The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll

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Re: The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll 

Post#81 » by Exp0sed » Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:03 am

pepe1991 wrote:
Calvin Klein wrote:The Michael Jordan of Zoran Dragics


Zoran actually had respectable career in Europe. Matter of fact Zoran is still playing A division now in Croatia. He is well respected veteran.
This guy....
Guy is career 36% FG player in G league ( 5,0 ppg) who tried to play in several countries & leagues in Europe with always same result. Benchwarmer.


Between Bronnie James, Anonimus Antekokunmpos nepotism booms. What's next? Somebody's father will get pro contract? Why stop there. Somebody's granny can be fine backup center.
100% on both issues

Zoran was a legit good player, this is going too far and it's teasing with cap circumvention

Roster spots are also valuable nowadays, spots that can go to youngsters, reclamation projects,wildcards and a ton of competitive guys, some of whom might even carve a real NBA career out being given the chance and the development reseources that come with it. Valuble for the teams too, as they can try to find a diamond in the rough and fill useful roles with guys who are team and cost controlled

Bucks are just making a mockery out of this and like some1 said - where is the line?why not give his grandfather another spot..

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Re: The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll 

Post#82 » by UcanUwill » Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:47 am

pepe1991 wrote:
Calvin Klein wrote:The Michael Jordan of Zoran Dragics


Zoran actually had respectable career in Europe. Matter of fact Zoran is still playing A division now in Croatia. He is well respected veteran.
This guy....
Guy is career 36% FG player in G league ( 5,0 ppg) who tried to play in several countries & leagues in Europe with always same result. Benchwarmer.


Between Bronnie James, Anonimus Antekokunmpos nepotism booms. What's next? Somebody's father will get pro contract? Why stop there. Somebody's granny can be fine backup center.


Yeah, Zoran was way better than any of Giannis' brothers, i do not think he made nba cause of his brother. For Zoran, his skills never translated well in NBA or Euroleague, but guy was very well known player in domestic basketball. Alex couldn't even play in G league, guy is barely a semi pro.
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Post#83 » by Coach Carter » Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:50 am

Alex kounmpo v Bronny garbage time should be fun at least.
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Re: The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll 

Post#84 » by CodeBreaker » Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:53 am

Watch they make a trade package for all 3
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Post#85 » by UcanUwill » Tue Oct 14, 2025 10:00 am

Tim Kempton wrote:Imagine how bad Alex must be if Thanasis is the good brother.

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Both Kostas and Thanasis made Greek NT and were on Euroleague teams. They are not good by top stnadards and shouldn't be in the NBA for sure, but they actual Basketball players. There is a reason why most people haven't even heard of Alex, a lot of people of his talent level aren't even pursuing professional basketball or have secondary careers. He averaged 8 points in Mažeikiai over here in Lithuania, which is actually not terrible, but Mažeikiai is horrible team, I wonder how much a bench player from Mažeikiai even make, like 40k per year at max?
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Re: The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll 

Post#86 » by UcanUwill » Tue Oct 14, 2025 10:10 am

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Mirotic12 wrote:This is an outrageous level of nepotism.

Last year, Alex Antetokounmpo was the worst player on the Greek mid-level club PAOK.

This year, he was the worst player on the Greek mid-level club Aris.

He's at the level of a European national domestic 2nd division player.

This is like Bronny times 10.


It's without doubt nepotism, but more than anything it's Horst doing everything he can to keep his franchise player happy.

From that standpoint, this is simply the new sports world we live in, which includes college players turning into professional athletes who just so happen to take college courses.

I'm in no way knocking anyone getting paid for their services, it's just sports looks different today than it did in years past, and it's more about "what have you done for me lately?"

Maybe I'm the one who's naive and it's same crap, different day.


But it makes Giannis happy and he signs on it, and I think it is bad enough. Pau never wanted his team to sign Adria, I bet he would have blocked the idea even if it was presented at him to make him happy, he would have understand such move would only invite ridicule and is ridiculous.

I really do not get the mindset his bros have, I would hate to be such a nepo baby, I would definitely decline if Giannis told come here I will sign you just cause. I wouldn't want to be that.
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Re: The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll 

Post#87 » by pepe1991 » Tue Oct 14, 2025 10:27 am

He_Got_Game wrote:I'll play Devils advocate here and say that Thanasis is indeed an NBA level player. He's a freak athlete in his own right from what I've seen and he hustles and comes up with loose balls. You can't tell me he's not better than some of the end of the bench scrubs on other teams. I just don't believe that. There's always a place in the NBA for a highly athletic/energy/hustle player. Literally every team needs one.


Let's be real.

Nobody in NBA keeps for 14th- 15th man in rotation 33 years old, 6'6 center who can't either stretch floor nor protect rim. Shoot. Score. Dribble. Or do just about anything but open space dunk on unset defense.

Bucks resigned him after ACL tear at age of 33.

He was rotation body in Greek national laegue and bench player in Euroleague.

Just about any nba team, without *kumpo* suffix to his name would prefer about 100% other Euroleague starters on their nba team over him.

Alex "Kumpo" is unlocking new lows for Bucks, but , Thanasis level nepotism is already pathetic.


2023-24: Thanasis was -40 in plus minus for a season (5th worst)
2022-23: Thanasis was - 114 in plus minus - the worst
2021-22: Thanasis was - 115 in plus minus- 3rd worst

3 years, -269 real plus minus in bit over 100 games played.
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Re: The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll 

Post#88 » by og15 » Tue Oct 14, 2025 10:41 am

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og15 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Both cases are equally pathetic.

In reality, neither Broonie, nor Kostas nor Alex belong even in G league, let alone nba. Nepotism isn't helping Lakers / Bucks, it just puts stain on Giannis & Lebron's legacy as entitled spoiled brats who use power to manipulate teams , hindering chances of own team for winning ,because those guys are nothing but wasted roster spots.

Bronny averaged 23/6/6 with 2 steals on 59.1 TS% in the G-League, he actually does belong there, so this is incorrect. Kostas also averaged 12/7 on 58% FG in his two G-League seasons, so yes, both of those guys are clearly G-League level players, Alex on the other hand has not shown himself to be a pro quality player, but this is also a two way contract, so who cares.

That’s an interesting rounding up job, but in general your point is valid.

I accidentally looked at his per 36, sorry, lol, 22/5/5
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Post#89 » by lambchop » Tue Oct 14, 2025 10:52 am

UcanUwill wrote:
Kent wrote:
Mirotic12 wrote:This is an outrageous level of nepotism.

Last year, Alex Antetokounmpo was the worst player on the Greek mid-level club PAOK.

This year, he was the worst player on the Greek mid-level club Aris.

He's at the level of a European national domestic 2nd division player.

This is like Bronny times 10.


It's without doubt nepotism, but more than anything it's Horst doing everything he can to keep his franchise player happy.

From that standpoint, this is simply the new sports world we live in, which includes college players turning into professional athletes who just so happen to take college courses.

I'm in no way knocking anyone getting paid for their services, it's just sports looks different today than it did in years past, and it's more about "what have you done for me lately?"

Maybe I'm the one who's naive and it's same crap, different day.


But it makes Giannis happy and he signs on it, and I think it is bad enough. Pau never wanted his team to sign Adria, I bet he would have blocked the idea even if it was presented at him to make him happy, he would have understand such move would only invite ridicule and is ridiculous.

I really do not get the mindset his bros have, I would hate to be such a nepo baby, I would definitely decline if Giannis told come here I will sign you just cause. I wouldn't want to be that.


Which team would Pau have made sign Adria? Barcelona? Girona? Tarragona?

Pau didn't have that kind of NBA clout to get random family members on the team. He's an ATG European player but no NBA team is going out of its way to please him like that.

I applaud you for the anti nepotism stance. Personally, I think it's pretty normal in families and companies where easy work opportunities are simply passed on within the family.

If I'm Giannis, I can understand preferring to be around your own family members at work, as opposed to spending time with strangers you don't even like.
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Re: The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll 

Post#90 » by UcanUwill » Tue Oct 14, 2025 11:32 am

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UcanUwill wrote:
Kent wrote:
It's without doubt nepotism, but more than anything it's Horst doing everything he can to keep his franchise player happy.

From that standpoint, this is simply the new sports world we live in, which includes college players turning into professional athletes who just so happen to take college courses.

I'm in no way knocking anyone getting paid for their services, it's just sports looks different today than it did in years past, and it's more about "what have you done for me lately?"

Maybe I'm the one who's naive and it's same crap, different day.


But it makes Giannis happy and he signs on it, and I think it is bad enough. Pau never wanted his team to sign Adria, I bet he would have blocked the idea even if it was presented at him to make him happy, he would have understand such move would only invite ridicule and is ridiculous.

I really do not get the mindset his bros have, I would hate to be such a nepo baby, I would definitely decline if Giannis told come here I will sign you just cause. I wouldn't want to be that.


Which team would Pau have made sign Adria? Barcelona? Girona? Tarragona?

Pau didn't have that kind of NBA clout to get random family members on the team. He's an ATG European player but no NBA team is going out of its way to please him like that.

I applaud you for the anti nepotism stance. Personally, I think it's pretty normal in families and companies where easy work opportunities are simply passed on within the family.

If I'm Giannis, I can understand preferring to be around your own family members at work, as opposed to spending time with strangers you don't even like.


I tried comparing this to regular job in my head, and I do not think it is that comparable, because for instance, at least I want to believe that people who get jobs due to their family connections, can still do the job at least, you know what I mean? Maybe in unbiased world they wouldn't be first candidate, but they can still do it. Like, if my cousin offered me a good job in his company, maybe I would take it, but I would make sure I can do the job. If I knew I couldn't, I do not have skills, I wouldn't take the job, especially if it is like based on family members recommendation. Like, I wouldn't want to let people down, and thats how I believe most people are. This is just, here, just sign another one of your bros, everyone involved knows he is not qualified for this at all.

I am not sure if Pau would have such power in the NBA, I am just saying, I doubt he would do such a thing. Most people wouldn't, he was just name that came to mind who had younger brothers who were bad at basektball.. D Wade has his son playing hoops, he has a lot of stocks on NBA team, he didn't force his son on NBA roster, people usually just do not this non sense, the kids and young bros want to have their own achievements also, thats why Seth was never Stephs teammate, he became one now when he proved his own worth. guys like LeBron and Giannis are exceptions and its just sad, you just make your family member into a joke, are they really feel fulfilled by being handed this, it is not their achievement in any way. I don;t know, I just know I wouldn't like it at all if I was in their place, if I was Alex I would have declined and just tried playing in Greek second division or whatever.

Maybe Pau is bad example, because I remembered now, if you remember 2006, everyone complained how Marc Gasol is on Spanish NT cause of nepotism, just to please superstar player, at a time, everyone thought Marc Gasol sucked, he proved all the people wrong years later becoming borderline HOFer, so maybe it wasn't nepotism tho and actual Spanish coaches knew better than fanboys complaining.
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Re: The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll 

Post#91 » by DanoMac » Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:23 pm

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Domejandro wrote:They are pulling out ALL the stops (outside of fielding a decent roster) to keep Giannis in Milwaukee!


What a tired take. Bet the house on the over this season. We're gonna surprise a lot of people.


That roster has 2 legit NBA starters. I guess Kuzma could make it 3 with zero starting calibre guards. Not convinced this is not a bad roster this season.


Never watched AJ Green or Gary Trent Jr eh? You should.
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Post#92 » by DwayneSchintzus » Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:27 pm

they might sign the dad by the Christmas (RIP)
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Re: The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll 

Post#93 » by Johnny Bball » Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:12 pm

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What a tired take. Bet the house on the over this season. We're gonna surprise a lot of people.


That roster has 2 legit NBA starters. I guess Kuzma could make it 3 with zero starting calibre guards. Not convinced this is not a bad roster this season.


Never watched AJ Green or Gary Trent Jr eh? You should.


Yeah, not once did I see Gary Trent Jr play for years for the raps. :roll: No, he is not.
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Post#94 » by Mirotic12 » Tue Oct 14, 2025 3:25 pm

jokeboy86 wrote:
knicksfan974 wrote:Such a weak move, one can just hope that other stars don't start making such demands. Would hate to see more players who absolutely don't deserve it take up much coveted NBA roster spots, just because of nepotism.


If you ask Giannis he'll tell you he's never forced the Bucks to sign his brothers and I actually believe him. I genuinely think you have a small time general manager in addition to panicky ownership that are trying to constantly come up with ways to appease their meal ticket and the prime reason the franchise has been relevant for the longest period of time since the 80s. If you trace the Bucks moves since the Giannis FA talks started years ago it seems like the GM has been just throwing s*** at the wall hoping it pleases Giannis every year. Bucks organization has been guessing because Giannis constantly is talking in a stream of consciousness every year. It's been time to move on for both parties. This is the main reason that I love the way that Pat Riley runs the Heat. Riley is confident in his own abilities to build a winning team so he's never going to let any star player run the entire organization and their operations.


Giannis' brothers have gotten places on the Greek national team over several better players than them for years.

It's not the Bucks.
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Post#95 » by Mirotic12 » Tue Oct 14, 2025 3:30 pm

Calvin Klein wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Calvin Klein wrote:The Michael Jordan of Zoran Dragics


Zoran actually had respectable career in Europe. Matter of fact Zoran is still playing A division now in Croatia. He is well respected veteran.
This guy....
Guy is career 36% FG player in G league ( 5,0 ppg) who tried to play in several countries & leagues in Europe with always same result. Benchwarmer.


Between Bronnie James, Anonimus Antekokunmpos nepotism booms. What's next? Somebody's father will get pro contract? Why stop there. Somebody's granny can be fine backup center.


I was actually meaning in a "favour to your franchise player" sense, not actual talent of the player :D Although that would be Bronny I guess


Zoran was actually a pretty decent player in his prime. He was far better than players like Thanasis and Bronny.
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Post#96 » by Mirotic12 » Tue Oct 14, 2025 3:36 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Tim Kempton wrote:Imagine how bad Alex must be if Thanasis is the good brother.

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Both Kostas and Thanasis made Greek NT and were on Euroleague teams. They are not good by top stnadards and shouldn't be in the NBA for sure, but they actual Basketball players. There is a reason why most people haven't even heard of Alex, a lot of people of his talent level aren't even pursuing professional basketball or have secondary careers. He averaged 8 points in Mažeikiai over here in Lithuania, which is actually not terrible, but Mažeikiai is horrible team, I wonder how much a bench player from Mažeikiai even make, like 40k per year at max?


Kostas and Thanasis are only on the Greek national team because they are Giannis' brothers. Everyone saying otherwise, including the tangent of Greek posters here that defend it, are totally unaware of any Greek players outside of the NBA and Olympiacos and Panathinaikos.

Neither one of them would even get a camp invite on their own.

Every summer there are like 5 or more better Greek players than them that don't even get invited to the national team.

Neither one of them is even remotely near to being one of the 12 best Greek players. Neither one of them has ever been close to being one of the 12 best Greek players.

Neither one of them has ever been close to being one of the 2 to 3 best Greek players at their positions.
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Post#97 » by Calvin Klein » Tue Oct 14, 2025 3:54 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:
Calvin Klein wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Zoran actually had respectable career in Europe. Matter of fact Zoran is still playing A division now in Croatia. He is well respected veteran.
This guy....
Guy is career 36% FG player in G league ( 5,0 ppg) who tried to play in several countries & leagues in Europe with always same result. Benchwarmer.


Between Bronnie James, Anonimus Antekokunmpos nepotism booms. What's next? Somebody's father will get pro contract? Why stop there. Somebody's granny can be fine backup center.


I was actually meaning in a "favour to your franchise player" sense, not actual talent of the player :D Although that would be Bronny I guess


Zoran was actually a pretty decent player in his prime. He was far better than players like Thanasis and Bronny.


Of course he was. I didn't mean to say he wasn't good. Just that he obviously got to Phoenix because of Goran. And this case with Giannis is even more obvious.
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Post#98 » by Calvin Klein » Tue Oct 14, 2025 3:57 pm

I dont undestand what good comes out of this for them though. For Giannis, tt seems quite selfish and not at all in the best interest of the team to do this. I know it's just a two way, but if you actually cared that much about winning, you would not get in the way of the FO making the best movies possible.

Plus nobody will respect his brother as a player, just like Bronny.
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Post#99 » by GiannisAnte34 » Tue Oct 14, 2025 4:14 pm

Calvin Klein wrote:I dont undestand what good comes out of this for them though. For Giannis, tt seems quite selfish and not at all in the best interest of the team to do this. I know it's just a two way, but if you actually cared that much about winning, you would not get in the way of the FO making the best movies possible.

Plus nobody will respect his brother as a player, just like Bronny.


The difference is Bronny gets real minutes forced by the Lakers

Thanasis and Alex pro gatorade passers that help with shoot arounds etc
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Post#100 » by og15 » Tue Oct 14, 2025 5:18 pm

Calvin Klein wrote:I dont undestand what good comes out of this for them though. For Giannis, tt seems quite selfish and not at all in the best interest of the team to do this. I know it's just a two way, but if you actually cared that much about winning, you would not get in the way of the FO making the best movies possible.

Plus nobody will respect his brother as a player, just like Bronny.

Giannis said, hey, my brother sucks, can you get him in the G-league so he can try to get better and I can work with him, and they said, "sure, we can put him on a two way".

Two way players are your 16, 17 and 18th men on the team

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