The OFFICIAL rookie impressions thread pt.III

Blkbrd671 · Post #821 » by **Blkbrd671** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 4:24 am

jinishima wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:MKG finally beginning to hit some jump shots lately. Its about the only glaring hole in his game, but its such a tremendous hole that its insane.

He's got a killer motor on him, easily a glue guy on any contending team. could be an allstar if he gets better touch

it seems as if his shot got worst since college, meaning the hitch a lot more apparent. maybe its because there trying to fix it and it makes it worst?

Elden Payton · Post #822 » by **Elden Payton** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 5:08 am

Blkbrd671 wrote:
jinishima wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:MKG finally beginning to hit some jump shots lately. Its about the only glaring hole in his game, but its such a tremendous hole that its insane.

He's got a killer motor on him, easily a glue guy on any contending team. could be an allstar if he gets better touch

it seems as if his shot got worst since college, meaning the hitch a lot more apparent. maybe its because there trying to fix it and it makes it worst?

C'mon now, MKG's jumper is better than ever and now Dunlap actually lets him be existent on offense he is flourishing.

His jumper is his only weakness literally and when he starts hitting them watch out, a player like MKG whilst underrated is a rare prospect with a diverse skillset and an amazing motor.

Elden Payton · Post #823 » by **Elden Payton** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 5:18 am

jinishima wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:MKG finally beginning to hit some jump shots lately. Its about the only glaring hole in his game, but its such a tremendous hole that its insane.

He's got a killer motor on him, easily a glue guy on any contending team. could be an allstar if he gets better touch

I honestly think his jumper is so bad because at every level he has played at he has been able to get to the rim at will, eventually that catches up with you ala Evans, Derozan etc but his work ethic is also legendary at every level he has played at also.

Blkbrd671 · Post #824 » by **Blkbrd671** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 5:21 am

Sik Infant wrote:
C'mon now, MKG's jumper is better than ever and now Dunlap actually lets him be existent on offense he is flourishing.

His jumper is his only weakness literally and when he starts hitting them watch out, a player like MKG whilst underrated is a rare prospect with a diverse skillset and an amazing motor.

i'm talking about the hitch, not the actual shots, i know some filipino's that got some ugly a* looking shots that they can make. he doesn't look comfortable is all i'm saying

Elden Payton · Post #825 » by **Elden Payton** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 5:25 am

Blkbrd671 wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:
C'mon now, MKG's jumper is better than ever and now Dunlap actually lets him be existent on offense he is flourishing.

His jumper is his only weakness literally and when he starts hitting them watch out, a player like MKG whilst underrated is a rare prospect with a diverse skillset and an amazing motor.

i'm talking about the hitch, not the actual shots, i know some filipino's that got some ugly a* looking shots that they can make. he doesn't look comfortable is all i'm saying

He isn't not shooting it because it's ugly, he isn't confident in it because everyone tells him it's wrong.

Elden Payton · Post #826 » by **Elden Payton** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 5:27 am

The fact he releases on the way down is the "hitch"

This can be fixed.

HornetJail · Post #827 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 5:54 am

I can't believe he's actually starting to hit shots despite his weird release, shooting on the way down. I tried that at my gym one time from three and I came up about four feet short. It's just weird- I think it's fixable, but that they'll start fixing his shot in the offseason.

Shem · Post #828 » by **Shem** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 8:44 am

Another solid game from Lillard. 20 points, 4 assists on 8-16 shooting.

orangeparka · Post #829 » by **orangeparka** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 9:27 am

Lillard seems to be shooting better but with fewer assists. Is this a result of playing with Maynor and handling the ball less?

Shem · Post #830 » by **Shem** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 9:46 am

orangeparka wrote:Lillard seems to be shooting better but with fewer assists. Is this a result of playing with Maynor and handling the ball less?

Yes.

Wizenheimer · Post #831 » by **Wizenheimer** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:01 pm

orangeparka wrote:Lillard seems to be shooting better but with fewer assists. Is this a result of playing with Maynor and handling the ball less?

pretty much

Portland has been playing a lot of small-ball lineups since Maynor arrived where both Lillard and Maynard have been on the floor. This give Lillard a chance to carry less of a burden for initiating offense because Maynor, unlike Portland's other backup PG's, is actually capable of running an offense.

prior to Maynor's arrival, Lillard had played 39 minutes or more in 7 of the last 10 games, and in 13 of the last 20 games. In those 20 games, Lillard hit the 40 minute mark 11 times

in the 5 games that Maynor has played, Lillard has only topped the 39 minute mark once

I know some people in this thread weren't accepting the logic, but it's rather obvious that the added responsibility a PG shoulders for initiating team offense can impact efficiency. Lillard was facing constant double teams as the only competent Blazer PG. Opposing teams were making him the focus of their defense and they were constantly picking him up and pressuring him from the back court on.

Before Maynor arrived, Lillard ranked 3rd in the NBA in average minutes. He's still tied for 4th with Lebron and Jrue Holiday. There are only 2 PG's in the top-10 for minutes and only 3 in the top-20. The fact that Lillard had to carry the burden of so many minutes as a rookie PG makes what he's accomplished so far more impressive rather then less. At this point, it's probably a good thing that he's sacrificing some assist numbers in favor of increasing his efficiency while mitigating dead legs and the rookie wall

Smirk · Post #832 » by **Smirk** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 8:03 pm

I'm still fuming mad at Monty for not playing Davis for almost the entirety of the 4th last night. Inexcusable.

Liver_Pooty · Post #833 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 8:11 pm

Smirk wrote:I'm still fuming mad at Monty for not playing Davis for almost the entirety of the 4th last night. Inexcusable.

Was as obvious as a tanking move as it gets.

jinishima · Post #834 » by **jinishima** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 9:35 pm

Yeah, were definitely in tank mode. Or to code it, not caring about winning. Robin Lopez was getting killed on the pick and role in the 4th, and Davis was playin like a franchise player with energy galore for the time he played (13 pts, 6 reb, 2blks in 17 min) . If Monty really cared about winning, Davis wouldve been in. I assure Lakers fans, that as the sky is blue, that comeback was fool's gold. :roll:

Shem · Post #835 » by **Shem** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 10:21 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI-QavYE7qQ[/youtube]

orangeparka · Post #836 » by **orangeparka** » Fri Mar 8, 2013 12:21 am

It definitely looks like he's getting better shots. Good for him. Maynor was always a good lead guard IMO.

monopoman · Post #837 » by **monopoman** » Fri Mar 8, 2013 3:20 am

orangeparka wrote:It definitely looks like he's getting better shots. Good for him. Maynor was always a good lead guard IMO.

Maynor proves that one teams trash is another teams treasure. Portland will easily be offering an extension for Maynor as long as he doesn't' demand over 2-3 million a season, and obviously realizes he will not be a starter barring injury.

DusterBuster · Post #838 » by **DusterBuster** » Fri Mar 8, 2013 3:38 am

monopoman wrote:
orangeparka wrote:It definitely looks like he's getting better shots. Good for him. Maynor was always a good lead guard IMO.

Maynor proves that one teams trash is another teams treasure. Portland will easily be offering an extension for Maynor as long as he doesn't' demand over 2-3 million a season, and obviously realizes he will not be a starter barring injury.

I can't say Portland will "easily" offer him an extension. Olshey still talks about having somewhere in the vicinity of 11.8-13.1 mil in cap space (depending on if they keep their pick or not). I think you also have to consider that Maynor may want a chance to player somewhere where he could start. I could see a team desperate for a PG but not wanting to pay a fortune for one, Utah for example, offering him a deal around 4 mil per.

It'll be interesting to see what Olshey does with Maynor and the Blazers cap space in general.

Elden Payton · Post #839 » by **Elden Payton** » Fri Mar 8, 2013 5:32 am

Maynor is actually a very good player and extremely underrated, catch 22 of developing on a very good team and developing accordingly but not actually getting the playing time to excel.

He really suits Portland and I watched Lillard and himself destroy us, his statline and minutes were modest but he (Maynor) was great, Lillard was as great as he's been all season.

I think Maynor will be allowed to leave in the offseason and I agree with DusterBuster that someone will offer him in the 4m and deservedly so.

Portland unlike most teams "stuck" in the half rebuild are actually there because of circumstance and unfortunate injuries, they have exceptional talent(to lose too many games whilst "tanking"), they have major upside and hopefully they avoid the injury bug after trying times.

Post #840 » by **mopper8** » Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:10 am

Shem wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI-QavYE7qQ[/youtube]

Am I crazy or does he have a pretty low release point on his jumper?