also SO good on the defensive end, he would be one of those guys to see minutes even if he was Andre Roberson from 3.

No way you can be called a total scrub if you can play really good defense and hit 3 pt shots.
Defenders who can’t shoot are having a hard time getting minutes or even finding a team.
Who are the cheapest 3&D players right now?

I agree as well, but feels like everyone these days is 3&D on this website. I mean, Bruce Brown Jr - excellent player, I like him a lot, but he's 33.5% from 3 so far in his career, shooting over 36% just once (to be fair, he was 35.8% while at Nugggets). And I saw plenty of posts calling him 3&D.
Is he a total liability from deep? No, but he is still well below average shooter.
Edit: not saying he is a scrub - vice versa, he is a good player, but not in the 3&D category

Bruce Brown is a streaky inconsistent shooter who can’t be called a 3&D shooter and yet cannot be classified as a total scrub imo, Same with Smart, GP2, Derrick Jones Jr. Dunn etc.
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Post#99 » by Courtside » Sat May 10, 2025 5:00 am

LFGK wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
LFGK wrote:
I mean yeah they have, since Brunson was injured until now there has been a huge difference in how he's being used.


So when a major usage player went down, OG's usage increased....?


Brother have you watched any Knick games or we just talkin to talk?

It's clear you never bothered to watch any Raptor games. If you did, you wouldn't be make a fool of yourself like this.
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Post#100 » by LFGK » Sat May 10, 2025 5:04 am

Courtside wrote:
LFGK wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
So when a major usage player went down, OG's usage increased....?


Brother have you watched any Knick games or we just talkin to talk?

It's clear you never bothered to watch any Raptor games. If you did, you wouldn't be make a fool of yourself like this.


Sounds good big dawg

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