How many years are we away from sports betting becoming a national epidemic?

[GeorgeMarcus]

0 years

I am a high school teacher and see first hand how early these kids (including freshmen) get sucked into it. I'm speaking hypocritically because I also have been "sucked in" through no fault but my own, but I am 34 years old on a livable salary. I can't imagine how volatile these situations can be for kids making $12/hr and how dangerous it is in the sense of habit building

[sikma42]

I do sports betting but ethically I see how it is hurting a lot of people right now. I have discipline, strategy, etc so it’s different - but even me if I lose a bit I do start to question if I should continue or if it is hurting me. DraftKings and mist every site at least are very transparent about how much you win / lose. You can easily check your yearly or lifetime stats from account page - I’m in the green, but I would advise anybody to check that to see if you’re in the red and losing because for some they can be blinded by their wins and not realize they’re losing a ton too.

I’ll add this too - I typically bet only games this year including preseason. Book is underrating his scoring imo based off last years yearly stats not realizing he’s trending up) ... This yields more confidence in the bet. Unless you’re a professional gambler, using math, etc - those that bet + bets a night are in the end just gonna lose because no way you’re gonna come out ahead with that strategy. Book always wins in the end UNLESS there is very specific strategy, and calculated bets placed. I never just bet based off gut/instinct , that has to be combined with statistical predictions too.

“Only five bets a night”

From an outsider that sounds like an addiction


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[PushDaRock]

Trying to remember seeing one...but I think much like a beer ad. It's ok to have them. It's not ok for them to be in settings that are likely to be seen by kids. Youtube already has a filter you just say your content isn't for kids and then you can talk about alcohol for example. I'd say the lottery should be the same thing.

Well, there definitely are lottery ads on TV.

I think there's already a filter to opt out of seeing gambling ads on Youtube. When they put the ad in the actual video itself though, you need 3rd party software to skip it like SponsorBlock.

Well, if youtube were to not allow monetization if there's an ad for that product. Problem solved. Again already done for alcohol. And if there are lottery ads ok. But are there lottery ads on nicalodean?

No, there aren't ads for the lottery on Nickelodean. Likewise, YT channels targeted ONLY at children don't run sports gambling ads either. That's not the targeted demographic obviously. Where things get blurry is the more general content with a wide range of demographics where kids may end up watching in addition to adults.

[dhsilv2]

I do sports betting but ethically I see how it is hurting a lot of people right now. I have discipline, strategy, etc so it’s different - but even me if I lose a bit I do start to question if I should continue or if it is hurting me. DraftKings and mist every site at least are very transparent about how much you win / lose. You can easily check your yearly or lifetime stats from account page - I’m in the green, but I would advise anybody to check that to see if you’re in the red and losing because for some they can be blinded by their wins and not realize they’re losing a ton too.

I’ll add this too - I typically bet only 1-3 bets at most each night (Ex: Tonight Bryce Sensabaugh 12+ p, -117 I did. 12+ in all 5 games this year including preseason. Book is underrating his scoring imo based off last years yearly stats not realizing he’s trending up) ... This yields more confidence in the bet. Unless you’re a professional gambler, using math, etc - those that bet 50+ bets a night are in the end just gonna lose because no way you’re gonna come out ahead with that strategy. Book always wins in the end UNLESS there is very specific strategy, and calculated bets placed. I never just bet based off gut/instinct , that has to be combined with statistical predictions too.

If I wanted to write what a gambling problem would look like. I'd just send them to read this...

[BrianInPhilly]

I do sports betting but ethically I see how it is hurting a lot of people right now. I have discipline, strategy, etc so it’s different - but even me if I lose a bit I do start to question if I should continue or if it is hurting me. DraftKings and mist every site at least are very transparent about how much you win / lose. You can easily check your yearly or lifetime stats from account page - I’m in the green, but I would advise anybody to check that to see if you’re in the red and losing because for some they can be blinded by their wins and not realize they’re losing a ton too.

I’ll add this too - I typically bet only 1-3 bets at most each night (Ex: Tonight Bryce Sensabaugh 12+ p, -117 I did. 12+ in all 5 games this year including preseason. Book is underrating his scoring imo based off last years yearly stats not realizing he’s trending up) ... This yields more confidence in the bet. Unless you’re a professional gambler, using math, etc - those that bet 50+ bets a night are in the end just gonna lose because no way you’re gonna come out ahead with that strategy. Book always wins in the end UNLESS there is very specific strategy, and calculated bets placed. I never just bet based off gut/instinct , that has to be combined with statistical predictions too.

If I wanted to write what a gambling problem would look like. I'd just send them to read this...

Lol. Appreciate the feedback. So I am addicted to making money? As I said every bettor can look at their yearly/lifetime winnings in the account page. If someone is in the green that is a totally different scenario than someone in the red and just willfully betting / losing money.

You don't know me and my mathematical background. Everybody is different. I stated in my post that sports betting is addictive/bad for 95% of people, but to act like it is 100% is just hyperbole.

But thank you for your feedback.

[Johnny Bball]

I do sports betting but ethically I see how it is hurting a lot of people right now. I have discipline, strategy, etc so it’s different - but even me if I lose a bit I do start to question if I should continue or if it is hurting me. DraftKings and mist every site at least are very transparent about how much you win / lose. You can easily check your yearly or lifetime stats from account page - I’m in the green, but I would advise anybody to check that to see if you’re in the red and losing because for some they can be blinded by their wins and not realize they’re losing a ton too.

I’ll add this too - I typically bet only 1-3 bets at most each night (Ex: Tonight Bryce Sensabaugh 12+ p, -117 I did. 12+ in all 5 games this year including preseason. Book is underrating his scoring imo based off last years yearly stats not realizing he’s trending up) ... This yields more confidence in the bet. Unless you’re a professional gambler, using math, etc - those that bet 50+ bets a night are in the end just gonna lose because no way you’re gonna come out ahead with that strategy. Book always wins in the end UNLESS there is very specific strategy, and calculated bets placed. I never just bet based off gut/instinct , that has to be combined with statistical predictions too.

I used to only bet when I saw a line that look egregiously bad/downright dumb mistake and almost only basketball since its the most predictable and I know it best. Maybe one or two games a week for a small sum of 10 bucks, to see if I could be a consistent winner. I was, it wasn't much but a few hundred over a year. Then they just fed me lines of -120 and plus 120, instead of 110. Never saw 110 again. I just stopped betting. Nobody is going to beat a 20% rake.

Even if you win, they will try and make sure you lose. Because I'm pretty certain everyone else wasn't seeing 120 both sides, because who would bet that.

[Old_Blue]

Addicts gonna addict. Whether it's alcohol, drugs, tobacco products, gambling, sex or something else. They're all hell bent on self destruction. And, nobody can help them but them. Many a good spouse and undeserving children have been sucked into the void created by an addict's chaos. The best thing to do is to get out of there ASAP and leave behind no forwarding address. Eventually, the addict will hit rock bottom and maybe seek help. But, they'll remain a threat to relapse for the remainder of their life. Hence the term addict and not ex-addict.

[ChumboChappati]

My old man yelling at the clouds take is they should outlaw betting apps. If you want to place a sportsbet, get in a car and drive down to the track or casino like a normal degenerate.

love the use of degenerate here

[Prestige]

The problem is companies have figured out psychological hacks. They’ve figured out optimal marketing strategies. And even worse UX/UI and Algorithmic strategies from social media companies to attract, retain and exploit people’s attention. With gambling being normalized and legalized everywhere this has now been turned towards extracting money from people. It will get a lot worse and soon you’ll see horrific incidents from it, not to mention youth and teens doing it under the table.

[Xatticus]

Already a national epidemic with young people. I swear boomers are determined to rob Gen X, millennials and Gen Z of their wealth before they die.


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There are almost 1,000 billionaires in the USA. Elon Musk’s net worth is half of a trillion. You blame grandmas.

[Statlanta]

What gets me is not the Bill Simmons/adult podcasters of the world doing the advertising or even the NBA but the young high school to college aged YouTubers playing 2K or showing NBA highlights that's advertising Underdog, HardRock or Kalshi or Bovada.

That and the horrible trends in the economy is what have me worried about our future.

[WestbrookGOATed]

Epidemic???

An epidemic is when a disease spreads rapidly, affecting a disproportionately large number of people in a specific community, population, or region. Unlike a pandemic, which is a global epidemic, an epidemic is limited to a smaller geographic area.

Actually, an extremely well used word for this.

Its called self control. Some people have it some people don't. I hope my parlay hits today.

[JackTalkThai]

Sports betting isn't an issue. Sport rigging IS what has to be prevented.

Meth isn’t an issue. Meth abuse is what needs to be prevented.

[sikma42]

Epidemic???

An epidemic is when a disease spreads rapidly, affecting a disproportionately large number of people in a specific community, population, or region. Unlike a pandemic, which is a global epidemic, an epidemic is limited to a smaller geographic area.

Actually, an extremely well used word for this.

Its called self control. Some people have it some people don't. I hope my parlay hits today.

People generally assume they have more control over their actions then they do.


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[Guardia]

Just look what happened in China before they banned gambling from the entire country.
Gambling is the biggest disease and the NBA/broadcoasters advertising it just shows you how much they care about the people. I also think that the bookies have so much power.

[Michael Bradley]

I just came home from the gym where the guys I see there everyday were discussing the NBA drama. Once that was done, they spent the next 10 minutes talking about the bets they made for the World Series, NFL, College, etc.

We're there now.

[dhsilv2]

Epidemic???

An epidemic is when a disease spreads rapidly, affecting a disproportionately large number of people in a specific community, population, or region. Unlike a pandemic, which is a global epidemic, an epidemic is limited to a smaller geographic area.

Actually, an extremely well used word for this.

Its called self control. Some people have it some people don't. I hope my parlay hits today.

Yeah...and some people can stop drinking and others can't. Some people don't get sick easily and some do.

[dautjazz]

I stay away from gambling because I'd probably make a lot of decisions with my heart and not my head. That was definitely a detriment to me back when I used to play fantasy basketball.

[shrink]

-1 year