2024 NBA Summer League! Las Vegas (Championship game tonight July 22: Grizzlies vs Heat) HEAT WIN!

[scrabbarista]

Before the draft I said the Wizards would be absolute morons to pass on Sheppard. I stand by that. Washington passes up another lead guard that could turn their franchise around, for shame! Shepp is the real deal. Rockets need to move FVV so they can give him the keys to the franchise early.

Easy to see why Charlotte wanted desperately to trade up to 3 to nab him but Rockets said no

Yeah, but what about Carrington?

Steal of the draft?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!??????

[scrabbarista]

Just gotta say, those Sheppard highlights from today were extra crispy!! Yummm!!!!

[thelead]

Tristan da Silva plays a lot like Franz. Followed up a great performance with another one. Pretty good get at pick #18.

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[FarBeyondDriven]

I see it's over/under reaction to SL season smh

[FarBeyondDriven]

Guys so far this Summer League

Risacher: Looks fine
Sarr: Looks horrible
Sheppard: Looks great
Castle: Looks fine, but not an NBA player until he can shoot and doesn't seem to have gotten better
Holland: Same as Castle
Salaun: Coming off bench in summer league
Clingan: Did not look good
Dillingham: Ehh
Edey: Looked great but only played in one game
Cody Williams: Has looked bad
Matas: Ehh
Topic: Out for year
Carter: Out for 6 months
Bub: Ehh

I'm not sure why people think this class is exceeding expectations (not that it would matter at all in summer league)

you're legit the worst poster when it comes to NBA prospects. Congrats

[dawhizz]

Matas with 28 and this.

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[HomoSapien]

Matas with 28 and this.

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"Ehh."

[HomoSapien]

Matas with 28 and this.

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"Ehh."

[BlazersBroncos]

Guys so far this Summer League

Risacher: Looks fine
Sarr: Looks horrible
Sheppard: Looks great
Castle: Looks fine, but not an NBA player until he can shoot and doesn't seem to have gotten better
Holland: Same as Castle
Salaun: Coming off bench in summer league
Clingan: Did not look good
Dillingham: Ehh
Edey: Looked great but only played in one game
Cody Williams: Has looked bad
Matas: Ehh
Topic: Out for year
Carter: Out for 6 months
Bub: Ehh

I'm not sure why people think this class is exceeding expectations (not that it would matter at all in summer league)

Clingon had like 15 rebounds and 5 blocks. Outside offense he looked good, which is what anyone who didn’t buy into the ‘this 58% FT shooter actually is a 3PT threat’ nonsense.

But he looked the part outside stamina and offense: elite rebounder, elite rim protector and unique for his age defensive instincts.

[Chuck Everett]

Clingon had like 15 rebounds and 5 blocks. Outside offense he looked good, which is what anyone who didn’t buy into the ‘this 58% FT shooter actually is a 3PT threat’ nonsense.

But he looked the part outside stamina and offense: elite rebounder, elite rim protector and unique for his age defensive instincts.

Clearly after one "summer league" game, it's time for the young man to call it a career.

[RollingWave]

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His feel for the game just oozes 'all-star'. Congrats.

Agreed. ROY and future all-star seem all but certain.

ROY might be problematic given the Rocket's rotation seems pretty stacked, though if he forces his way in then that probably makes it automatic.

Thinking through who in the top 10 will get big minutes and actually score enough to be ROY, ROY usually some sort of onball guy or a big that gets rebounds and enough put backs, either way they have to actually play like close to starter minutes

1. Risacher: nah, not an onball guy
2. Saar: nah, doesn't rebound and not like some crazy scorer.
3. Reed: probably not, too many mouths in Houston right now.
4. Castle: maybe?
5. Hollands: well he might have the ball a lot but doubt it will be anywhere near efficient.
6. Salune: hell no
7. Clingon : I suppose he might go for like 12pt / 12 reb and that might be enough? will he start over Ayton?
8. Dillingham : has the archetype game to get there, if he can adapt fast enough.
9. Edey : Good chance, he'll probably start for sure.
10. Cody : no, he might be good but almost certainly not as a rookie

[Sakkreth]

His feel for the game just oozes 'all-star'. Congrats.

Agreed. ROY and future all-star seem all but certain.

ROY might be problematic given the Rocket's rotation seems pretty stacked, though if he forces his way in then that probably makes it automatic.

Thinking through who in the top 10 will get big minutes and actually score enough to be ROY, ROY usually some sort of onball guy or a big that gets rebounds and enough put backs, either way they have to actually play like close to starter minutes

1. Risacher: nah, not an onball guy
2. Saar: nah, doesn't rebound and not like some crazy scorer.
3. Reed: probably not, too many mouths in Houston right now.
4. Castle: maybe?
5. Hollands: well he might have the ball a lot but doubt it will be anywhere near efficient.
6. Salune: hell no
7. Clingon : I suppose he might go for like 12pt / 12 reb and that might be enough? will he start over Ayton?
8. Dillingham : has the archetype game to get there, if he can adapt fast enough.
9. Edey : Good chance, he'll probably start for sure.
10. Cody : no, he might be good but almost certainly not as a rookie

I understand you did top 10 picks, but at 11 is Buzelis who just had 28.

[Harry Palmer]

The thing about Sheppard, well, one of the things about him is that he combines aggression with control in a way few players pull off as young as he is. He’s all about making the best decision to attack the defense before they know what’s coming. He just rarely makes wrong decisions, dunno if it’s instinctual, the result of serious time on task, both or what, but he’s got it.

Edit; could go either way, but I still don’t see him cracking the Rockets starting lineup, but I think it very likely this is Fred’s swan song in Houston, at least as a full time starter. It’s almost an ideal transition. God the Rockets are stacked, just praying for patience.

[UcanUwill]

Seems they work Sundays. Came on 25 minutes ago. Final tally: six days and three hours with no power.

I used my car to charge my phone, but it was very slow (and inefficient, obviously), so I spent most of the week with my phone power between 0% and 25%.

Anyways, back to normal life now!

You should look at it with a badge of honor. You got to somewhat experience pre-industrial revolution life for a week.

I read about 700 pages over three books.

My PC broke down once, it was night, couldn't sleep, and was pissed I have no PC now, so I just picked up one of Agatha Christie's Poirot books and read it in one sitting. I have never read book in one sitting, but that was best reading experience I ever had, very interesting and easy, maybe even easier than Dan Brown, outside Da Vinci code, Dan Brown can get stupid sometimes, but man, his chapters are like one page long, so it always seems like you breezing through

[UcanUwill]

Did we simply underestimate this draft class?

I see a bunch of quality players so far. Maybe even multiple all-stars.

I completely agree.

This is a stacked class of solid starters.

With these type of drafts usually, they don't end up as bad bad as said, but the problem with them, no one at draft night knows exactly who the good players will be, there arent sure things at all, and that's why people say draft is trash. Its trash draft to have a number one pick, one of those drafts where if might have multiple all stars, and all of them could be drafted outside the top 5, of top 10 even. Its like Giannis at 15.

[UcanUwill]

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Cam was such a steal pick last year. Rockets GM straight up cooking. I was dissapointed Garuba didnt pan out for them, he never could score, but in Europe, he was best switch defense big in my mind.

But that Sengun get, people praise Presti for never missing, guy f'ed up that one huge... I told you guys way before, you do not understand how good this guy his, he won his league MVP at 18, that never happens, thats as close to Luka as you can get. I mean Real Madrid and Senguns team are on different levels entirely, but man still wins MVP, straight dominates his league and is not even a lottery pick if not mistaken. Meanwhile guys like Topic are third stringers in Serbia, but those guys will set tge league on fire? Sorry, I made it about Topic again lol, most these Euro picks are third stringers, and thats ehat made guys like Luka and Alperen special. Point is, Rockets GM cooked a good meal here.

[UcanUwill]

These mock draft gurus don't know ****. They only use statistics. I personally think they don't actually watch NBA basketball. They just watch prospects and then highlights of NBA basketball. That's why I just share who I think has pro potential. I could care less where a guy is drafted. Only if he can play. I crapped on Filipowski for two years and then he fell to the 2nd round. These guys mocked him in the lotto for two straight seasons.

The guys on the draft board are better than the analysts. Although I do like Vecenie but I understand I’m in the minority with him.

Look at 2025. They still have Traore and Edgecombe below Bailey and Harper. They still haven't talked about Asa Newell after that Hoop Summit performance. I kept wondering why he was going to Georgia, but it began to dawn on me, he played on a stacked HS team that didn't allow him the chance to show out statistically (this is good though, shows he's a team player). Well at UGA he is going to get to flex his full potential. Just watch. Dude is going to rocket up the draft boards and everyone is gonna act all weird about it.

Are you talking about mock or bigboard tho? Because those are different things. Bigboard is scouts individual ranking of prospects, mock is simply them trying to predict how they going to be picked, theres a huge difference, and predicting mock before season even started is just a stupid job. I mean KOC had Risacher number 1 in his mock, and he was right. But he had Risacher 9th. best prospect in his personal bigboard ranking.

[The-Power]

But that Sengun get, people praise Presti for never missing, guy f'ed up that one huge... I told you guys way before, you do not understand how good this guy his, he won his league MVP at 18, that never happens, thats as close to Luka as you can get.

Dario Šarić won MVP of the Adriatic League at 19. He turned out to be a solid NBA player but nothing more. I actually agree with you that pre-draft production of international players still gets a bit underrated by NBA teams but it's not the be-all and end-all either.

[UcanUwill]

Ryen Russillo, who I really like, was sold on Sheppard. Watched him a ton and even sold Bill on him. When he just started listing his shooting stats, it was like, damn... And my favorite part from Ryen was him saying, just watch Reeds defenders when they lose him off ball and leave him wide open for a shot, its like everyone is defeated when that happens.

Dude is like Batman, he infects fear haha. Batman part is all me, its not Russillo...

Also, hoo, Buzelis was good!

[UcanUwill]

But that Sengun get, people praise Presti for never missing, guy f'ed up that one huge... I told you guys way before, you do not understand how good this guy his, he won his league MVP at 18, that never happens, thats as close to Luka as you can get.

Dario Šarić won MVP of the Adriatic League at 19. He turned out to be a solid NBA player but nothing more. I actually agree with you that pre-draft production of international players still gets a bit underrated by NBA teams but it's not the be-all and end-all either.

True, but a lot of Adriatic league MVPs are very young, since some prominent teams there are so young or just farm teams, like Mega obviously. In my view, its not the same as winning legit Turkish MVP. Turkish MVPs are great vets usually, its old school european league, if we count Turkey as Europe, which we do in sports.

If I remember well, Jokic was Adriatic MVP, ok, fine but also, 20 year old Petrusev and Bitadze were also MVPs there recently, and going back several years, Ante Tomic was Adriatic MVP when he was 20, and so was Sasha Capin, I dont even know who that is. So, like half of Adriatic MVPs are very young, thats the league, i do not think its that comparable to dominating Turkey at young age, far older and tougher league. Alperen winning Turkish MVP was huge news in Euro basketball, Goga, Petrusev, Saric winning Adriatic MVPs were non stories I feel. I probably needed to clarify that young guys usually never win MVPs in legit leagues like Euroleague, Eurocup, Spanish, Turkish, German, French, Greek leagues. Adriatic league is fine, but its not the same.

But maybe I do speak a little ouf of my ass with Sengun, because fear with him was size compared to his play style, and he grew two extra inches after the draft... That will not be in scouting report, only when you draft a guy, your team scientists can determine that guy will still grow. I remember that happening to Gallo. He was around 6'7 when drafted by the Knicks, very good Olimpia Milano player by the way, legit prospect, but I remember Knicks drafted him and weeks later their medical science team said they are certain this guy will grow at least another two inches in height. And they were correct.