NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24 (Part 4: MVP Thread's Revenge)

Post #861 » by **ReasonablySober** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 5:43 am

Packbuckman · Post #862 » by **Packbuckman** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 5:45 am

Giannis is a coming he’s playing absolutely great on both sides of the ball and the bucks are following with some great ball. These next games on this road trip should be fun

Infinite Llamas · Post #863 » by **Infinite Llamas** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 5:48 am

MiltownMadness wrote:Think Giannis will pick up a lot of steam to end the season, Bucks have settled in and will go on a really nice run here. Top 2 defense since AG was fired

I mean, since Doc was hired I see…
Charlotte
Charlotte
Charlotte
Utah
Memphis
Portland
Embiid-less Sixers

Dallas, Denver and Minnesota really the only quality wins since the hire

MiltownMadness · Post #864 » by **MiltownMadness** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 5:50 am

Infinite Llamas wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:Think Giannis will pick up a lot of steam to end the season, Bucks have settled in and will go on a really nice run here. Top 2 defense since AG was fired

I mean, since Doc was hired I see…
Charlotte
Charlotte
Charlotte
Utah
Memphis
Portland
Embiid-less Sixers

Dallas, Denver and Minnesota really the only quality wins since the hire

Okay?

Those are almost all road games by the way in the midst of a midseason coaching change. Blew out the Bulls tonight on the road as well. Five wins in a row right now with 4 of them coming on the road, don't look now......

Fencer reregistered · Post #865 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 5:51 am

PierceFan4ever wrote:
Swish1906 wrote:
QPR wrote:
He doesn't pass any test other than the generic "best player on best team" test.

„Not even by thaaat much best player on best team“

He is by far the best player on the Celtics

Goddamn Mavs fans are such a salty bunch. Have fun not making the playoffs

In fairness to Mavs fans:
-- They just watched one of the few recent games in which Tatum's passing was not stellar.
-- Tatum's scoring in that game was only a little more efficient than Luka's, so Luka had the better offensive night overall by far.
-- They probably didn't notice the big defensive difference between the two.

Packbuckman · Post #866 » by **Packbuckman** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 5:52 am

Infinite Llamas wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:Think Giannis will pick up a lot of steam to end the season, Bucks have settled in and will go on a really nice run here. Top 2 defense since AG was fired

I mean, since Doc was hired I see…
Charlotte
Charlotte
Charlotte
Utah
Memphis
Portland
Embiid-less Sixers

Dallas, Denver and Minnesota really the only quality wins since the hire

You can only play who’s in front of you we have the 4th hardest schedule to end the season. The defense has been amazing since Doc took over. Giannis has been **** amazing

MiltownMadness · Post #867 » by **MiltownMadness** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 5:59 am

Bucks have held opponents under 100 points in 6 of their last 9. That's a league best this year I'm guessing

Infinite Llamas · Post #868 » by **Infinite Llamas** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 5:59 am

MiltownMadness wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:Think Giannis will pick up a lot of steam to end the season, Bucks have settled in and will go on a really nice run here. Top 2 defense since AG was fired

I mean, since Doc was hired I see…
Charlotte
Charlotte
Charlotte
Utah
Memphis
Portland
Embiid-less Sixers

Dallas, Denver and Minnesota really the only quality wins since the hire

Okay? Those are almost all road games by the way in the midst of a midseason coaching change. Blew out the Bulls tonight on the road as well. Five wins in a row right now with 4 of them coming on the road, don't look now......

I mean yeah they look great now…and then they meet up with the C’s or the Heat in the playoffs and they forget how to play basketball. But congrats on the win streak.

MiltownMadness · Post #869 » by **MiltownMadness** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 6:01 am

Infinite Llamas wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:
I mean, since Doc was hired I see…
Charlotte
Charlotte
Charlotte
Utah
Memphis
Portland
Embiid-less Sixers

Dallas, Denver and Minnesota really the only quality wins since the hire

Okay? Those are almost all road games by the way in the midst of a midseason coaching change. Blew out the Bulls tonight on the road as well. Five wins in a row right now with 4 of them coming on the road, don't look now......

I mean yeah they look great now…and then they meet up with the C’s or the Heat in the playoffs and they forget how to play basketball. But congrats on the win streak.

Nice contribution to the MVP thread. Bucks live rent free in C's fans heads always. We have a ring btw lil bro (4-0 Heat in championship year and took you to 7 without Celtics killer Khris) :lol:

LMK if you want to discuss MVP or go do something else, politely

WhatTheBuck · Post #870 » by **WhatTheBuck** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 6:13 am

Another great game by Dame tonight, carrying Giannis. Got to count against him in the MVP race.

Infinite Llamas · Post #871 » by **Infinite Llamas** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 6:20 am

MiltownMadness wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:Okay? Those are almost all road games by the way in the midst of a midseason coaching change. Blew out the Bulls tonight on the road as well. Five wins in a row right now with 4 of them coming on the road, don't look now......

I mean yeah they look great now…and then they meet up with the C’s or the Heat in the playoffs and they forget how to play basketball. But congrats on the win streak.

Nice contribution to the MVP thread. Bucks live rent free in C's fans heads always. We have a ring btw lil bro

LMK if you want to discuss MVP or go do something else, politely

Y’all are the ones bringing up Docs defense in an MVP thread. I have no idea what that has to do with anything.

Bucks were supposed to be a dominant contender but due to an idiotic coaching hire they have been a roller coaster team throughout the year. Looking dominant for the last quarter of the season isn’t really something that gets rewarded. Sure Giannis has been steadily great all year and I have him #3 behind Jokic and SGA, but Jokic has dealt with an oft injured Murray and SGA has an overachieving team so they get the nod.

WhatTheBuck · Post #872 » by **WhatTheBuck** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 6:22 am

Infinite Llamas wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:
I mean yeah they look great now…and then they meet up with the C’s or the Heat in the playoffs and they forget how to play basketball. But congrats on the win streak.

Nice contribution to the MVP thread. Bucks live rent free in C's fans heads always. We have a ring btw lil bro

LMK if you want to discuss MVP or go do something else, politely

Y’all are the ones bringing up Docs defense in an MVP thread. I have no idea what that has to do with anything.

Bucks were supposed to be a dominant contender but due to an idiotic coaching hire they have been a roller coaster team throughout the year. Looking dominant for the last quarter of the season isn’t really something that gets rewarded. Sure Giannis has been steadily great all year and I have him #3 behind Jokic and SGA, but Jokic has dealt with an oft injured Murray and SGA has an overachieving team so they get the nod.

Did you have Giannis winning it last year since he played virtually the whole year without Middleton and finished with the 1 seed?

MiltownMadness · Post #873 » by **MiltownMadness** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 6:23 am

Infinite Llamas wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:
I mean yeah they look great now…and then they meet up with the C’s or the Heat in the playoffs and they forget how to play basketball. But congrats on the win streak.

Nice contribution to the MVP thread. Bucks live rent free in C's fans heads always. We have a ring btw lil bro

LMK if you want to discuss MVP or go do something else, politely

Y’all are the ones bringing up Docs defense in an MVP thread. I have no idea what that has to do with anything.

Bucks were supposed to be a dominant contender but due to an idiotic coaching hire they have been a roller coaster team throughout the year. Looking dominant for the last quarter of the season isn’t really something that gets rewarded. Sure Giannis has been steadily great all year and I have him #3 behind Jokic and SGA, but Jokic has dealt with an oft injured Murray and SGA has an overachieving team so they get the nod.

What? MVP is literally decided by a random, tuesday night, late regular season game marquee matchup half the time. "What have you done for me lately?" is everything in sports.

Giannis is a big reason for the defense being great, that's why you bring it up, duh.

Giannis will make a run while Bucks surge, would be a good bet rn.

Infinite Llamas · Post #874 » by **Infinite Llamas** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 6:30 am

WhatTheBuck wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:Nice contribution to the MVP thread. Bucks live rent free in C's fans heads always. We have a ring btw lil bro

LMK if you want to discuss MVP or go do something else, politely

Y’all are the ones bringing up Docs defense in an MVP thread. I have no idea what that has to do with anything.

Bucks were supposed to be a dominant contender but due to an idiotic coaching hire they have been a roller coaster team throughout the year. Looking dominant for the last quarter of the season isn’t really something that gets rewarded. Sure Giannis has been steadily great all year and I have him #3 behind Jokic and SGA, but Jokic has dealt with an oft injured Murray and SGA has an overachieving team so they get the nod.

Did you have Giannis winning it last year since he played virtually the whole year without Middleton and finished with the 1 seed?

…whilst also playing alongside an all star caliber Jrue and a DPOY candidate in Lopez and an ATG regular season coach with Bud?? No.

Infinite Llamas · Post #875 » by **Infinite Llamas** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 6:39 am

MiltownMadness wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:Nice contribution to the MVP thread. Bucks live rent free in C's fans heads always. We have a ring btw lil bro

LMK if you want to discuss MVP or go do something else, politely

Y’all are the ones bringing up Docs defense in an MVP thread. I have no idea what that has to do with anything.

Bucks were supposed to be a dominant contender but due to an idiotic coaching hire they have been a roller coaster team throughout the year. Looking dominant for the last quarter of the season isn’t really something that gets rewarded. Sure Giannis has been steadily great all year and I have him #3 behind Jokic and SGA, but Jokic has dealt with an oft injured Murray and SGA has an overachieving team so they get the nod.

What? MVP is literally decided by a random, tuesday night, late regular season game marquee matchup half the time. "What have you done for me lately?" is everything in sports.

Giannis is a big reason for the defense being great, that's why you bring it up, duh.

Giannis will make a run while Bucks surge, would be a good bet rn.

The problem is that it in the west, OKC and Den are fighting it out for #1. Boston pretty much has the east on lock and the perception of that hurts Milwaukee by default. The battle for number 1 in the West is simply a more compelling story than Boston running a conference and that’s why Giannis won’t get as much praise. He and Lillard were supposed to be battling it out with the Cs for the top spot but a coaching carousel cost the bucks in the standings and the media. Just the way that it is.

Lillard was always going to hurt Giannis chances too. If he plays really great, well, he’s been a top-10 MVP guy before and it means Giannis deserves less of the share. If Dame plays like a guy pouting that he can’t see his kids and is sad that he wasn’t traded to Miami and shoots career lows it hurts Giannis too because it would cost him wins and create a narrative why can’t the two figure it out?

Packbuckman · Post #876 » by **Packbuckman** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 6:47 am

Infinite Llamas wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:
Y’all are the ones bringing up Docs defense in an MVP thread. I have no idea what that has to do with anything.

Bucks were supposed to be a dominant contender but due to an idiotic coaching hire they have been a roller coaster team throughout the year. Looking dominant for the last quarter of the season isn’t really something that gets rewarded. Sure Giannis has been steadily great all year and I have him #3 behind Jokic and SGA, but Jokic has dealt with an oft injured Murray and SGA has an overachieving team so they get the nod.

What? MVP is literally decided by a random, tuesday night, late regular season game marquee matchup half the time. "What have you done for me lately?" is everything in sports.

Giannis is a big reason for the defense being great, that's why you bring it up, duh.

Giannis will make a run while Bucks surge, would be a good bet rn.

The problem is that it in the west, OKC and Den are fighting it out for #1. Boston pretty much has the east on lock and the perception of that hurts Milwaukee by default. The battle for number 1 in the West is simply a more compelling story than Boston running a conference and that’s why Giannis won’t get as much praise. He and Lillard were supposed to be battling it out with the Cs for the top spot but a coaching carousel cost the bucks in the standings and the media. Just the way that it is.

Lillard was always going to hurt Giannis chances too. If he plays really great, well, he’s been a top-10 MVP guy before and it means Giannis deserves less of the share. If Dame plays like a guy pouting that he can’t see his kids and is sad that he wasn’t traded to Miami and shoots career lows it hurts Giannis too because it would cost him wins and create a narrative why can’t the two figure it out?

If Giannis keeps playing like this and the bucks keep winning including beating the C’s next time and close the gap he will also close the gap for mvp. Nothing is guaranteed yet going to be fun watching it unfold as a bucks fan now that we got a coach like him or not

AleksandarN · Post #877 » by **AleksandarN** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 6:47 am

Last year it was Jokic vs Embiid. Now that Embiid is out of the running I thought this thread would quiet down. I was wrong. Britney is back

Watch on YouTube

MiltownMadness · Post #878 » by **MiltownMadness** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 6:59 am

Infinite Llamas wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:
Y’all are the ones bringing up Docs defense in an MVP thread. I have no idea what that has to do with anything.

Bucks were supposed to be a dominant contender but due to an idiotic coaching hire they have been a roller coaster team throughout the year. Looking dominant for the last quarter of the season isn’t really something that gets rewarded. Sure Giannis has been steadily great all year and I have him #3 behind Jokic and SGA, but Jokic has dealt with an oft injured Murray and SGA has an overachieving team so they get the nod.

What? MVP is literally decided by a random, tuesday night, late regular season game marquee matchup half the time. "What have you done for me lately?" is everything in sports.

Giannis is a big reason for the defense being great, that's why you bring it up, duh.

Giannis will make a run while Bucks surge, would be a good bet rn.

The problem is that it in the west, OKC and Den are fighting it out for #1. Boston pretty much has the east on lock and the perception of that hurts Milwaukee by default. The battle for number 1 in the West is simply a more compelling story than Boston running a conference and that’s why Giannis won’t get as much praise. He and Lillard were supposed to be battling it out with the Cs for the top spot but a coaching carousel cost the bucks in the standings and the media. Just the way that it is.

Lillard was always going to hurt Giannis chances too. If he plays really great, well, he’s been a top-10 MVP guy before and it means Giannis deserves less of the share. If Dame plays like a guy pouting that he can’t see his kids and is sad that he wasn’t traded to Miami and shoots career lows it hurts Giannis too because it would cost him wins and create a narrative why can’t the two figure it out?

At least we can all acknowledge MVP is just narrative lmao. Giannis deserves to be at the front of the discussion, and if Bucks finish strong he has a great case

Exp0sed · Post #879 » by **Exp0sed** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 7:08 am

MiltownMadness wrote:Think Giannis will pick up a lot of steam to end the season, Bucks have settled in and will go on a really nice run here. Top 2 defense since AG was fired

indeed
Bucks are rolling, will finish 2nd or 3rd at the worst and Giannis has been great all season
the biggest knock on him preseason was adding Dame but Dame simply isn't playing well

WhatTheBuck · Post #880 » by **WhatTheBuck** » Sat Mar 2, 2024 7:10 am

Infinite Llamas wrote:
WhatTheBuck wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:
Y’all are the ones bringing up Docs defense in an MVP thread. I have no idea what that has to do with anything.

Bucks were supposed to be a dominant contender but due to an idiotic coaching hire they have been a roller coaster team throughout the year. Looking dominant for the last quarter of the season isn’t really something that gets rewarded. Sure Giannis has been steadily great all year and I have him #3 behind Jokic and SGA, but Jokic has dealt with an oft injured Murray and SGA has an overachieving team so they get the nod.

Did you have Giannis winning it last year since he played virtually the whole year without Middleton and finished with the 1 seed?

…whilst also playing alongside an all star caliber Jrue and a DPOY candidate in Lopez and an ATG regular season coach with Bud?? No.

I guess every other MVP candidate must have been playing with scrubs. At the end of the day, you can excuse what you want to excuse, but Giannis has been the best two way player in the league for about 6 years straight. You can fix any narrative around that that you want, but that's a fact.

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