NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 (Fresh poll ➥ Vote)

Moderators: Clav, Domejandro, ken6199, bisme37, Dirk, KingDavid, cupcakesnake, bwgood77, zimpy27, infinite11285

Who is the MVP so far?

Poll ended at Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:39 am

Damian Lillard
13
5%
Luka Doncic
8
3%
Nikola Jokic
76
32%
Joel Embiid
14
6%
Kawhi Leonard
1
0%
Steph Curry
3
1%
Giannis Antetokounmpo
51
21%
James Harden
20
8%
LeBron James
51
21%
Other - Who?
1
0%
 
Total votes: 238

User avatar
Dupp
RealGM
Posts: 112,394
And1: 67,144
Joined: Aug 16, 2009
Location: Lifelong Nuggets Fan
 

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#861 » by Dupp » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:07 am

Aren’t the Nuggets a “bum team”?
Gibson22
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,921
And1: 912
Joined: Jun 23, 2016
 

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#862 » by Gibson22 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:51 am

lebron3-14-3 wrote:L for phila, good game for joel.
So, compared to lebron:
-Embiid has 2.5 less Ws, 5 more missed games
- Kawhi 1Ws, 4 more missed games
-Giannis 4.5 Ws, 1 more missed game
-Jokic 5ws, 0 more missed games
Dirk
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 13,652
And1: 37,517
Joined: Dec 12, 2005
     

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#863 » by Dirk » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:58 am

Blaze94 wrote:lmao lebum pads his stats against bum teams all week and now plays Jokic and disappears in the second half

Jokic is the clear MVP right now..bronsexuals are a weird breed

Freighttrain wrote: And here we see the homo retardicus, an ancient species said to be almost extinct, mainly due to the big intellectual wave. It is extremely rare to see this creature in the open, as most have retreated due to societal evolution and it's lack to adapt to their new surroundings.

Lebum, bronsexuals, retardicus, etc...

This really isn't the topic for that type of back and forth. There are plenty of other Lebron related topics to go at each other. :box:

Let's try to keep the discussion at a good level and respect other users and fan bases.
Freighttrain
Analyst
Posts: 3,663
And1: 7,084
Joined: Aug 08, 2014
   

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#864 » by Freighttrain » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:21 am

Dirk wrote:
Blaze94 wrote:lmao lebum pads his stats against bum teams all week and now plays Jokic and disappears in the second half

Jokic is the clear MVP right now..bronsexuals are a weird breed

Freighttrain wrote: And here we see the homo retardicus, an ancient species said to be almost extinct, mainly due to the big intellectual wave. It is extremely rare to see this creature in the open, as most have retreated due to societal evolution and it's lack to adapt to their new surroundings.

Lebum, bronsexuals, retardicus, etc...

This really isn't the topic for that type of back and forth. There are plenty of other Lebron related topics to go at each other. :box:

Let's try to keep the discussion at a good level and respect other users and fan bases.


Dismantling a troll post with sarcasm seemed to be the logical response, as others might genuinely provoke a discussion, which is within the posters intent. It also takes 2 minutes to look at the posters posts and date of joining to know it's either a burner account or a troll account, both of which would only lead to the result of banning the account in itself, as it doesn't add but only subtract to the discussion. I was just being a good samaritan and pointing the obvious out.
Dirk
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 13,652
And1: 37,517
Joined: Dec 12, 2005
     

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#865 » by Dirk » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:45 am

Freighttrain wrote:Dismantling a troll post with sarcasm seemed to be the logical response, as others might genuinely provoke a discussion, which is within the posters intent. It also takes 2 minutes to look at the posters posts and date of joining to know it's either a burner account or a troll account, both of which would only lead to the result of banning the account in itself, as it doesn't add but only subtract to the discussion. I was just being a good samaritan and pointing the obvious out.


I get you, but this topic aims to be different from other GB topics. So, best to just use the report button on potential trolls, burners, etc... as opposed to feeding bad posts.
User avatar
Sgt Major
Head Coach
Posts: 6,642
And1: 16,421
Joined: Nov 09, 2018
   

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#866 » by Sgt Major » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:46 am

But reporting is snitching and replying is funnier :D
Det. Frank Pembleton: You know, sometimes you're funny. Then there's now.
Maze
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,551
And1: 1,036
Joined: Jan 20, 2018

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#867 » by Maze » Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:13 pm

Low Key, I could see Devin Booker throwing a hat in the race.He's finally starting to look comfortable playing with CP3.Plus his team is winning this year.
boogiezen
Senior
Posts: 660
And1: 566
Joined: Aug 27, 2020
 

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#868 » by boogiezen » Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:19 pm

Damn. Luka starting to play like an MVP candidate but his team sucks ass.
Maybe it's better not to be the best. Then you can lose and it's OK. - Searching for Bobby Fischer (1993)
kuclas
General Manager
Posts: 7,754
And1: 3,967
Joined: Nov 08, 2016
     

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#869 » by kuclas » Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:03 pm

Maze wrote:Low Key, I could see Devin Booker throwing a hat in the race.He's finally starting to look comfortable playing with CP3.Plus his team is winning this year.

Chris Paul is the real mvp of the suns. He just knows how to run an effective offense. Even at age 35. Look what he did for a young okc team last season.
ShotCreator
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,836
And1: 2,545
Joined: May 18, 2014
Location: CF
     

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#870 » by ShotCreator » Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:03 pm

Balls Deep wrote:
ShotCreator wrote:MVPS mean nothing but they’ll start to actually tarnish reputations if LeBron could win over guys like Jokic and Embiid this year.


You know the Nuggets are not even top 6 in the West right?

you realize LA isn’t even close to #1 in the conference right? Let alone league.

Give the damn thing to Gobert or Conley if that’s the level of thought put into the award.

But it won’t be. Which is why it’s ultimately worthless. It’s beginning to be the worst award I’ve ever seen in sports considering what it’s trying to do.
Swinging for the fences.
ShotCreator
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,836
And1: 2,545
Joined: May 18, 2014
Location: CF
     

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#871 » by ShotCreator » Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:05 pm

kuclas wrote:
Maze wrote:Low Key, I could see Devin Booker throwing a hat in the race.He's finally starting to look comfortable playing with CP3.Plus his team is winning this year.

Chris Paul is the real mvp of the suns. He just knows how to run an effective offense. Even at age 35. Look what he did for a young okc team last season.

People actually argued, for years, actual years, the guy is a selfish ball monopolizer who lowers a teams ceiling.

3 different franchise the past 4 years and they all know, love, and respect his game for what it is.

If this guy actually had competent teams in his prime....he’d still be underrated, but the (Please Use More Appropriate Word) arguments wouldn’t have existed so much.
Swinging for the fences.
Gibson22
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,921
And1: 912
Joined: Jun 23, 2016
 

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#872 » by Gibson22 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:11 pm

Oh, kawhi is injured, didn't catch it.

-Embiid
-Jokic
-Lebron

look like the only serious candidates rn
Forte IV
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,379
And1: 6,500
Joined: Jun 12, 2008
   

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#873 » by Forte IV » Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:03 pm

lebron3-14-3 wrote:Oh, kawhi is injured, didn't catch it.

-Embiid
-Jokic
-Lebron

look like the only serious candidates rn


Stop it. Jokic isnt an MVP candidate until his team is at least top 3. And even historically speaking, he really isnt then either.
If the Clippers win the championship next year I'm getting banned from RealGM
Balls Deep
Pro Prospect
Posts: 957
And1: 1,294
Joined: Jun 11, 2019

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#874 » by Balls Deep » Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:09 pm

ShotCreator wrote:
Balls Deep wrote:
ShotCreator wrote:MVPS mean nothing but they’ll start to actually tarnish reputations if LeBron could win over guys like Jokic and Embiid this year.


You know the Nuggets are not even top 6 in the West right?

you realize LA isn’t even close to #1 in the conference right? Let alone league.

Give the damn thing to Gobert or Conley if that’s the level of thought put into the award.

But it won’t be. Which is why it’s ultimately worthless. It’s beginning to be the worst award I’ve ever seen in sports considering what it’s trying to do.


They’re only 1.5 games back of the Jazz for #1 in the conference AND league, wtf? Get into the top 3 of the conference then maybe you can talk
Gibson22
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,921
And1: 912
Joined: Jun 23, 2016
 

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#875 » by Gibson22 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:33 pm

Forte IV wrote:
lebron3-14-3 wrote:Oh, kawhi is injured, didn't catch it.

-Embiid
-Jokic
-Lebron

look like the only serious candidates rn


Stop it. Jokic isnt an MVP candidate until his team is at least top 3. And even historically speaking, he really isnt then either.


Ok but kawhi is injured
ShotCreator
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,836
And1: 2,545
Joined: May 18, 2014
Location: CF
     

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#876 » by ShotCreator » Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:56 pm

Balls Deep wrote:
ShotCreator wrote:
Balls Deep wrote:
You know the Nuggets are not even top 6 in the West right?

you realize LA isn’t even close to #1 in the conference right? Let alone league.

Give the damn thing to Gobert or Conley if that’s the level of thought put into the award.

But it won’t be. Which is why it’s ultimately worthless. It’s beginning to be the worst award I’ve ever seen in sports considering what it’s trying to do.


They’re only 1.5 games back of the Jazz for #1 in the conference AND league, wtf? Get into the top 3 of the conference then maybe you can talk

Then maybe I can talk?

Why would I listen to you say anything ever? You’re literally reading conference standings to determine MVP. But I’m the wtf guy?

What is your use here? We know who the best teams are. Your logic kills all fandom. All discussion. Just wait for the winning team and the get on your knees.

And by the way, give me your logical determination of why the hell i would ever care about top 3 seeding as opposed to say top 5? Why so arbitrary? What is the value of the rank of 3?
Swinging for the fences.
kuclas
General Manager
Posts: 7,754
And1: 3,967
Joined: Nov 08, 2016
     

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#877 » by kuclas » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:04 pm

ShotCreator wrote:
kuclas wrote:
Maze wrote:Low Key, I could see Devin Booker throwing a hat in the race.He's finally starting to look comfortable playing with CP3.Plus his team is winning this year.

Chris Paul is the real mvp of the suns. He just knows how to run an effective offense. Even at age 35. Look what he did for a young okc team last season.

People actually argued, for years, actual years, the guy is a selfish ball monopolizer who lowers a teams ceiling.

3 different franchise the past 4 years and they all know, love, and respect his game for what it is.

If this guy actually had competent teams in his prime....he’d still be underrated, but the (Please Use More Appropriate Word) arguments wouldn’t have existed so much.

CP3 on Lakers with recovering Dwight Howard and Kobe in his last great year would have been amazing

Only knock on Chris Paul is his injury history especially in the playoffs

Otherwise he’s still a fantastic player and he’s bucking the Father Time trend for small point guards who usually sees significant decline after age 30. I’d love to have him on sixers over Ben Simmons.
User avatar
psimanic1
Starter
Posts: 2,497
And1: 1,230
Joined: Jul 14, 2014

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#878 » by psimanic1 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:10 pm

Forte IV wrote:
lebron3-14-3 wrote:Oh, kawhi is injured, didn't catch it.

-Embiid
-Jokic
-Lebron

look like the only serious candidates rn


Stop it. Jokic isnt an MVP candidate until his team is at least top 3. And even historically speaking, he really isnt then either.

So this is topic for best team reward, not most VALUABLE player? If Jokic had lets say Beal, Durant, Kawhi as 2nd best player, then you could take that into account..
mademan
RealGM
Posts: 32,010
And1: 31,108
Joined: Feb 18, 2010

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#879 » by mademan » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:17 pm

psimanic1 wrote:
Forte IV wrote:
lebron3-14-3 wrote:Oh, kawhi is injured, didn't catch it.

-Embiid
-Jokic
-Lebron

look like the only serious candidates rn


Stop it. Jokic isnt an MVP candidate until his team is at least top 3. And even historically speaking, he really isnt then either.

So this is topic for best team reward, not most VALUABLE player? If Jokic had lets say Beal, Durant, Kawhi as 2nd best player, then you could take that into account..


Thats how it's always done tho. There is a precedent here. ATM, it's only Lebron and Embiid. Jokic get's into it if the Nugs climb the standings
User avatar
psimanic1
Starter
Posts: 2,497
And1: 1,230
Joined: Jul 14, 2014

Re: NBA MVP Discussion 20/21 

Post#880 » by psimanic1 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:25 pm

mademan wrote:
psimanic1 wrote:
Forte IV wrote:
Stop it. Jokic isnt an MVP candidate until his team is at least top 3. And even historically speaking, he really isnt then either.

So this is topic for best team reward, not most VALUABLE player? If Jokic had lets say Beal, Durant, Kawhi as 2nd best player, then you could take that into account..


Thats how it's always done tho. There is a precedent here. ATM, it's only Lebron and Embiid. Jokic get's into it if the Nugs climb the standings

Jokic is Top3 on every page tracking MVP leaders, but on this forum he is not even the candidate?

Return to The General Board