tsherkin wrote:Both of these posts can be summarized as "I whine when the player doesn't aesthetically please me." Which is unfortunate, because it exhibits a grand lack of appreciation for talent and achievement. I feel bad for both of you, in your inability to appreciate what you're watching. And further for your inability to appreciate the nuance and ability both Lebron and Shaq evidenced. Wishing for a player to retire because you don't enjoy their aesthetic is crappy behavior.
The idea that Lebron hasn't "come up with a move" is ignorant nonsense, because most players don't invent anything new. The idea that he has no moves is also evidence that a person has literally no idea what they're talking about, or being pejoratively melodramatic for effect, which is basically as bad.
Using simple stuff to succeed isn't bad. It's quite the opposite. Not everyone is going to be daft enough to make life harder for themselves by taking ill-advised shots against extra defensive coverage for no valid reason just to please fans. That's stupid basketball.
Well I never said "invent", I said "come up with a move", as in coming up with your signature move...
bonita_the_frog wrote:When I say "come up with a move" I mean a move that becomes their signature, not a move invented that nobody has ever done before...
infinite11285 wrote:bonita_the_frog wrote:PistolPeteJR wrote:
Now this is one I haven’t heard before in the LeBron vs Jordan debate. Keep trolling lol.
Jordan's big hands made him one of the most entertaining passers of all-time.
I guess you never saw Jordan play, other than scoring highlights...
Everything Jordan did was graceful and creative, and his passing was full of deception.
I don't need to troll, because I watch basketball, and at home we have hundreds of Jordan games...
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This is the kind of comment that sounds like normal basketball talk at first but ends up feeling more like low-key trolling. It’s not just saying Jordan or Magic were flashier — it’s written to provoke anyone who likes LeBron.
Calling LeBron a “boring passer” or saying even his shooting motion is boring isn’t real analysis — it’s just meant to get a rise out of people. You can prefer Jordan’s or Magic’s style without pretending LeBron’s passing is somehow dull. The guy’s one of the best in history at reading defenses and creating looks nobody else sees.
And the whole “I don’t need to troll, I just watch basketball” thing from before pretty much gives it away — it’s that passive-aggressive “I know more than you” tone. It’s not about the game anymore, it’s about flexing taste and authority.
So yeah, it’s classic disguised trolling: opinion mixed with ego, designed to look insightful but really just baiting people into arguing. It’s the reason you're on your 5th or 6th account.
That's an extraordinary amount of bullying in one post, especially since all I'm doing is posting my HONEST opinion, which is based on me watching basketball A LOT everyday, from DVDs of multiple decades collected (and transferred from vhs) by my family.
And many times in my life I've called LeBron's passing "boring", because we have A LOT of basketball discussions in our family and LeBron's passing has consistently been compared to Magic Johnson's passing...
That's why I said LeBron's passing is more like Stockton's passing, than Magic's passing.
Stockton, one of the best passers in NBA history, so is that comparison really a problem for you?
I shouldn't even be replying to your post, which is not a basketball post, its literally a personal attack and you are clearly trying to get a rise out of me... so no chance of me replying to you ever again, since my honest basketball opinion will just be called "trolling".
