Sixers Suspend Ben Simmons For One Game

[Pointgod]

Just trade him already. 76ers are holding dude hostage at this point.

They aren’t getting offers that makes the team even the same. He’s under contract for 4 years. No one is holding anyone hostage. Simmons can ask for his release and not take any money with him. Is he willing to do that?

He's not going to suit up and play. Something is better than nothing. So they'd rather play this game and not even get slightly better? That's dumb.

Yes. It amazes me that GMs always fail to understand that he minute a trade demand is made public they’ve lost a lot of leverage. You’d think Morey of all people would know that since he tried to trade for James Harden last year. I’m sure Morey wasn’t calling up offering Houston Ben Simmons, 3 first picks and 3 picks swaps for Harden which is the equivalent of what he’s asking for a much lesser player in Simmons.

[Slacktard]

They aren’t getting offers that makes the team even the same. He’s under contract for 4 years. No one is holding anyone hostage. Simmons can ask for his release and not take any money with him. Is he willing to do that?

He's not going to suit up and play. Something is better than nothing. So they'd rather play this game and not even get slightly better? That's dumb.

Yes. It amazes me that GMs always fail to understand that he minute a trade demand is made public they’ve lost a lot of leverage. You’d think Morey of all people would know that since he tried to trade for James Harden last year. I’m sure Morey wasn’t calling up offering Houston Ben Simmons, 3 first picks and 3 picks swaps for Harden which is the equivalent of what he’s asking for a much lesser player in Simmons.

If Harden had been 25 years old and under contract for the next 4 seasons his value would have been even higher. He is a better player than Ben Simmons, but age and control matters when you are talking about contracts. How each team prioritizes each is up to the GM of that individual team.

To a team with a reasonable expectation they can retain a star player a 99 Overall rated player who is 30+ with 1.5 years left on his contract is going to be more desirable to them than a 90 overall rated player who is 25 with 4 years left.

to a market where they believe they can't attract stars and had they gotten that 99 overall rated player would see him leave in 1.5 years, a 90 overall rated player who is under control for 4 more seasons may be more desirable.

[Rastas]

This thread if anything else is all about outing the many Top Shelf Haters here on RealGM.
Some Guy want's out of a Bad Situation and all of a sudden we have all the Haters flocking in here telling us he is the Scum of the Earth - like how dare he wear Sweat Pants to Training and for Putting his other Squad 1 or 2 Top in his Pocket - don't you know people will make up stories saying it's a Phone or next it will be a knife or Gun or some Weapon of Mass Destruction in his Pocket......
Keep it up Haters - Haven't laughed so much in years.

[K3nny Pow3rs]

Wow so if they void the contract then Simmons can sign with anyone, I guess that means the Lakers, Clippers or GS.

Teams have no money left to sign him. He’s not gonna to risk losing all that guarantee money.

At the end of the day. Simmons and klutch cannot risk losing 140 million. They will never recoup the money if contract is terminated. He would need to sign for vet min and since season already started. He can’t even play for a year and get super max money again with the same team. He gonna to cost himself at least 40-50 million guaranteed if contract get voided. That is the last thing the nba players association wants to see happen

All the years they spent getting players guarantee contracts.

I doubt Simmons cares about money, he's proving it now.
He'll sacrifice all the money in the world, if he can play in California.

[Simmons25]

You think this somehow favors the Sixers? LMAO

Sixers fanbase is in complete denial. It's okay, Spurs fans were in the same place as you guys prior to July 2018. You'll come to accept reality eventually

We have some seriously delusional 76ers fans... honestly. Some of them act like the team, coach and the fans have done absolutely nothing wrong... and that somehow they have come out of smelling like roses.

This has been a clusterf(%k of massive proportions. The team and the fans forced Simmons into a corner where he couldn't even show his face in Philly anymore... all talked him down like he is a bum yet now want nothing less than 4+ time all-stars back in return for him.. and then have the audacity to say its only Simmons who is affecting his trade value and doing them dirty

Imagine thinking that this scenario in any way favours the Sixers. The best thing they could have done is just pay him to stay away as if he was injured and couldn't play anyway... and then wait until a team has a need or a decent player wants to leave their situation. Every day his value just goes down and down the longer this carries on and they force him to be there.

Force him to...shoot from outside? An NBA basketball player? Oh, the inhumanity!

Ben, how many accounts do you have on here?

Nice adding your own little slant on what I said.

I said they forced him into a corner... you know... by telling him to F off, burning his singlet, telling him to never come back to Philly again, whilst teammates and coach threw him under the bus and then not even saying anything publicly to help the situation until they realised they couldn't trade him. Philly has every bit as much to blame for this as Simmons does.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Doc is on record saying that the Sixers chemistry is improving by the day with Simmons. Then throws him out of practice the next day and he gets suspended. I think this is going to head toward a grievance by the PA.

[Eyeamok]

Wow so if they void the contract then Simmons can sign with anyone, I guess that means the Lakers, Clippers or GS.

Teams have no money left to sign him. He’s not gonna to risk losing all that guarantee money.

At the end of the day. Simmons and klutch cannot risk losing 140 million. They will never recoup the money if contract is terminated. He would need to sign for vet min and since season already started. He can’t even play for a year and get super max money again with the same team. He gonna to cost himself at least 40-50 million guaranteed if contract get voided. That is the last thing the nba players association wants to see happen

All the years they spent getting players guarantee contracts.

I doubt Simmons cares about money, he's proving it now.
He'll sacrifice all the money in the world, if he can play in California.

The only thing Simmons cares about is his image and money. Simmons has allowed Klutch to cost him millions so far and the season just started. If he was so adamant about taking a stand, he would be in California right now waiting this things out. Sacrifice all the money in the world . Money is the only reason Simmons plays. He does not love the game.

[taikibansei]

We have some seriously delusional 76ers fans... honestly. Some of them act like the team, coach and the fans have done absolutely nothing wrong... and that somehow they have come out of smelling like roses.

This has been a clusterf(%k of massive proportions. The team and the fans forced Simmons into a corner where he couldn't even show his face in Philly anymore... all talked him down like he is a bum yet now want nothing less than 4+ time all-stars back in return for him.. and then have the audacity to say its only Simmons who is affecting his trade value and doing them dirty

Imagine thinking that this scenario in any way favours the Sixers. The best thing they could have done is just pay him to stay away as if he was injured and couldn't play anyway... and then wait until a team has a need or a decent player wants to leave their situation. Every day his value just goes down and down the longer this carries on and they force him to be there.

Force him to...shoot from outside? An NBA basketball player? Oh, the inhumanity!

Ben, how many accounts do you have on here?

Nice adding your own little slant on what I said.

I said they forced him into a corner... you know... by telling him to F off, burning his singlet, telling him to never come back to Philly again, whilst teammates and coach threw him under the bus and then not even saying anything publicly to help the situation until they realised they couldn't trade him. Philly has every bit as much to blame for this as Simmons does.

Do you need a hug, Ben? It sounds like you need a hug.

Oh, that big meanie Embiid, in the very same interview where he "threw" you under the bus, threw himself under the bus as well, saying, "Then I go zombie and turn the ball over...".

You can watch the whole thing here:

Watch on YouTube

Summary in order:

Embiid starts by praising Atlanta.
He then states that "a lot of stuff went wrong."
He blames the officiating.
He notes that he was limited by serious injury.
He praises everyone on the 76ers team, including Ben.
He notes pass gate, though doesn't call out Ben by name.
He then blames himself for the turnover that followed this, giving himself equal blame for the loss.

Again, oh the humanity! How will you, poor little Ben, ever survive this?

[Bum Adebayo]

This thread if anything else is all about outing the many Top Shelf Haters here on RealGM.
Some Guy want's out of a Bad Situation and all of a sudden we have all the Haters flocking in here telling us he is the Scum of the Earth - like how dare he wear Sweat Pants to Training and for Putting his other Squad 1 or 2 Top in his Pocket - don't you know people will make up stories saying it's a Phone or next it will be a knife or Gun or some Weapon of Mass Destruction in his Pocket......
Keep it up Haters - Haven't laughed so much in years.

Yeah this is the problem here, you have 4-year left on your contract and somehow it's ok if you decide that you want out for any reason? so now this will be the new normal, Embiid could just do the same a month before the trade deadline, citing "bad roster construction" as the reason, and somehow it would be ok? what is the point in having contracts then? star, and even non-star players can just force a trade whenever they want and it's somehow ok?

[Bum Adebayo]

What's next, a rookie after his first year forcing a trade because he feels betrayed for whatever reason? and then the team would be at fault if they don't trade him of course, because the player would just be a distraction to the team and would play with low effort all the time, so better trade him for a worse player right?

[dhsilv2]

They aren’t getting offers that makes the team even the same. He’s under contract for 4 years. No one is holding anyone hostage. Simmons can ask for his release and not take any money with him. Is he willing to do that?

He's not going to suit up and play. Something is better than nothing. So they'd rather play this game and not even get slightly better? That's dumb.

Yes. It amazes me that GMs always fail to understand that he minute a trade demand is made public they’ve lost a lot of leverage. You’d think Morey of all people would know that since he tried to trade for James Harden last year. I’m sure Morey wasn’t calling up offering Houston Ben Simmons, 3 first picks and 3 picks swaps for Harden which is the equivalent of what he’s asking for a much lesser player in Simmons.

historically that's true because of the short timeline they have to trade a player. That's not the case here. They have forever effectively to trade Ben and thus we are here waiting for another player to demand a trade.

[azcatz11]

This thread if anything else is all about outing the many Top Shelf Haters here on RealGM.
Some Guy want's out of a Bad Situation and all of a sudden we have all the Haters flocking in here telling us he is the Scum of the Earth - like how dare he wear Sweat Pants to Training and for Putting his other Squad 1 or 2 Top in his Pocket - don't you know people will make up stories saying it's a Phone or next it will be a knife or Gun or some Weapon of Mass Destruction in his Pocket......
Keep it up Haters - Haven't laughed so much in years.

Nothing to do with being a hater. The only people getting played are the fans who pay good money (and pay his salary) to watch this bum not want to participate.

Ironic post by you

[dhsilv2]

Force him to...shoot from outside? An NBA basketball player? Oh, the inhumanity!

Ben, how many accounts do you have on here?

Nice adding your own little slant on what I said.

I said they forced him into a corner... you know... by telling him to F off, burning his singlet, telling him to never come back to Philly again, whilst teammates and coach threw him under the bus and then not even saying anything publicly to help the situation until they realised they couldn't trade him. Philly has every bit as much to blame for this as Simmons does.

Do you need a hug, Ben? It sounds like you need a hug.

Oh, that big meanie Embiid, in the very same interview where he "threw" you under the bus, threw himself under the bus as well, saying, "Then I go zombie and turn the ball over...".

You can watch the whole thing here:

Watch on YouTube

Summary in order:

Embiid starts by praising Atlanta.
He then states that "a lot of stuff went wrong."
He blames the officiating.
He notes that he was limited by serious injury.
He praises everyone on the 76ers team, including Ben.
He notes pass gate, though doesn't call out Ben by name.
He then blames himself for the turnover that followed this, giving himself equal blame for the loss.

Again, oh the humanity! How will you, poor little Ben, ever survive this?

Even the "pass" he references the missed shot (not ben) and the missed free throw (not ben). I've had to more than once make sure I was watching the right press conference with all the talk about how embiid threw him under the bus.

[zaz102]

He's not going to suit up and play. Something is better than nothing. So they'd rather play this game and not even get slightly better? That's dumb.

Yes. It amazes me that GMs always fail to understand that he minute a trade demand is made public they’ve lost a lot of leverage. You’d think Morey of all people would know that since he tried to trade for James Harden last year. I’m sure Morey wasn’t calling up offering Houston Ben Simmons, 3 first picks and 3 picks swaps for Harden which is the equivalent of what he’s asking for a much lesser player in Simmons.

historically that's true because of the short timeline they have to trade a player. That's not the case here. They have forever effectively to trade Ben and thus we are here waiting for another player to demand a trade.

Technically, they did try to trade him before the demand was made public. Apparently Simmons requested a trade at the end of the season, but that was not known until recently. But obviously, teams weren't willing to trade what Morey was looking for. Not to mention they did try to trade him last season as well.

[DusterBuster]

This is just a bad breakup and brutal to watch. Trade him for Malcolm Brogdon and pieces and call it an effing day.

Would the Pacers even make that trade at this point?

As -Luke- pointed out, we can no longer trade Brogdon this year so even if we would make that deal, we're not allowed to.

Ignoring the CBA issues though, would the Pacers make that trade for Simmons if they even could?

[K3nny Pow3rs]

Teams have no money left to sign him. He’s not gonna to risk losing all that guarantee money.

At the end of the day. Simmons and klutch cannot risk losing 140 million. They will never recoup the money if contract is terminated. He would need to sign for vet min and since season already started. He can’t even play for a year and get super max money again with the same team. He gonna to cost himself at least 40-50 million guaranteed if contract get voided. That is the last thing the nba players association wants to see happen

All the years they spent getting players guarantee contracts.

I doubt Simmons cares about money, he's proving it now.
He'll sacrifice all the money in the world, if he can play in California.

The only thing Simmons cares about is his image and money. Simmons has allowed Klutch to cost him millions so far and the season just started. If he was so adamant about taking a stand, he would be in California right now waiting this things out. Sacrifice all the money in the world . Money is the only reason Simmons plays. He does not love the game.

Simmons only came back to Philly to cause mayhem to lower his trade value to make it easy for Californian teams to trade for him, now Morey will have to trade him for peanuts, plus the distraction is too much, so Simmons won, Morey lost, Game Over.

[DusterBuster]

Summary in order:

Embiid starts by praising Atlanta.
He then states that "a lot of stuff went wrong."
He blames the officiating.
He notes that he was limited by serious injury.
He praises everyone on the 76ers team, including Ben.
He notes pass gate, though doesn't call out Ben by name.
He then blames himself for the turnover that followed this, giving himself equal blame for the loss.

Again, oh the humanity! How will you, poor little Ben, ever survive this?

This is what should scare every other GM in the league possibly considering a trade for Simmons. What he had in Philly wasn't THAT bad. The people claiming his team threw him under the bus in Game 7 are really over-exaggerating. Embiid and Doc were frustrated and simply going over some of the key moments of the game... he was a key piece of a key part of that game, as was Embiid, which he took credit for. Yes, the fans are super harsh in Philly, but nothing his teammates or coaches said publicly were sooooo out of line as to necessitate this level of reaction.

If the guy has THIS thin of skin, what's going to happen if/when he gets the tiniest bit of criticism in another city?

[Woodsanity]

People who think Dame will be traded for Simmons are on crack. I dunno if I would trade Mccolum for Simmons at this point.

Portland has leverage. The only way Portland can contend is if they can keep Mcollum or if they can get some of what they get from Mcollum from Simons which they possibly could. But they're not trading Lillard.. that's laughable.

I am not sure Portland would do Simmons straight up for CJ at this point... Portland does value team chemistry / locker room fit and Simmons is acting like a giant baby right now. That won't fly in Portland.

Its a risky play and it hinges a lot on Simmons getting his act together and also making improvements for it to be a positive trade. Personally I do not have high hopes of that happening. You can tell Simmons is a guy who is only doing it for the paycheck and is not serious. Hence why he still has his brother as a shooting coach. He is a guy who just coasts off talent and does not work hard or smart. Nothing wrong with that but obviously not the type of player you want on your team if your trying to contend.

[dhsilv2]

Yes. It amazes me that GMs always fail to understand that he minute a trade demand is made public they’ve lost a lot of leverage. You’d think Morey of all people would know that since he tried to trade for James Harden last year. I’m sure Morey wasn’t calling up offering Houston Ben Simmons, 3 first picks and 3 picks swaps for Harden which is the equivalent of what he’s asking for a much lesser player in Simmons.

historically that's true because of the short timeline they have to trade a player. That's not the case here. They have forever effectively to trade Ben and thus we are here waiting for another player to demand a trade.

Technically, they did try to trade him before the demand was made public. Apparently Simmons requested a trade at the end of the season, but that was not known until recently. But obviously, teams weren't willing to trade what Morey was looking for. Not to mention they did try to trade him last season as well.

They wanted James Harden last year lol. Of course he was available for an MVP!

Didn't know he asked right after the season. That at least makes Ben look better if true. But still when you have 4 years left on a deal, the team has to wait to find the right deal and the player needs to accept that's part of signing a long term deal.

[kio80]

This guy is just a trash human being. There should be provision that such conduct can lead to his contract being torn up and for however many years of his contract or 4 years, whatever is longer, players are kryptonited from joining any other NBA team. Let him play for the Shanghai Tigers.

calling him trash is fine but funny part is doc actually kicked him out of practice after begging him with mgt players to show up just once.
embiid too is a diva being way too passive aggressive. one day begs on his knees hes best friends then today claims he doesnt want to babysit he doesnt care simmons now that he showed up. which one is it? some of these guys in philly including morey have bipolar disease they need to go see a doctor as much as simmons has to be blamed. not trying to side with klutch but sixers will be a fa wasteland for decades.

That is kinda true, as a 76er fan, I am extremely down on Morey, like I have said multiple times.
He won’t trade Simmons for anything less than his ridiculous asking price, he is not doing anything since the off season to help the team, he is doing it out of his huge ego, not wanting to lose face, so he puts the team’s future in jeopardy. He could have worked out so many deals that could benefit the team more than having Simmons in the team.
No one else seem to notice that Morey is the main problem, not Simmons ( as much as he is acting out), not Embiid, **** Morey is the Sixer’s biggest problem.


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