Rookie Play, Highlights & Discussion

[Marcus]

Maxey with 13 points at half time. The guy has been balling lately. The best rookie on a contending team thus far.

Is the full roster back?

[LordCovington33]

Maxey with 13 points at half time. The guy has been balling lately. The best rookie on a contending team thus far.

Is the full roster back?

Almost ... Seth Curry still out

[Bologna Smasher]

I'm the captain of the Xavier Tillman hype train.
Tillman Sr. with 12 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals, and 3 billion screens.

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It was so obvious before the draft that someone with his intelligence, defense, and skills was going to be a contributing guy in the NBA for a long time. It still blows my mind that he dropped as far as he did. He won't necessarily have gaudy box scores, but he will always be a plus player contributing to wins.

I don't even want to look at it as a Kings fan. He was one of the key guys I wanted in the draft. It was obvious he was going to be a steal. We somehow got Haliburton and then were able to pick Tillman... but traded him.

You guys got a good one.

[amcoolio]

It's hilarious that LaMelo is the best defender of the rookie class so far

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[anotherhomer]

yo dude. congrats to heats for drafting a talented big with playmaking ability
But as a raptors fan, i have to take wiseman long-term over any of these guys

You have to see the videos for yourself to see how high the guy's ceiling is, and not only that, he has a good chance of reaching it if he continues

I'm quite jealous at the Heat for pulling off a very successful tank.

I don't buy the Lamelo is more talented than Wiseman thing

Achiuwa is older but he doesn't have as much basketball experience as most of these other rookies. It's like a Siakam situation. I think you can argue that Achiuwa has more upside than Wiseman. Wiseman has zero playmaking skill while Achiuwa in his first start had 3 assists. Achiuwa is already one of the best offensive rebounding big man in the NBA. He can defend 2-5. He's making over 60% of his shots on 5 attempts per game. How exactly is Wiseman putting up better stats?

Why don't you tell me how Wiseman is not putting up better stats? I can see it for myself in the links I provided.

BTW, neither of them are point guards, so one guy getting three assists in a game doesn't really matter at this point.

I'll take the 7 foot/240lb 19 year old who can block shots, sky above the rim, shoot it from outside, and even handle it pretty damned well.

Anyway, not going to convince you, so let's just see how things go.

Achiuwa is much more efficient than Wiseman and gives you extra opportunities to score. You asked me about stats however you're now saying that Achiuwa's playmaking ability is irrelevant because they're both centers? How is playmaking ability irrelevant for centers? Wiseman being 7-feet tall hardly means anything. Achiuwa is 6-9 which means that he can cover multiple positions. You're only saying that you can't convince me cause you know you have an extremely weak and illogical argument so you're better off just discontinuing it here.

[righterwriter]

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[Alonzo_Morning]

I'm the captain of the Xavier Tillman hype train.
Tillman Sr. with 12 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals, and 3 billion screens.

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It was so obvious before the draft that someone with his intelligence, defense, and skills was going to be a contributing guy in the NBA for a long time. It still blows my mind that he dropped as far as he did. He won't necessarily have gaudy box scores, but he will always be a plus player contributing to wins.

I don't even want to look at it as a Kings fan. He was one of the key guys I wanted in the draft. It was obvious he was going to be a steal. We somehow got Haliburton and then were able to pick Tillman... but traded him.

You guys got a good one.

Look at this grown ass man



He's twenty freakin' two!

[Clocian]

It's hilarious that LaMelo is the best defender of the rookie class so far

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That goes to Pat sir. Who's already been given the responsibility to guard the likes of LeBron, kawhai, Giannis and other top talent

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[Duffman100]

I'm the captain of the Xavier Tillman hype train.
Tillman Sr. with 12 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals, and 3 billion screens.

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It was so obvious before the draft that someone with his intelligence, defense, and skills was going to be a contributing guy in the NBA for a long time. It still blows my mind that he dropped as far as he did. He won't necessarily have gaudy box scores, but he will always be a plus player contributing to wins.

I don't even want to look at it as a Kings fan. He was one of the key guys I wanted in the draft. It was obvious he was going to be a steal. We somehow got Haliburton and then were able to pick Tillman... but traded him.

You guys got a good one.

I desperately wanted the Raptors to get him. We could really use the big man help now.

[KembaWalker]

It's hilarious that LaMelo is the best defender of the rookie class so far

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That goes to Pat sir. Who's already been given the responsibility to guard the likes of LeBron, kawhai, Giannis and other top talent

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Lamelo is 11th in DBPM, with most of the names at the top the guys youd generally expect to see
https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2021_advanced.html

people still are calling him a horrible defender because of..reputation I guess? or him memeing in a video saying he doesn't care about defense when he was a kid.

he's actually been exceptionally good on defense and its time people start to realize it

[rzzzzz]

Maxey with 13 points at half time. The guy has been balling lately. The best rookie on a contending team thus far.

CBS Sports just jumped him to the top of their rookie ladder. Don’t know how legit the rumor that the Rockers demanded him being included in a Harden deal. Probably just speculation. But I’d be hard put to let him go at this point.

[LordCovington33]

Maxey with 13 points at half time. The guy has been balling lately. The best rookie on a contending team thus far.

CBS Sports just jumped him to the top of their rookie ladder. Don’t know how legit the rumor that the Rockers demanded him being included in a Harden deal. Probably just speculation. But I’d be hard put to let him go at this point.

He’s growing in confidence since he got an increase in minutes following the Seth Curry positive test. One good thing that has come out of it.

[LordCovington33]

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[Justin33]

Pritchard with another solid game

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[BugginOut]

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Back to back good games from Quickley 23 points in 28 minutes. He really needs to be starting for the Knicks. Only person on our team that can consistently shoot.

[DarkAzcura]

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I was actually more impressed by his defense on Murray in this video than the dunk, tbh

[_AIJ_]

Wrong thread

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[Clocian]

Another great game by Pat tonight. Just plays like a pro out there. Shot never hits the rim, and is a beast on defense. 5/7 from the field and 2/3 from 3. Imagine what he'll do when he becomes the first option instead of the 5th like he is currently.

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[scrabbarista]

I went back a few pages and didn't see any lists. So who would be on the All Rookie team and ROY so far??

ROY should be Haliburton.

He's leading rookies in ppg, and is 0.2 apg behind LaMelo. His TS% is over .700, while LaMelo's is under .500. Also, Haliburton's team is better (via +/-) when he's on the floor, while LaMelo's is worse.

I'd consider:

First Team

LaMelo Ball
Payton Pritchard
Tyrese Haliburton
Deni Avdija
Precious Achiuwa

Second Team

Tyrese Maxey
Anthony Edwards
Devin Vassell
Isaiah Stewart
Xavier Tillman, Sr.

Wiseman is close enough that I'd almost be fine with him over anyone on the Second Team, but I feel pretty strongly about that First Team (only so far, of course).

Did you forget about PatWill?

Probably, yeah. It's tough. There are a lot of guys, and there isn't a lot to separate them.

[DroseReturnChi]

It's hilarious that LaMelo is the best defender of the rookie class so far

That goes to Pat sir. Who's already been given the responsibility to guard the likes of LeBron, kawhai, Giannis and other top talent

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I thought you mentioned best player. Either way, Lamelo fails both bc its obv PW or Hali.
Lamelo isnt playing lights ahead. Look at his stats compared to NBL and its very similar.
Its borderline criminal PW is shooting less than Hali when he is as good of a shooter if not better on a bottom 5 team.
His defense is elite as expected already guarding mvps but the offense is what shocked Lebron, Kawhi. I would be very surprised if he cannot avg 20/5/5 while making all defensive given that his jumper is more advanced than any superstar at the same age.