Lakers offense since Bron's return

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Re: Lakers offense since Bron's return 

Post#81 » by Slimjimzv » Mon Dec 1, 2025 5:33 pm

John Murdoch wrote:OKC punked us tho, not convinced until we get a big defensive wing that can atleast be a 3pt threat like an OG Ananoby type


I wouldn't put too much stock into that game. Hopefully, they meet in in the NBA Cup Semifinals. That should give a better idea of how they match up (as long as both teams are healthy). The more the Lakers play together, the better they look.
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Re: Lakers offense since Bron's return 

Post#82 » by John Murdoch » Tue Dec 2, 2025 8:58 pm

Slimjimzv wrote:
John Murdoch wrote:OKC punked us tho, not convinced until we get a big defensive wing that can atleast be a 3pt threat like an OG Ananoby type


I wouldn't put too much stock into that game. Hopefully, they meet in in the NBA Cup Semifinals. That should give a better idea of how they match up (as long as both teams are healthy). The more the Lakers play together, the better they look.


Ok , howbout the suns game?
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Re: Lakers offense since Bron's return 

Post#84 » by JellosJigglin » Tue Dec 2, 2025 11:09 pm

John Murdoch wrote:
Slimjimzv wrote:
John Murdoch wrote:OKC punked us tho, not convinced until we get a big defensive wing that can atleast be a 3pt threat like an OG Ananoby type


I wouldn't put too much stock into that game. Hopefully, they meet in in the NBA Cup Semifinals. That should give a better idea of how they match up (as long as both teams are healthy). The more the Lakers play together, the better they look.


Ok , howbout the suns game?


No one played well that game. 3rd game in 4 nights. If they gave an effort and lost I'd be concerned but it was one of those throwaway games that you just flush and move on. I still think they're right around 52 wins assuming they are relatively healthy. A lot of underdogs won last night. Weird night.
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Re: Lakers offense since Bron's return 

Post#85 » by cupcakesnake » Tue Dec 2, 2025 11:58 pm

Lakers are winning so everything is good but if they weren't, someone could make a topic titled:
Lakers defense since Bron's return


The Lakers offense indeed goes through the roof with Lebron on the floor (126 Ortg!!! vs. 118.3 when he's off.), but the impact on defense is crazier. The Lakers allow 124 points per 100 in 161 Lebron minutes so far (114.9 without him).

When you factor in both ends, the Lakers are playing slightly worse with Lebron.

They've played a bottom 5 quality schedule. At some point things will get tough, and that's when we'll find out if the Lakers are real. For what it's worth, I think the offense is obviously real. Luka/Reaves/Lebron is simply a hilarious amount of playmaking firepower, shooting, and rim pressure. The defense is a problem though. Their 3 best players are all very slow.
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Re: Lakers offense since Bron's return 

Post#86 » by VanWest82 » Wed Dec 3, 2025 12:09 am

Not sure whether this is being discussed or entirely worthy of discussion but seeing as Bron is clearly in his 'old man backing out of the driveway' phase of os his career, I'm just going to leave this here...

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Re: Lakers offense since Bron's return 

Post#87 » by Anderson Hunt » Wed Dec 3, 2025 12:33 am

cupcakesnake wrote:Lakers are winning so everything is good but if they weren't, someone could make a topic titled:
Lakers defense since Bron's return


The Lakers offense indeed goes through the roof with Lebron on the floor (126 Ortg!!! vs. 118.3 when he's off.), but the impact on defense is crazier. The Lakers allow 124 points per 100 in 161 Lebron minutes so far (114.9 without him).

When you factor in both ends, the Lakers are playing slightly worse with Lebron.

They've played a bottom 5 quality schedule. At some point things will get tough, and that's when we'll find out if the Lakers are real. For what it's worth, I think the offense is obviously real. Luka/Reaves/Lebron is simply a hilarious amount of playmaking firepower, shooting, and rim pressure. The defense is a problem though. Their 3 best players are all very slow.

Very informative. Perhaps they should consider bringing him off the bench.

I know that would be a seismic and cataclysmic move, but in the name of winning, it might just be the best move for the Lakers.

If he pouts, so what. It'll be all over the news, but as you said, they're better (slightly) without him, so if he goes into his fake injury bag hoping for a trade partner, let him sit and wait for trade that will not happen this season.

There are a handful of teams that could use him, but practically none that can match his salary. He's a Laker this season whether he's happy or not. The Lakers have the leverage, so now, unlike any other time in his career, if Reddick wanted to move him to the bench, he'd have to either comply or look like a plum-fool in protestation.

If he were to protest a benching, he could embarrass himself worse than Scottie Poppen taking himself out of the last seconds of the game many years ago. This would be a permanent stain on his legacy.

If I'm the Lakers, I do it. They might as well set the table now for his imminent exit this summer, and it just might make them more lethal and balanced.
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Re: Lakers offense since Bron's return 

Post#88 » by Slimjimzv » Wed Dec 3, 2025 5:40 pm

John Murdoch wrote:
Slimjimzv wrote:
John Murdoch wrote:OKC punked us tho, not convinced until we get a big defensive wing that can atleast be a 3pt threat like an OG Ananoby type


I wouldn't put too much stock into that game. Hopefully, they meet in in the NBA Cup Semifinals. That should give a better idea of how they match up (as long as both teams are healthy). The more the Lakers play together, the better they look.


Ok , howbout the suns game?


Some red flags in that game, but primarily LeBron. He looked old and uninterested. That being said, his salary dropping off either next season or via trade would open up some interesting options for the purple and gold.
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Re: Lakers offense since Bron's return 

Post#89 » by Ice Man » Wed Dec 3, 2025 6:00 pm

Slimjimzv wrote:Some red flags in that game, but primarily LeBron. He looked old and uninterested.


Old and uninterested, or realistic that as a 40 year old he's a side piece for the team, not its driving force? I don't know the answer to that question, but it's what I ask myself when I see him backing away from 1v1 confrontations and passing the ball. I mean, the other night he had a teenage rookie on him (Flagg) and just moved the ball, rather than trying to take the kid on off the dribble.
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Re: Lakers offense since Bron's return 

Post#90 » by Slimjimzv » Wed Dec 3, 2025 6:03 pm

Ice Man wrote:
Slimjimzv wrote:Some red flags in that game, but primarily LeBron. He looked old and uninterested.


Old and uninterested, or realistic that as a 40 year old he's a side piece for the team, not its driving force? I don't know the answer to that question, but it's what I ask myself when I see him backing away from 1v1 confrontations and passing the ball. I mean, the other night he had a teenage rookie on him (Flagg) and just moved the ball, rather than trying to take the kid on off the dribble.


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