Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony

[kombayn]

Anthony will get traded at the deadline to me. Denver can wait until then to get a deal they want.

[Gus McCrae]

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[cb1115]

It's definitley been quiet today. Woj hasn't said anything since the threat Denver supposedly made to NJ. I suspect we'll hear something later on tonight.

[Death Knight]

As some have have speculated, Nuggets holding out in order to keep the Nets down for a little bit longer so that their draft pick can be as high as it can be. Nets have some work to do though. Those Cavs are determined to get themselves a new franchise player in the draft and are tanking harder than anyone can imagine. Not that there might be one in the draft or not, but it's their only hope.

[Death Knight]

Anthony will get traded at the deadline to me. Denver can wait until then to get a deal they want.

How about the Knicks trade Anthony Randolph for a first rounder like they've said a long time ago? Obviously they aren't committed in this process. Denver doesn't want to trade with New York? Same thing the other way. New York doesn't want to trade with Denver.

Set Anthony Randolph free already!!!

[J Smitty]

The trade talks being so public don't help anyone. It becomes a huge distraction for the teams and players involved(as evidenced by recent play of those involved), it lends to a lot of criticism and scrutiny by media and public over things that may not even be accurate, and it delays the process quite a bit.

Whether that 'threat' was true or not, things have definitely become more quiet recently, and that's the way they wanted it.

[J Smitty]

As some have have speculated, Nuggets holding out in order to keep the Nets down for a little bit longer so that their draft pick can be as high as it can be. Nets have some work to do though. Those Cavs are determined to get themselves a new franchise player in the draft and are tanking harder than anyone can imagine. Not that there might be one in the draft or not, but it's their only hope.

You really think a team would stall on something this massive and important to their franchise's future, just so the team's record who's pick their getting would be a little worse? Really?

[Blackmun]

How about the Knicks trade Anthony Randolph for a first rounder like they've said a long time ago?

They are not pulling the trigger until a possible Melo trade is ready. Getting a first rounder for Randolph is probably easy enough.

You really think a team would stall on something this massive and important to their franchise's future, just so the team's record who's pick their getting would be a little worse? Really?

Yes.

[elbowthrower]

Not likely. There is absolutely ZERO benefit for the Nuggets at this point if the Nets and the Pistons were to all of a sudden work with Denver to keep things under wraps.

That's if you buy into your conspiracy theory that the Nugs are just trying to milk a better deal from the Knicks.

As long as I can remember, the Nugs tend to keep deals under wraps and Kroenke is a highly secretive and low-profile owner (kind of the anti-Cuban). I wouldn't be surprised if he ripped Uriji for letting all of the leaks get out and therefore Uriji ripped the other parties involved.

Why let the media run with every little play-by-play in this drama? All it does is get Carmelo and other players riled up before they know the full deal. And the media commentary on the specifics before the deal is done can cause everyone to second-guess themselves. All of that can kill a deal.

Beyond that, when the players read all of this stuff it affects them. They read their names in rumors and wonder about their organization's loyalties. They play like crap (look at the Nugs lately), put a bad product on the floor, and as a result the owners sell fewer tickets and alienate fans.

No good can come from a public spectacle like this unless you're a bored RealGM reader.

[Blackmun]

Not likely. There is absolutely ZERO benefit for the Nuggets at this point if the Nets and the Pistons were to all of a sudden work with Denver to keep things under wraps.

That's if you buy into your conspiracy theory that the Nugs are just trying to milk a better deal from the Knicks.

Publicity is a good thing, no matter who you are trying to milk a better deal out of.

[J Smitty]

You really think a team would stall on something this massive and important to their franchise's future, just so the team's record who's pick their getting would be a little worse? Really?

Yes.

Well then you'd be delusional and incredibly simple minded.

[Blackmun]

Well then you'd be delusional and incredibly simple minded.

I'm delusional and incredibly simple minded for thinking a GM could put the best interest of his team first, instead of the best interest of the guy forcing his way out of the team?

Do you have a rational argument to back that up with, or are you just sticking with the (Please Use More Appropriate Word) insult?

[elbowthrower]

Not likely. There is absolutely ZERO benefit for the Nuggets at this point if the Nets and the Pistons were to all of a sudden work with Denver to keep things under wraps.

That's if you buy into your conspiracy theory that the Nugs are just trying to milk a better deal from the Knicks.

Publicity is a good thing, no matter who you are trying to milk a better deal out of.

Knicks, Clippers, Rockets, whatever.

Publicity is not a good thing when it can kill deals and cause people to doubt themselves.

The Nugs can just as easily leverage other offers in closed-door conversations as they can by letting a bunch of crap float around on Twitter.

[J Smitty]

Well then you'd be delusional and incredibly simple minded.

I'm delusional and incredibly simple minded for thinking a GM could put the best interest of his team first, instead of the best interest of the guy forcing his way out of the team?

Do you have a rational argument to back that up with, or are you just sticking with the (Please Use More Appropriate Word) insult?

When was that ever part of my original question? Sure the Nets losing a couple more games helps the Nuggets in the future, if they happen to get an unprotected first this year from NJ. But to say that the possibility of maybe, at best, making the pick you receive one or two spots better (by waiting) than it will be if you do the deal now...while delaying this whole thing, risking the possibility of the deal collapsing, etc is worth that? Maybe that's the kind of logic and form of business you would use in such a situation, but no NBA GM got their job by being that kind of decision maker.

[bruddahmanmatt]

Not likely. There is absolutely ZERO benefit for the Nuggets at this point if the Nets and the Pistons were to all of a sudden work with Denver to keep things under wraps.

That's if you buy into your conspiracy theory that the Nugs are just trying to milk a better deal from the Knicks.

As long as I can remember, the Nugs tend to keep deals under wraps and Kroenke is a highly secretive and low-profile owner (kind of the anti-Cuban). I wouldn't be surprised if he ripped Uriji for letting all of the leaks get out and therefore Uriji ripped the other parties involved.

Why let the media run with every little play-by-play in this drama? All it does is get Carmelo and other players riled up before they know the full deal. And the media commentary on the specifics before the deal is done can cause everyone to second-guess themselves. All of that can kill a deal.

Beyond that, when the players read all of this stuff it affects them. They read their names in rumors and wonder about their organization's loyalties. They play like crap (look at the Nugs lately), put a bad product on the floor, and as a result the owners sell fewer tickets and alienate fans.

No good can come from a public spectacle like this unless you're a bored RealGM reader.

Not really. At this point everyone is well aware of the trade talks. We know the names of all the major players involved in any potential trade. It's futile at this point for Denver to swoop in and tell New Jersey "hush" when they've done just as much if not MORE talking to the media than the other two teams involved in NJ and DET. If they really wanted to keep things under wraps, perhaps they should have looked at themselves and kept everything quiet from the get-go, or perhaps they should tell Leon Rose and his peeps to STFU since it's pretty obvious that he's one of the main driving forces behind these recent shenanigans. Denver is doing a lot of talking but that's pretty much all their doing at the moment...talking.

[Blackmun]

Publicity is not a good thing when it can kill deals and cause people to doubt themselves.

Please show me one time in history when a team like the Nets have pulled out of a deal for a player like Melo because details of the proposed trade got known to the media.

Just one. All I ask for.

[elbowthrower]

Not really. At this point everyone is well aware of the trade talks. We know the names of all the major players involved in any potential trade. It's futile at this point for Denver to swoop in and tell New Jersey "hush" when they've done just as much if not MORE talking to the media than the other two teams involved in NJ and DET.

Really? How do you know that?

[thamadkant]

I will not be surprise if the trade falls through..

Nuggets are robbing Nets with the current trade.

Not only do they get Favors, Harris and this year's Nets's pick (projected to be top 10). They also unload Billups and have a bunch of young up and comers coming in.

This, with Carmelo Anthony pretty much have the FINAL CALL on the trade, due to him not extended... Nuggets have no leverage really.


Nets are going after the wrong franchise player.... assuming Melo is set to play for Knicks.

Why couldnt they chase Chris Paul instead?.... Hornets will listen surely with the draft picks and all

[Blackmun]

Why couldnt they chase Chris Paul instead?.... Hornets will listen surely with the draft picks and all

Because Melo's contract is expiring this summer, and well, Chris Paul's isn't.

[corona]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=4kf3p2r

picks to nuggets
2nd round to detroit
possibly some kind of protected pick from nuggets to portland? (not sure on their thoughts of harris for miller/batum)

denver keeps billups so the nets don't have to buy him out or anything, and billups doesn't have to leave his hometown.
nets take harrington. probably compete for lower seed this year, then can make some moves and take a run at cp3 or whatever their goals are once they have melo.

or take batum out, and denver gets picks from the blazers.