Carter for Odom + Farmar

Jules Winnfield · Post #81 » by **Jules Winnfield** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:12 am

I would not do the initial deal. Jordan Farmar is a deal breaker.

Since the Nets are the ones in a position to deal from desperation, I'd tell them we'd give them Odom, the grizzlies second rounder and a resigned Shammond Williams for Carter. I'd also remind them that that is more than they paid for Carter in their original trade.

The reason I'd do it is because Lamar can't shoot and Kobe Bryant is far far far more efficient as a SF than he is as a SG. Vince is a superb 3 ball shooter and has athleticism to thrive is the quick pass Laker offense.

The reason I'd do it financially is that Lamar is going to be asking for 14 mil PER after his current deal is up to resign. Either we get Carter or we'll be looking for someone similar in the near future.

Of course, I'm not going to lose sleep over it and I'm almost certain the Lakers will not trade farmar in ANY deal.

Edit:I might also give em Walton. If building around RJ is their thing, then Walton might be attractive to them and his contract stinks.

Post #82 » by **dockingsched** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:13 am

lakers need a role player to fill the role playing need. there comes a point were a max contract isn't going to give u max value when he's the 4th option.

HarlemHeat37 · Post #83 » by **HarlemHeat37** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:16 am

I still don't understand how a guy that **** on his teammates through an amateur video, and is an alleged rapist, somehow gets good karma and is getting all these good teammates..it makes no sense to me..

Killuminati · Post #84 » by **Killuminati** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:18 am

HarlemHeat37 wrote:I still don't understand how a guy that **** on his teammates through an amateur video, and is an alleged rapist, somehow gets good karma and is getting all these good teammates..it makes no sense to me..

Grab a drink of hater Gatorade there Timmy. Have yourself a seat.

Post #85 » by **tkb** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:19 am

I'd rather go for someone like Battier, Prince, Artest, Marion etc. than someone like Carter if we were to move Odom and any of those are available. Artest would be really nice.

If we were to get a shooter, I'd look for Mike Miller (MEM doesn't want Odom though, so it would have to be a 3-way) instead.

Carter is a good player, but I have questions about the fit. I don't have those same questions regarding any of the other players I mentioned in this post.

GJense4181 · Post #86 » by **GJense4181** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:22 am

LA wouldn't have a backup PG after this trade.

telele · Post #87 » by **telele** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:26 am

Getting a Back up PG is not as heard as finding a superstar player with great scoring and passing skills, when you have Kobe, Fisher and Vince you will not need a back up PG as much as you think even though if they get carter it would be something they want to address and then pg does not have to be super great.

HarlemHeat37 · Post #88 » by **HarlemHeat37** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:27 am

Killuminati wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Grab a drink of hater Gatorade there Timmy. Have yourself a seat.

it's actually Haterade..and I have cases of it..

ClubLakers KB8 · Post #89 » by **ClubLakers KB8** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:34 am

Lakers won't deal Farmar. They chose between him and Crittenton and now they have their future PG. He's cheap, durable, and has championship experience. He's a Laker for a long while.

Odom will be dealt in the summer when he's an expiring. I can see Mike Miller SERIOUSLY being targeted.

LakerFanMan · Post #90 » by **LakerFanMan** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:35 am

Carter + Kobe = huge freakin diaster

Seriously, having both of those guys on the same team is like taking bat, or bomb, to team chemistry. There is absolutly nothing about their games that should make anyone think they would even come close to meshing together on the same team.

Iggyemu · Post #91 » by **Iggyemu** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:37 am

Type of deal that I hope they do. It would negate what they did last week in trading for Pau. Helps us fans of other WC teams feel better about our team's chances this year and years to come.

JordansBulls · Post #92 » by **JordansBulls** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:39 am

This would be a terrible deal for the Lakers. What is the purpose of getting Vince Carter?

I don't even think he and Kobe like one another.

GJense4181 · Post #93 » by **GJense4181** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:39 am

telele wrote:Getting a Back up PG is not as heard as finding a superstar player with great scoring and passing skills, when you have Kobe, Fisher and Vince you will not need a back up PG as much as you think even though if they get carter it would be something they want to address and then pg does not have to be super great.

They'd have to sign one, and the best FA on the market is Gary Payton, who didn't exactly work out in LA last time.
How many new players do you went them to break in at once? Christ.

Jules Winnfield · Post #94 » by **Jules Winnfield** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:40 am

Where did this deal come from? Has anyone heard of it?

telele · Post #95 » by **telele** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:43 am

JordansBulls wrote:This would be a terrible deal for the Lakers. What is the purpose of getting Vince Carter?

I don't even think he and Kobe like one another.

That's not true on the court they may seem to go at each other but they are really cool with each other. Also Vince would allow things to be easier for kobe, he would play with in the system as he is in NJ and allow Kobe to still be the man his ast numbers would look nasty on this laker team and he would still get his 20+ 5 boards a game all in the system so I know he can play and fit with kobe better then Odom.

LakerFanMan · Post #96 » by **LakerFanMan** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:47 am

^^^ What about VC's game makes you think he'd fit well with kobe? Is it when he runs ISO? Or is it when he dribbles around for 15 seconds while he's running ISO?

HarlemHeat37 · Post #97 » by **HarlemHeat37** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:49 am

I've never heard of any hatred between VC and Kobe..

on the court is meaningless..VC always goes at it with extra effort vs. the best swingmen in the NBA..

CITYOFANGELSX3 · Post #98 » by **CITYOFANGELSX3** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:50 am

Horrible deal. The lakers are currently better than they would be with VC. Teams need specific areas to win. Defense, rebounding, scoring, bench. Having 5 scores on the floor wont have good nucleus whatsoever.

incontrol__ · Post #99 » by **incontrol__** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:54 am

tkb wrote:I'd rather go for someone like Battier, Prince, Artest, Marion etc. than someone like Carter if we were to move Odom and any of those are available. Artest would be really nice.

If we were to get a shooter, I'd look for Mike Miller (MEM doesn't want Odom though, so it would have to be a 3-way) instead.

Pretty much totally agree..

And, wow. Your sig is amazing.

etopn23 · Post #100 » by **etopn23** » Tue Feb 5, 2008 12:56 am

LakerFanMan wrote:^^^ What about VC's game makes you think he'd fit well with kobe? Is it when he runs ISO? Or is it when he dribbles around for 15 seconds while he's running ISO?

I've already responded to this in my original post. I have a question for you - when's the last time you actually watched Carter play?

Some of the misconceptions about his play is ridiculous. Most of them are coming from you. :lol: