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PPAW4Life wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Yes he does step back but he is still dribbling.
His dribble stops when he puts both hands on the ball and up fakes.
At this time both his left and right foot are on the ground he has YET to establish which foot is his pivot foot.
From this point on he only moves his left foot.
It's still NOT a travel.
tracey_nice wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
You've never played basketball before, have you?
PPAW4Life wrote:tracey_nice wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
You've never played basketball before, have you?
Dude no official has the benefit of instant replay.
If you want to be strictly technical about the rules then palming happens every time a player tries to do a cross-over.
Every time a player dribbles and it hits any part of his body then its suppose to be a travel.
None of these little things are called because there's a human element to this game. No one can pin point the exact moment a player stops his dribble or decides he's shooting.
Do you know how many ridiculous "continuation" plays are allowed?
How about the "act of shooting" foul? There are hundreds of rules and plays that have reasonable levels of interpretation when its being called as action is live.
Kobe plants his left foot as his last dribble is coming up....his right foot lands then he goes for an up fake.
There is no pivot foot established yet until he moves his left...the only foot he moves.
tracey_nice wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
The first part of your post sounds like your conceding the argument, then you try to say that no pivot foot is established, when clearly a pivot is a established, just give up; you are wrong!
PPAW4Life wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
It doesn't matter his left foot landed first since he had another dribble after his behind the back dribble.
Once he picks up his dribble and has control both feet are already in place and on the ground with no pivot established.
It's definitely not a travel.
.[/list]Death Knight wrote:Travel.
Not only did he established his left foot as his initial pivot foot, because he lifted his right foot, but he already travelled when he made a split just before he changed his pivot foot to the right foot and took a final step with the left foot.
1. In control with 2 hands on the ball and establishes left foot.
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2. The split.
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3. Right foot becomes new pivot.
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4. Final step with left foot.
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If after all that it's not a travel, then I
Mumbles wrote:lol go out in your driveway and perform that same move. Better yet tape it and see how fast you bust it out. I bet it would look like a garbage player taking 3 steps because we don't have Kobe's elite smoothness and world class footwork. Hell, you don't even need a ball, stand up right now and perform a left step back off the dribble, and tell me if you land on your right foot first. Please...Kobe had to plant his right foot to get the back force, then he *landed* on his left foot making that his pivot . Just because he switched to his right so damn quick after the ball fake doesn't make it a legal play.
Kobe knows that's a tough call for the refs no doubt because everyone in the world respects his ill ball and shot fakes. So when he shows the ball for a split second, everyone's eyes is on that and he can do a quick pivot switcharoo with few knowing at real time.
