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Re: Wembanyama. I'm concerned 

Post#801 » by tsherkin » Wed Mar 6, 2024 2:50 pm

Iwasawitness wrote:THAT is the big thing here. Not what he's capable of doing on the court, but rather, whether or not he can stay on it. My stance has not changed on this and it probably wont for a while. I want to see Wemby stay healthy. That to me is the only thing that can hold him back. Otherwise, he's got a HOF worthy career ahead of him.


That's pretty much where I am.

And the timing of this one is a little specific. He had a rough game. Lots of fouls, lots of turnovers, poor shooting. It happens to everyone. He's been murdering it for like 3 dozen games, he's allowed to have a weak showing now and then, heh. And it's not like the Spurs are any kind of good around him, so he's basically bootstrapping the team at either end.
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Post#802 » by FreeBird23 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:00 pm

Miami_Lux wrote:The 4th quarter against the Rockets is a good example why I m not 100% sure on Wemby's potential as a generational offensive talent. Yes he does incredible highlight reels but he still lacks a go-to-move and tends to disappear in close games down the stretch. I d like to see him be more aggressive and consistent in these moments.


You cannot have one sentence right in this whole thread, right ?
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Post#803 » by CptCrunch » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:06 pm

Bro Wemby is a rookie. We are concerned about a PF/C struggling at times his rookie year as a 19 year old.
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Post#804 » by Jzh » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:23 pm

Miami_Lux wrote:The 4th quarter against the Rockets is a good example why I m not 100% sure on Wemby's potential as a generational offensive talent. Yes he does incredible highlight reels but he still lacks a go-to-move and tends to disappear in close games down the stretch. I d like to see him be more aggressive and consistent in these moments.


I genuinely don't know if you are trolling or not, your take seems so serious. I guess we will see you bump that thread once in a while when he has a night off.
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Post#805 » by Rust_Cohle » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:33 pm

Speaking of wemby being clutch, this was only a few months ago against those very same Rockets:

https://youtu.be/M0khj1Itp-U?si=XvFA1Yl1tOyvMNeg

But of course a username after Harden would struggle with defining clutch.
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Re: Wembanyama. I'm concerned 

Post#806 » by Godymas » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:41 pm

OP has a point, last night Wemby only had 10 points on 40% FG, it was quite alarming. He was 3 blocks short of a triple double, what a shame
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Post#807 » by tsherkin » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:55 pm

Godymas wrote:OP has a point, last night Wemby only had 10 points on 40% FG, it was quite alarming.


He had a rough shooting night, some foul trouble and was struggling a bit. That's not alarming, that's how basketball goes.

Jordan had 2 dozen games with 5+ turnovers in his rookie season, 7 of them with 7 turnovers. He fouled out 4 times. He had 17 games with 5 fouls. He averaged 28.2 ppg and scored under 20 on 9 different occasions. He shot 51.5% from the field and shot less than 40% 10 different times. He had a 4/17 game (23.5%) against Philly in a loss.

Cherry-picking individual games in a rookie season is beyond worthless.
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Post#808 » by Miami_Lux » Wed Mar 6, 2024 10:30 pm

tsherkin wrote:
Godymas wrote:OP has a point, last night Wemby only had 10 points on 40% FG, it was quite alarming.


He had a rough shooting night, some foul trouble and was struggling a bit. That's not alarming, that's how basketball goes.

Jordan had 2 dozen games with 5+ turnovers in his rookie season, 7 of them with 7 turnovers. He fouled out 4 times. He had 17 games with 5 fouls. He averaged 28.2 ppg and scored under 20 on 9 different occasions. He shot 51.5% from the field and shot less than 40% 10 different times. He had a 4/17 game (23.5%) against Philly in a loss.

Cherry-picking individual games in a rookie season is beyond worthless.


I don't even think he had that bad of a shooting night. And that wasn t the issue. I think we are over fixating on the stats right now. The issue was that he was very passive, lacked and still lacks a proper go-to move and got properly manhandled by Sengun (who btw is only a year and a half older than Wemby). Obviously Wemby has a ridiculous ceiling (maybe the biggest any player ever had) but like I said it isn't clear to me just yet whether he will be that generational player. Heck, I don't even know if he is a winning player yet. I think he will be but as of right now he i still very inconsistent.
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Post#809 » by jkvonny » Wed Mar 6, 2024 10:47 pm

He had a sore shoulder from prior game and banged up his hip. Also, Sengun is good himself.

He's not perfect, gonna have some dud games. Doesn't outweigh his historically great pace & accomplishments, though. 20 year old rookie.
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Post#810 » by Iwasawitness » Wed Mar 6, 2024 11:12 pm

tsherkin wrote:
Godymas wrote:OP has a point, last night Wemby only had 10 points on 40% FG, it was quite alarming.


He had a rough shooting night, some foul trouble and was struggling a bit. That's not alarming, that's how basketball goes.

Jordan had 2 dozen games with 5+ turnovers in his rookie season, 7 of them with 7 turnovers. He fouled out 4 times. He had 17 games with 5 fouls. He averaged 28.2 ppg and scored under 20 on 9 different occasions. He shot 51.5% from the field and shot less than 40% 10 different times. He had a 4/17 game (23.5%) against Philly in a loss.

Cherry-picking individual games in a rookie season is beyond worthless.


Godymas wasn't being serious.

...you weren't, right?
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Post#811 » by tsherkin » Wed Mar 6, 2024 11:16 pm

Iwasawitness wrote:Godymas wasn't being serious.

...you weren't, right?


It wasn't a response to him directly, so much as more broadly for the thread. I understand that Godymas was just joking, but others ITT have not been at times.
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Post#812 » by tsherkin » Wed Mar 6, 2024 11:17 pm

Miami_Lux wrote:
I don't even think he had that bad of a shooting night. And that wasn t the issue. I think we are over fixating on the stats right now. The issue was that he was very passive, lacked and still lacks a proper go-to move and got properly manhandled by Sengun (who btw is only a year and a half older than Wemby). Obviously Wemby has a ridiculous ceiling (maybe the biggest any player ever had) but like I said it isn't clear to me just yet whether he will be that generational player. Heck, I don't even know if he is a winning player yet. I think he will be but as of right now he i still very inconsistent.


He was 2/5 inside the arc and took 50% of his shots as 3s; it's okay to acknowledge that it wasn't a good night for him. He was sloppy and in foul trouble and it wasn't a great game for him. Which is fine, it happens. He's barely not a teenager.
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Post#813 » by Dominator83 » Thu Mar 7, 2024 12:26 am

So Sengun took him to school. Welcome to the NBA kid!

Interesting to see how he responds tomorrow vs Sabonis
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Post#814 » by tsherkin » Thu Mar 7, 2024 12:42 am

Dominator83 wrote:So Sengun took him to school. Welcome to the NBA kid!

Interesting to see how he responds tomorrow vs Sabonis


Sengun had one hell of a game, didn't he?
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Post#815 » by zimpy27 » Thu Mar 7, 2024 12:43 am

Yeah Sengun gave him the business, Wemby has had some trouble on big guys that are very talented offensively.

Either Wemby gets bigger or Spurs do end up playing him at PF with a stretch 5.
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Post#816 » by Capn'O » Thu Mar 7, 2024 12:52 am

I'm concerned this dude is gonna run the league and there won't be any championships left for anyone else. Very greedy both of him and the Spurs, frankly.
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Post#817 » by 2LeTTeRS » Thu Mar 7, 2024 12:55 am

zimpy27 wrote:Yeah Sengun gave him the business, Wemby has had some trouble on big guys that are very talented offensively.

Either Wemby gets bigger or Spurs do end up playing him at PF with a stretch 5.


Have you watched him at all this year? He's more productive as a 5 and the team is better with him at that spot as well. Why would you move him back to the 4?
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Post#818 » by tsherkin » Thu Mar 7, 2024 12:58 am

zimpy27 wrote:Yeah Sengun gave him the business, Wemby has had some trouble on big guys that are very talented offensively.

Either Wemby gets bigger or Spurs do end up playing him at PF with a stretch 5.


TBF, he's been rocking like 21/9/5 and shooting 57% inside the arc for the second straight season. Dude was always going to be a problem. Hmm, Sabonis, Jokic, Embiid, I mean there are several guys in the league right now who are a big-time problem to handle.
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Post#819 » by zimpy27 » Thu Mar 7, 2024 1:07 am

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zimpy27 wrote:Yeah Sengun gave him the business, Wemby has had some trouble on big guys that are very talented offensively.

Either Wemby gets bigger or Spurs do end up playing him at PF with a stretch 5.


Have you watched him at all this year? He's more productive as a 5 and the team is better with him at that spot as well. Why would you move him back to the 4?


Yeah, I was the one pushing him to the 5 against the argument of others early in the season.

But if you do watch him you will see he gets bodied by offensively talented bigs. Similarly to KP. Maybe Wemby grows stronger like AD or maybe he needs a 5 next to him so that he can work more as a help defender on the offensively talented bigs.

I'm already thinking about how you go deep in the playoffs with Wemby, what does he need, etc
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Post#820 » by zimpy27 » Thu Mar 7, 2024 1:09 am

tsherkin wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Yeah Sengun gave him the business, Wemby has had some trouble on big guys that are very talented offensively.

Either Wemby gets bigger or Spurs do end up playing him at PF with a stretch 5.


TBF, he's been rocking like 21/9/5 and shooting 57% inside the arc for the second straight season. Dude was always going to be a problem. Hmm, Sabonis, Jokic, Embiid, I mean there are several guys in the league right now who are a big-time problem to handle.



Yeah agreed, it's not even the numbers. Just watching Wemby you could see that there are post moves that these guys don't seem bothered by Wemby on defense.

Wemby may get stronger but if he doesn't then Spurs need to think how to defend these guys.. that's all
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