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basketballRob wrote:He's got shooting guard speed with a bunch of length.NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Franz Wagner is really impressive, can switch onto 1-5 in a pinch, guards ball handlers well and apparently likes dunking on the Knicks. The Magic got a really really good one with him.
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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:basketballRob wrote:He's got shooting guard speed with a bunch of length.NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Franz Wagner is really impressive, can switch onto 1-5 in a pinch, guards ball handlers well and apparently likes dunking on the Knicks. The Magic got a really really good one with him.
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I like him a lot, he's what you want from a modern forward.
SOUL wrote:thelead wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:Wow man... Suggs might actually be a bust.
13pts (3/4 from 3), 4ast, 3 stls, 1 blk, 2 TOs in 25 minutes for a rookie... I just don't understand bust but okay
And great defense.. Raps fans reaching again
LoveMyRaps wrote:SOUL wrote:thelead wrote:13pts (3/4 from 3), 4ast, 3 stls, 1 blk, 2 TOs in 25 minutes for a rookie... I just don't understand bust but okay
And great defense.. Raps fans reaching again
Calm down lol. Didn't realize y'all would get triggered so easily. I'm still extremely high on Suggs but my point stands from earlier in the season (one I also made on the Magic forum), him and Anthony cannot co-exist.
. Even if he never becomes a #1 or 2 on offense he does a lot of nice things out there. Efficiency will come since no rookies are ever that efficient (maybe Barnes and a few others this year but otherwise rooks will struggle). 
SOUL wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:SOUL wrote:
And great defense.. Raps fans reaching again
Calm down lol. Didn't realize y'all would get triggered so easily. I'm still extremely high on Suggs but my point stands from earlier in the season (one I also made on the Magic forum), him and Anthony cannot co-exist.
I just feel like I've seen that little comment all the time in this thread from Raps fans in particular
Cole is being forced into a lead ball handling role until Fultz is back and Suggs tightens his handle. Cole's best role is a #1 option off the bench which will probably happen when Ross is traded and Fultz comes back and healthy
Marcus wrote:You'd prefer Fultz as primary over Cole?
SOUL wrote:Marcus wrote:You'd prefer Fultz as primary over Cole?
As a primary ballhandler until Suggs can take over, for sure. He pushes the pace really well and can get into the lane easily. Shot is way worse than Cole but yeah. Cole is probably better in late game situations and deserves to run a lot of the offense from the bench. I just think it's his most optimal role long-term but for now, Cole has exceeded expectations and is playing really well. If he can add that to his game in the next year or two it might be different, and Fultz contract runs out in 2 years so maybe things will change.
MotownMadness wrote:Kid has been a great leader already. He understands he's the #1 option while always playing team ball but takes over when its the final couple mins.?s=20
SOUL wrote:Marcus wrote:You'd prefer Fultz as primary over Cole?
As a primary ballhandler until Suggs can take over, for sure. He pushes the pace really well and can get into the lane easily. Shot is way worse than Cole but yeah. Cole is probably better in late game situations and deserves to run a lot of the offense from the bench. I just think it's his most optimal role long-term but for now, Cole has exceeded expectations and is playing really well. If he can add that to his game in the next year or two it might be different, and Fultz contract runs out in 2 years so maybe things will change.
eyeatoma wrote:You guys still dont' get it. Playoff accomplishment don't matter when you're up for your 1st MVP. When you're up for your 3rd in a row, damn straight it matters, as the only ones who done it are top 15 players of all time who have won rings.
MotownMadness wrote:thelead wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:Wow man... Suggs might actually be a bust.
I doubt it. A star? Maybe not but certainly not a bust. He's too good on defense and his jumper looks fine. The shots just aren't falling.
Yeah Suggs will eventually be a Billups type of floor general in my opinion down the road
QingJames wrote:SOUL wrote:Marcus wrote:You'd prefer Fultz as primary over Cole?
As a primary ballhandler until Suggs can take over, for sure. He pushes the pace really well and can get into the lane easily. Shot is way worse than Cole but yeah. Cole is probably better in late game situations and deserves to run a lot of the offense from the bench. I just think it's his most optimal role long-term but for now, Cole has exceeded expectations and is playing really well. If he can add that to his game in the next year or two it might be different, and Fultz contract runs out in 2 years so maybe things will change.
I just don’t see Suggs ever being able to be that primary ballhandler. His handle is really bad for that role and he can’t go East-West.
He’s better as a big 2 IMO, where his defense can really shine. I think he has the capacity to turn into a good spot-up shooter. I just don’t trust him at all to run an offense, especially in the halfcourt given how limited his own scoring game is.
Creativetran wrote:MotownMadness wrote:thelead wrote:I doubt it. A star? Maybe not but certainly not a bust. He's too good on defense and his jumper looks fine. The shots just aren't falling.
Yeah Suggs will eventually be a Billups type of floor general in my opinion down the road
That is a perfect comparison I really hope it doesn’t take how many years to get to that level like it took for him, funny thing we had Billuos for a year or so before you pull up. Never even gave the guy a chance.
MotownMadness wrote:Creativetran wrote:MotownMadness wrote:Yeah Suggs will eventually be a Billups type of floor general in my opinion down the road
That is a perfect comparison I really hope it doesn’t take how many years to get to that level like it took for him, funny thing we had Billuos for a year or so before you pull up. Never even gave the guy a chance.
Didn't know Billups was ever with Orlando lol
