James Harden traded to the Rockets

EArl · Post #881 » by **EArl** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:05 am

Thank You Thunder for trading your primary playmaker on the team. You have just destroyed your team chemistry!

xclearscreen · Post #882 » by **xclearscreen** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:06 am

bledredwine wrote:
misterrunon wrote:that's why i don't like westbrook. he's an SG stuck in a PG's body.

Yet he played better than any other PG last year's playoffs (including Rose unfortunately who would have been the other best )

Westbrook is awesome. It's only a matter of time before people start admitting how good he actually is. Proven playoff performers are the only players welcome to the "best" discussion in my book. He's one of very few.

that's why trading away Harden makes no sense. Westbrook pretty much swapped roles with Harden when they played because Harden was so good at creating and penetrating while Westbrook was a deadly scorer. nobody's saying Westbrooks sucks, relax.

Zedders · Post #883 » by **Zedders** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:07 am

edfmx86 wrote:after just about a whole nights long of drinking.... i still cant believe this!

my opinion? Thunder won this deal....and thats not even considering Lamb pans out...

What if lamb pans out? Scary team.

If Lamb pans out they might be as good a team as were last season in about 2 years.

JunkYardSubs · Post #884 » by **JunkYardSubs** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:11 am

Zedders wrote:
edfmx86 wrote:after just about a whole nights long of drinking.... i still cant believe this!

my opinion? Thunder won this deal....and thats not even considering Lamb pans out...

What if lamb pans out? Scary team.

If Lamb pans out they might be as good a team as were last season in about 2 years.

Then in 2 more years they can trade away Lamb when they cant afford to extend him

edfmx86 · Post #885 » by **edfmx86** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:14 am

ok now it feels like you all are just overrating James Harden. Lets not forget who the real deputies in this city really are. They'll miss Harden, but they won't suffer without him.

bledredwine · Post #886 » by **bledredwine** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:15 am

OKC would have been in CAP nightmare for years with 3 max players and Ibaka.

Great defensive anchors like Ibaka (with potential) are hard to fine... they want to keep that. Harden was awesome, but OKC as a small market has to pull moves like this to keep contending for years to come.

Draft/Trade.... and with Lamb and how ever many draft picks they got alongside Martin, that's 1 guaranteed and then you'd think that the chances of one other player being very good are quite high (assuming these are lotto picks)

It's about as good as they can do, and they didn't let him walk.

JunkYardSubs · Post #887 » by **JunkYardSubs** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:16 am

edfmx86 wrote:ok now it feels like you all are just overrating James Harden. Lets not forget who the real deputies in this city really are. They'll miss Harden, but they won't suffer without him.

The team will 100% suffer without Harden

SCourGe OF GoD · Post #888 » by **SCourGe OF GoD** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:19 am

eablinksum wrote:Thank You Thunder for trading your primary playmaker on the team. You have just destroyed your team chemistry!

yeah because our chemistry on our 0-8 run was amazing right?.. :roll:

Mamba Venom · Post #889 » by **Mamba Venom** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:21 am

Martin has always had the green light not to share the ball w/ the Kings and Rockets. We will see how this works.

EArl · Post #890 » by **EArl** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:21 am

BlazersRizing wrote:
Sedale Threatt wrote:ESPN reporting that OKC's best offer was $55.5 million. So Harden basically bailed out on a potential dynasty for $4.5 million. Hope he spends that money more wisely than Antoine Walker did.

‏@AschNBA: Lot of people who say James Harden should have preferred W's + $52M vs. $60M + L's would change jobs for $50 a week raise.

enough said

therealbig3 · Post #891 » by **therealbig3** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:21 am

edfmx86 wrote:ok now it feels like you all are just overrating James Harden. Lets not forget who the real deputies in this city really are. They'll miss Harden, but they won't suffer without him.

Just because he came off the bench doesn't mean he wasn't incredibly important to that team.

And a very strong case can be made that Harden was the 2nd best player for the Thunder, and that he was their best offensive player.

SCourGe OF GoD · Post #892 » by **SCourGe OF GoD** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:22 am

bledredwine wrote:OKC would have been in CAP nightmare for years with 3 max players and Ibaka.

Great defensive anchors like Ibaka (with potential) are hard to fine... they want to keep that. Harden was awesome, but OKC as a small market has to pull moves like this to keep contending for years to come.

Draft/Trade.... and with Lamb and how ever many draft picks they got alongside Martin, that's 1 guaranteed and then you'd think that the chances of one other player being very good are quite high (assuming these are lotto picks)

It's about as good as they can do, and they didn't let him walk.

+1. I was really suprised they got the Toronto pick tbh...i thought theyd just give the Dallas pick and maybe another sweetner added to lamb (Royce White/Montajuinas)

EArl · Post #893 » by **EArl** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:23 am

GhostX wrote:
eablinksum wrote:Thank You Thunder for trading your primary playmaker on the team. You have just destroyed your team chemistry!

yeah because our chemistry on our 0-8 run was amazing right?..

I love how you bring up the Lakers when we are talking about the thunder. :roll:

C_Money · Post #894 » by **C_Money** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:37 am

If the Thunder didn't overpay for Serge Ibaka they could have kept Harden. What a weird trade! This is insane!

Prestige · Post #895 » by **Prestige** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:39 am

The Rockets have already added him to their roster on their website, but he's still on OKC's team page :lol:

.. Guess they can't let him go..

therealbig3 · Post #896 » by **therealbig3** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:40 am

C_Money wrote:If the Thunder didn't overpay for Serge Ibaka they could have kept Harden. What a weird trade! This is insane!

Yeah, I definitely think picking Ibaka over Harden was a mistake.

Prestige · Post #897 » by **Prestige** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:42 am

therealbig3 wrote:
C_Money wrote:If the Thunder didn't overpay for Serge Ibaka they could have kept Harden. What a weird trade! This is insane!

Yeah, I definitely think picking Ibaka over Harden was a mistake.

You could see this coming a mile away.. A small market team with Durant and Westbrook on big contracts and Harden needing one definitely did not need to give Ibaka that type of contract.. Its like they shot themselves in the foot.. Or shot their load too early.. Whichever makes more sense..

xclearscreen · Post #898 » by **xclearscreen** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:46 am

edfmx86 wrote:ok now it feels like you all are just overrating James Harden. Lets not forget who the real deputies in this city really are. They'll miss Harden, but they won't suffer without him.

so with Westbrooks/Martin backcourt, who will be the facilitator?

Heats_Finest · Post #899 » by **Heats_Finest** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:53 am

therealbig3 wrote:
edfmx86 wrote:ok now it feels like you all are just overrating James Harden. Lets not forget who the real deputies in this city really are. They'll miss Harden, but they won't suffer without him.

Just because he came off the bench doesn't mean he wasn't incredibly important to that team.

And a very strong case can be made that Harden was the 2nd best player for the Thunder, and that he was their best offensive player.

I agree with you that he was very important to them, but saying he might of been their best offensive player is a stretch. I would say he was their 2nd best offensive player. Westbrook is a inefficient, turnover prone chucker. Harden was their best passer and scored at a very good rate. I think this was very bad for them in trading Harden but I understand that they would of been in trouble financially for years had they re-signed him with no room to move.

Lightning25 · Post #900 » by **Lightning25** » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:00 am

It looks like Harden is one of the more polarizing players on here.

The people saying the Thunder won the deal or got a good deal are the ones who don't think too highly of Harden such as myself.

The people saying the Thunder lost the deal and are no longer contenders are the ones that think Harden is a superstar, future superstar, or as good as Durant.

A poll would be good right now.