Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins

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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#821 » by xdrta+ » Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:30 pm

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xdrta+ wrote:
Warriorfan wrote:
No it's use TPE say Iguadalla in June, 15 mil ung 2021
Combine with Looney 5 mil PO 2021
Plus slot of lotto pick Min #1/ plus GS #1 say 7mil and 1

You can trade for 35 mil ish player


That's a little hard to decipher. You're saying you could trade for Iguodala using the TPE, then trade him and Looney plus 2 picks for a $35M player? Is that right? Because that doesn't add up. Draft picks have $0 value in trades, for one thing.


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a signed draft player is a slot so it works


Well, you're optimistic, I'll give you that.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#822 » by God Squad » Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:37 pm

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Domejandro wrote:Given that Andrew starts off every year amazingly, I would really, really encourage tempering excitement.


I dont think thats the case. He usually isnt that good making threes and in 4 game sample, has been very consistent in high volume and plays like a completely different player almost looks like MIN got robbed.
Getting open looks from D Green and learning better form from Steph, Klay should make his 3% close to 40%.
He already looks comfortable in GSW and all of his shots are not forced despite playing with Gleague players since he plays within the system and not the focal point avging less than 15 shots. At full strength, he should play even better with most pressure taken off as the 4th best player which is every team's dream. If he somehow maintain his 3par and ftr, thats an all star player.

If everything goes well, he might end up even better value than DAR and the pick is a cherry on the top. While MIN looks good as well, they better be competitive otherwise risk losing a top pick.

Agreed small sample size. But he looks different. Playing more within the flow of the offense opposed to "getting my 20" style of play.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#823 » by K4P » Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:41 pm

4 games from Wiggins really erased 6 years of him being a below average shooter/defender/ball handler/ft shooter/hustle player.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#824 » by Grubie024 » Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:43 pm

All these people acting as if they’ve watched more than 5 minutes of wolves games lol
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#825 » by Mylie10 » Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:50 pm

KAT4PREZ wrote:4 games from Wiggins really erased 6 years of him being a below average shooter/defender/ball handler/ft shooter/hustle player.


No it doesn't erase it. Not at all. It's just that priorities have changed for him.

No longer does he need to carry a franchise. Or be Co carrier for the franchise. He doesn't have the weight of being the number one pick and being expected to be Kobe Bryant lite.

IMO Wiggins needs to play in a system that keeps him moving....both on offense and defense. The Warriors have that freestyle system that has guys on the move, and their best players all share the ball. So the pressure on offense for him, is instantly lessened. Not saying there is no pressure, just different expectations.

They will expect him to improve his team defense and defensive rotations. That will be difficult for him and Draymond will be all over him it he doesn't rotate properly. His individual defense is fine, but that's a matchup thing anyhow.

Not saying Wiggins is q totally rehabilitated player after 4 games. Merely saying that the change of scenery, the role change, and the lowered expectations seem to fit his personality. Not every guy picked at the top is a killer.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#826 » by SF_Warriors » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:30 pm

KAT4PREZ wrote:4 games from Wiggins really erased 6 years of him being a below average shooter/defender/ball handler/ft shooter/hustle player.


Well, 4 games from steph this year exposed him...
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#827 » by xdrta+ » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:51 pm

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KAT4PREZ wrote:4 games from Wiggins really erased 6 years of him being a below average shooter/defender/ball handler/ft shooter/hustle player.


Well, 4 games from steph this year exposed him...


Haha, exactly. It erased 10 years of...well, something. Oh yeah, greatness.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#828 » by whatisacenter » Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:55 pm

KAT4PREZ wrote:4 games from Wiggins really erased 6 years of him being a below average shooter/defender/ball handler/ft shooter/hustle player.


I’ll bet you anything that you didn’t see a minute of his 4th game.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#829 » by Pennebaker » Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:20 am

Mylie10 wrote:
KAT4PREZ wrote:4 games from Wiggins really erased 6 years of him being a below average shooter/defender/ball handler/ft shooter/hustle player.


No it doesn't erase it. Not at all. It's just that priorities have changed for him.

No longer does he need to carry a franchise. Or be Co carrier for the franchise. He doesn't have the weight of being the number one pick and being expected to be Kobe Bryant lite.


That weight was lifted off of him a long, long time ago, my dude. That didn't just happen now.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#830 » by Zvaart » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:23 am

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svart wrote:Nothing about DLo in this trade, i think. the dubs just wanted a sf, and somehow they decided Wiggins is the one. We'll see how this pans out. Till now his debut is promising, effort on defense, playing within the flow of the offense. But you know what they say:
Every miracle last three days. Too small of a sample, we need to wait and see more.
I'm not mad as it is now. Better have Wiggins than nothing, i don't consider him a net negative.

but stats says he is


what stats? in minny?
don't care about them. another team, another system. i hope he will be useful. but we'll see i guess....
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#831 » by mplsfonz23 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:30 pm

Lalouie wrote:first, i'm not a wiggins nor dlo fan.
i've been listening to some pods and i was surprised that no one considered that wiggins might be better on a GOOD team, or ie that bad teams tend to bring down performance. they were all high on dlo because kat would be happy,,,is what i heard most often.

the thing that always struck me about gsw was that the role players played great, which is what wiggins would be. wiggins on gsw would be the 4th or 5th player on that team

$31 mil is a lot to play to a 4th-5th option, but it's not my cheese.
The Wolves NEEDED a stable, score first PG for this system. DLo fills that need. Who knows if it succeeds, but our star player is happy.
We didn't really need Wiggins considering he can't shoot the 3 real well. I think you will get a lot of producing out of Wigs,... IF... you find a way to KEEP him focused. He may get you some good value this summer.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#832 » by iamworthy » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:50 pm

It seems hard to believe that Wiggins is going to stick with the warriors, maybe he will. It just seems weird that they ultimately went from KD to Wiggins. I wouldn't be surprised if they packaged Wiggins and pick(s) to get their true final piece.

Side note: seems like warrior fans are coming around to liking the deal, which is a good thing. So it appears that both sides are happy.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#833 » by OrangeBlueSkies » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:34 pm

iamworthy wrote:It seems hard to believe that Wiggins is going to stick with the warriors, maybe he will. It just seems weird that they ultimately went from KD to Wiggins. I wouldn't be surprised if they packaged Wiggins and pick(s) to get their true final piece.

Side note: seems like warrior fans are coming around to liking the deal, which is a good thing. So it appears that both sides are happy.



They went from losing KD for nothing to salvaging KD leaving and ultimately turned that into Andrew Wiggins.

So it was either watch KD walk or plug in Wiggins for Durant.

a healthy GSW squad featuring Steph/Klay/Wig/Dray/#1-5 pick in the Draft (or a trade of the pick for a gap filler)
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#834 » by Dubs 707 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:16 am

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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#835 » by rand » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:18 am

Dubs 707 wrote:Bump

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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#836 » by Dubs 707 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:19 am

To remind fans we are fans and not GMs. Fans overwhelming thought the wolves won...
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#837 » by Dubs 707 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:20 am

ThunderBolt wrote:Light years.

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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#838 » by Zvaart » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:22 am

Dubs 707 wrote:Bump


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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#839 » by Colbinii » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:23 am

Dubs 707 wrote:Bump


Russell is playing like a Top 10 Point Guard this year. 19/3.5/7 (2.6 TO), 3.1 OBPM [High end starter, weak all-star], +7.0 On-Court +/- per 100.

Wiggins is also doing well, 18/4.2/2.1, 1.5 BPM and +9.0 On-Court +/- per 100.
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Re: Woj: DLo to Minny for Wiggins 

Post#840 » by Coxy » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:24 am

That's a cold ass bump.

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