Tatum VS Luka

[Bob8]

Melo was pretty much the whole offense on those Nuggets teams. So yeah the comparison seems pretty good to me.

We both know damn well no one expected Boston to be in the finals after being 18-21. That's why it's so impressive what he has just accomplished. Getting past KD/Kyrie, Giannis, Butler is not an easy task at all. You can point at the team mates Luka has, but they were still able to win playoff games WITHOUT him which speaks volumes about how good they were. So you're overexaggerating how bad they were if they were still able to win games without Luka in the playoffs.

And yeah even if Tatum loses to a loaded Warriors team he will still be viewed as the superior player to me. He's had a historic playoff run. Luka will need to do something similar in my eyes to top him.

Nets were a mess all year long and that can't be undone in playoffs. Bucks and Heat had big problems with injuries. But I agree Celtics had great playoffs.

I'm not exaggerating anything. Can you honestly say that Tatum hasn't better roster?

It's ok for Tatum to lose against loaded Warriors but not for Luka? Why?

Historic playoffs run normally ends with a title.

Nets still had KD and Kyrie who were an injury away from beating Milwaukee last year. Boston had a bit of injuries as well including Tatum so not really a good excuse there.

Tatum took down HOFers in this playoff run to get to the finals. That's why it's historic.

If Boston wins the chip, do you still think Luka is better?

I didn't know that Tatum did it by himself. I believe you said D was crucial and Boston has multiple good defenders, including DPOY. Nothing historic, if they lose in Finals.

I believe Luka is better player, but if Boston wins, Tatum will be more successful player. Luka is 1 year younger, so he will have time to catch him.

[3toheadmelo]

Nets were a mess all year long and that can't be undone in playoffs. Bucks and Heat had big problems with injuries. But I agree Celtics had great playoffs.

I'm not exaggerating anything. Can you honestly say that Tatum hasn't better roster?

It's ok for Tatum to lose against loaded Warriors but not for Luka? Why?

Historic playoffs run normally ends with a title.

Nets still had KD and Kyrie who were an injury away from beating Milwaukee last year. Boston had a bit of injuries as well including Tatum so not really a good excuse there.

Tatum took down HOFers in this playoff run to get to the finals. That's why it's historic.

If Boston wins the chip, do you still think Luka is better?

I didn't know that Tatum did it by himself. I believe you said D was crucial and Boston has multiple good defenders, including DPOY. Nothing historic, if they lose in Finals.

I believe Luka is better player, but if Boston wins, Tatum will be more successful player. Luka is 1 year younger, so he will have time to catch him.

It's a team sport of course. Just like how Dallas was able to win 2 games without Luka in the playoffs, despite the over exaggeration of how bad they are. But Tatum led them to the finals. Not sure how you can dispute that.

Anyways this was fun. Spent enough of my day going back and forth. If Luka gets to the finals we can revisit this. Enjoy your day man!

[Jkam31]

**** idiots said switching luka and Tatum would make both teams bad lol

Lila with smart, brown, Al, and Timelord win 4 straight rings

[DroseReturnChi]

like i said countless times, celtics dont need tatum at all with 3 and Ds littered. his skillset doesnt make boston next level they still won with him non existent. bostons biggest issue is ball handling closing ability which luka all provides. if doncic had a 2nd option like even brown he would have won 3 titles.

29 teams would take luka in a nanosecond. the only team that would take tatum are warriors as kd replacement and dynasty teams that need a 3 and D body to rest lebron and MJ.

[AussieCeltic]

like i said countless times, celtics dont need tatum at all with 3 and Ds littered. his skillset doesnt make boston next level they still won with him non existent. bostons biggest issue is ball handling closing ability which luka all provides. if doncic had a 2nd option like even brown he would have won 3 titles.

29 teams would take luka in a nanosecond. the only team that would take tatum are warriors as kd replacement and dynasty teams that need a 3 and D body to rest lebron and MJ.

Why do you think all those 3’s were wide open? The whole Warriors defense is zoned in on Tatum.

He literally had 13 assists

[PierceFan4ever]

**** idiots said switching luka and Tatum would make both teams bad lol

Lila with smart, brown, Al, and Timelord win 4 straight rings

Luka’s defense is trash and would have been picked apart like last series. Everyone from Poole to curry to Wiggins to Klay we’re having a field day against Luka.

Tatum also had 13 assists tonight and again played elite defense and wasn’t forcing bad shots today. He missed a lot of clean looks.

It’s just 1 game….Luka had one of the worst performances I’ve seen him play in game 5 against the warriors besides that late stretch in the 3rd.

[agentofatlas]

**** idiots said switching luka and Tatum would make both teams bad lol

Lila with smart, brown, Al, and Timelord win 4 straight rings

Luka’s defense is trash and would have been picked apart like last series. Everyone from Poole to curry to Wiggins to Klay we’re having a field day against Luka.

Tatum also had 13 assists tonight and again played elite defense and wasn’t forcing bad shots today. He missed a lot of clean looks.

It’s just 1 game….Luka had one of the worst performances I’ve seen him play in game 5 against the warriors besides that late stretch in the 3rd.

C'mon man Tatum got carried out there by Brown and Horford. That's alright to admit. Tatum doesn't need to be consistent for Boston to win. That's a great problem to have imo.

[PierceFan4ever]

**** idiots said switching luka and Tatum would make both teams bad lol

Lila with smart, brown, Al, and Timelord win 4 straight rings

Luka’s defense is trash and would have been picked apart like last series. Everyone from Poole to curry to Wiggins to Klay we’re having a field day against Luka.

Tatum also had 13 assists tonight and again played elite defense and wasn’t forcing bad shots today. He missed a lot of clean looks.

It’s just 1 game….Luka had one of the worst performances I’ve seen him play in game 5 against the warriors besides that late stretch in the 3rd.

C'mon man Tatum got carried out there by Brown and Horford. That's alright to admit. Tatum doesn't need to be consistent for Boston to win. That's a great problem to have imo.

This is like the first time in a long ass time that I remembered seeing the Celtics win with Tatum having a very bad shooting night. Yeah Tatum was not good today shooting the ball but he was great everything else. This 1 game shouldn’t represent that the Celtics can win against anyone with him struggling. The Celtics all season have relied heavily on Tatum, he had the best on/off numbers in the league, he had the best plus minus in this whole playoff run. If Tatum was so bad, Ime would not have played him the whole second half. It was just missed open shots for JT that he’s gonna be better at but I’m just responding to that one poster drawing a whole ass conclusion after 1 game

[3toheadmelo]

His playmaking growth has been super fun to watch. His ability to affect the game in other areas when his shot isn't falling is huge for Boston. Winning players doing winning things.

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[OkcSinceSGA]

This is exactly an example of what I said about Tatum’s inconsistencies as “the guy”. 12 points on 3-17 shooting in the finals. Sure he turned in a great playmaking performance, but Luka does that every night. A bad game for Luka is 20/10 normally.

[mpoo_sin]

Another prime example why it is funny that people try to argue that Tatum is on the same level as Doncic.
Laughable. Saying he played great defense is laughable too. Newsflash: today he mostly guarded Wiggins standing in the corner, occasionally switched on Thompson.

Boston won despite Tatum today.

"bu-bu-but they double-teamed him!!" Freaking Tatum missed wide open threes, missed lay ups while being guarded by Curry...

His team won, i guess he is a "winning player".

Amazing feat.

[advent11]

Atrocious game by Tatum. Tatum proponents trying to spin harder than Jen Psaki.

[AussieCeltic]

This is exactly an example of what I said about Tatum’s inconsistencies as “the guy”. 12 points on 3-17 shooting in the finals. Sure he turned in a great playmaking performance, but Luka does that every night. A bad game for Luka is 20/10 normally.

Luka was 6-18 with 4 assists and a game low -30 against these exact Warriors in game 1 only a few weeks ago.

[meatball sub]

Luka got DISMANTLED on the defensive end by this Warriors team -- they targeted him every single game.

[mpoo_sin]

"Tatum appeared to have some early jitters in his first Finals game, as he bricked back-to-back free throws during his first trip to the line, and he missed more than a handful of shots he typically makes. The Dubs did do a nice job of making things tough on him, but he’s not going to miss wide-open looks all series long, and it’s a problem for Golden State that Boston was able to get the win despite their superstar struggling this badly. Look for him to be even better in Game 2."

[playa-hater]

Tatum the Wing had 13 assists while Luka the ball dominating PG had a high of 9 and a low of 4 asts after 5 games with GS..

[Spin Move]

Atrocious game by Tatum. Tatum proponents trying to spin harder than Jen Psaki.

Huh really? going political on top of the bad take weird choice.He had 13 assists to 2 turnovers, he shot badly but his passing was huge. He affected the game with his defesne and passing, there will be nights the shots don't fall this was one of them he still found a way to help his team win.

[ORL_on_FIRE]

Luka needs a better team. Thats about it.

[3toheadmelo]

This is exactly an example of what I said about Tatum’s inconsistencies as “the guy”. 12 points on 3-17 shooting in the finals. Sure he turned in a great playmaking performance, but Luka does that every night. A bad game for Luka is 20/10 normally.

Luka was 6-18 with 4 assists and a game low -30 against these exact Warriors in game 1 only a few weeks ago.

Don’t forget Lukas atrocious defense as well!

[SelfishPlayer]

This is an example of why it's easier to win with a player like Tatum, because he plays defense and on a terrible shooting night he can fall back on being a playmaker. The greats are known for this, when their shot isn't going they look for their teammates. Tatum got assists, he didn't just defer.