DeAndre Jordan re-signs with the Clippers, DJ rescinds agreement with the Dallas Mavericks

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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#881 » by ChargerMan » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:09 pm

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jbk1234 wrote:The Clippers' interference isn't a violation of any league rule, and no action would be taken against the organization if Jordan changed his mind, another league source said. But such a flip-flop would violate the spirit of the moratorium period, when executives and agents make deals totaling tens of millions and expect both sides to keep their word. Free-agent commitments during the moratorium also trigger a domino effect of other deals as teams clear salary-cap room for players they've agreed to deals with and those that missed out on free-agent targets make deals with other players.

"It would undermine the whole premise of the system and the ability of parties to get together shake hands and rely on it," one prominent agent told CBSSports.com. "It would be anarchy."

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/25236383/free-agent-chaos-clips-plead-with-deandre-jordan-to-nix-mavs-deal


Do those in the league forget that this isn't the first time it has happened?

"Anarchy"

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LOL yeah these beat writers must think the league has been in anarchy for awhile since this isn't new.
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#882 » by nationwidekid » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:09 pm

He wants his dkkk sucked, he isn't a game changer for the Mavs and makes the Clips ways worse if he leaves. I hope he honor his agreement with the Mavs.
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#883 » by JonFromVA » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:10 pm

Chuck Texas wrote:
Jack_Tretton wrote:I don't condone this, but nothing really happened to Utah and Boozer when they screwed the Cavs.


What Boozer did was far worse than this too.


Loozer weaseled his way out of a contract that was very favorable to the Cavs because he wanted to get paid sooner. He had an "understanding" with the Cavs that he would re-sign with them for the MLE even though it was known that another team with cap space could offer him more.

DeAndre at worst has changed his mind. That's not what I'd call morally repugnant like what Loozer did, but legally it would appear that he entered a verbal contract with the Mavericks, and if he walks away from it, he could be sued for damages. Loozer, otoh, was not permitted by the CBA to enter in to any sort of binding agreement with the Cavaliers.
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#884 » by RussellandFlow » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:11 pm

For those of you who think this will "hurt" DJ with his next contract, Carlos Boozer says hi. NBA teams want to win, and if they can sign a player who improves their chances of doing so they will.
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#885 » by Ponchos » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:12 pm

FNQ wrote:Gotta say I love the 'I don't get it' line when referring to Dallas and general fans' outrage.. yeah you do. Just embrace your contrarian take already. What DJ did (or might do, whatever) screwed a franchise. It's legal but a really crappy thing to do. If someone legitimately doesn't get that, I feel for their friends and family. If they have them. I don't get why they would though..


I get the Dallas fan's rage at DJ if he backs out. I don't get all the "NBA has no integrity"! "This ruins free agency"! "Nobody will talk to DJ again!" And lots of other nonsensical crap spewed in this thread.
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Post#886 » by Jack_Tretton » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:12 pm

Ponchos wrote:
Jack_Tretton wrote:I don't condone this, but nothing really happened to Utah and Boozer when they screwed the Cavs.


Different situation. Also the Cav's couldn't have gotten screwed unless they were violating NBA rules.


Different situation, yeah, but I don't think the we'll remember this thing is in play here. The Mavs and the Clippers will do business again in the future, as will the agent involved in this case. Just chalk it up as Deandre being immature.
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#887 » by ChargerMan » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:12 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
Chuck Texas wrote:
Jack_Tretton wrote:I don't condone this, but nothing really happened to Utah and Boozer when they screwed the Cavs.


What Boozer did was far worse than this too.


Loozer weaseled his way out of a contract that was very favorable to the Cavs because he wanted to get paid sooner. He had an "understanding" with the Cavs that he would re-sign with them for the MLE even though it was known that another team with cap space could offer him more.

DeAndre at worst has changed his mind. That's not what I'd call morally repugnant like what Loozer did, but legally it would appear that he entered a verbal contract with the Mavericks, and if he walks away from it, he could be sued for damages. Loozer, otoh, was not permitted by the CBA to enter in to any sort of binding agreement with the Cavaliers.


Verbal contracts mean squat, ask Toronto and Turkoglu or even Brand and the 76'ers, I'm sure greedy ass Sterling would have sued somebody if it was possible when Brand left him
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Post#888 » by Soupman » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:13 pm

Could we sign Kwame Brown to a max deal instead?

Screw this. If he goes back tank to get a lottery pick. Trade everyone not named dirk for picks at the deadline.
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Post#889 » by Forbes » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:13 pm

This is damn juicy!
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Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#890 » by Mr B » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:13 pm

Funny how most Clippers fans here now think that DJ is great and is a "Franchise player" when you were all singing a different turn just a few hours ago.
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#891 » by FNQ » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:13 pm

Ponchos wrote:
FNQ wrote:Gotta say I love the 'I don't get it' line when referring to Dallas and general fans' outrage.. yeah you do. Just embrace your contrarian take already. What DJ did (or might do, whatever) screwed a franchise. It's legal but a really crappy thing to do. If someone legitimately doesn't get that, I feel for their friends and family. If they have them. I don't get why they would though..


I get the Dallas fan's rage at DJ if he backs out. I don't get all the "NBA has no integrity"! "This ruins free agency"! "Nobody will talk to DJ again!" And lots of other nonsensical crap spewed in this thread.


That's fair

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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#892 » by semi-sentient » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:13 pm

I want this to happen just to see what the fallout would be... lol.
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Post#893 » by RebelWithACause » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:15 pm

Are there any news, or just people speculating?

Could someone sum up this thread without having to read all the way through it?
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Post#894 » by ChargerMan » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:15 pm

Mr B wrote:Funny how most Clippers fans here now think that DJ is great and is a "Franchise player" when you were all singing a different turn just a few hours ago.


I always said DJ was overrated defensively but provided key rebounding and rim protection which is perfect next to Blake.
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#895 » by jbk1234 » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:16 pm

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jbk1234 wrote:The Clippers' interference isn't a violation of any league rule, and no action would be taken against the organization if Jordan changed his mind, another league source said. But such a flip-flop would violate the spirit of the moratorium period, when executives and agents make deals totaling tens of millions and expect both sides to keep their word. Free-agent commitments during the moratorium also trigger a domino effect of other deals as teams clear salary-cap room for players they've agreed to deals with and those that missed out on free-agent targets make deals with other players.

"It would undermine the whole premise of the system and the ability of parties to get together shake hands and rely on it," one prominent agent told CBSSports.com. "It would be anarchy."

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/25236383/free-agent-chaos-clips-plead-with-deandre-jordan-to-nix-mavs-deal


Do those in the league forget that this isn't the first time it has happened?

"Anarchy"

:noway:


It's not an annual event though. It's not common. It is rare and it's the first time it's happened with a player of DeAndre's caliber who could command a max deal. I think the concern that people have league wide is that it could become common. The Boozer scenario ensured that teams tendered QOs to any RFA they had any interest in retaining. It impacted future behavior.

If you're Fegan, you have to decide whether you can continue to represent DeAndre if he intends on signing with the Clippers. The Clippers went around you after your client made his decision, your client back out in the 11th hour after the FA market dried up, and those are two norms that were violated.
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Post#896 » by inquisitive » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:16 pm

I guess the signing isn't official until he actually signs on July 9th? Didn't Turk change his mind also when he accepted Blazer's offer...then decided he wanted to play in Toronto instead?
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Post#897 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:16 pm

Adam Silver will probably take action if DeAndre Jordan does in fact renege, in terms of changing/amending FA rules.
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Post#898 » by Texas Chuck » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:16 pm

RebelWithACause wrote:Are there any news, or just people speculating?

Could someone sum up this thread without having to read all the way through it?


its mostly fellatio references and internet tough guys calling everyone a bitch...
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Post#900 » by Nowitness » Wed Jul 8, 2015 9:17 pm

RebelWithACause wrote:Are there any news, or just people speculating?

Could someone sum up this thread without having to read all the way through it?


It's still up in the air a little, but he's apparently leaning towards returning to LA.
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