2024 NBA FINALS: #1 Boston Celtics vs #5 Dallas Mavericks (Game 1: Thursday June 6th)

[SweetTouch]

Ngl I might change my pick from Dallas to Celtics after hearing the inside info of what Brad Stevens’s has told his players to do

Surprised other teams have t done this to kyrie

[Sweet Serenity]

Ngl I might change my pick from Dallas to Celtics after hearing the inside info of what Brad Stevens’s has told his players to do

Surprised other teams have t done this to kyrie

What did he say ?

[Zespetjest]

46 pages of back and forth and 1st game is 5 days away still

[UglyBugBall]

Yeah lol UglyBugBall treated the Celtics board to 8 straight hours of him telling us we don't know anything about the Mavs but he knows all about the Celtics and PJ Washington is about to lock up both Jays simultaneously. Good times.

UglyBugBall is not writing on Mavs , I'm not convinced he's Mavs fan.

Check my post when I bet 500 on Mavs making the finals before playoffs started. Won a nice little bag. I said I'm not confident enough to pick them over the Celtics at the time once they make the finals. But I've seen enough since then and I'm confident now.

[UglyBugBall]

I gotta give Celtics mods credit here though. They letting Mavs fans jaw in here within reason. That deserves respect.

And to be fair I respect the Celtics as a team too. There's no shame in being the second best team in the NBA.

You better hope your Mavs win mate. Being confident is one thing but arrogance over something you have no control over is just asking for trouble.

I'm only arrogant because this whole board is arrogant. All the Celtics fans think this is an easy matchup they win in 5. Reality is, I acknowledge this will be our toughest series. Will I be shocked if we lose? No. I think we'll win but the Celtics are no joke. The problem is the Celtics think we're a joke. The same way the wolves kept saying the real WCF was in the second round. The way OKC fans kept saying they matchup well.

There's so much lack of respect towards the Mavs man.

It'd be nice to have a civil discussion of both teams and how this series will develop, but I come into this thread and start reading and all I see is Celtics in 5, easy matchup, best matchup from the west etc etc.

I'd prefer talking about the matchups and how you guys think porzingis will play, what do you guys think you'll focus on offense and back and forth from there. I think the reality is neither teams fanbase knows the other team that well. I don't watch a ton of Celtics and Celtics fans don't watch a ton of Mavericks. That's how fans go. We both just watch our teams dominating and think we're invincible. But both teams are elite.

I think the Mavs fans acknowledge that of the Celtics though on the Mavs boards. The Celtics fans seem to think we're just breakfast.

[Sweet Serenity]

I gotta give Celtics mods credit here though. They letting Mavs fans jaw in here within reason. That deserves respect.

And to be fair I respect the Celtics as a team too. There's no shame in being the second best team in the NBA.

You better hope your Mavs win mate. Being confident is one thing but arrogance over something you have no control over is just asking for trouble.

I'm only arrogant because this whole board is arrogant. All the Celtics fans think this is an easy matchup they win in 5.

Bit of pot calling the kettle black considering you think the Mavs are going to win in 5 lol

[Astaluego]

My god, it's no wonder why this place is such a laughing stock.

The Celtics had a record of 23-7 against the Western Conference this season.

How did they do against the top 5 in the west? honest question...

5-5 .500 which isnt bad at all

Well, the Mavs just went 12-5 against the 4/3/1 seeds, all 50+ win teams, I think that explains why we can compete very well against the best teams.

[UglyBugBall]

You better hope your Mavs win mate. Being confident is one thing but arrogance over something you have no control over is just asking for trouble.

I'm only arrogant because this whole board is arrogant. All the Celtics fans think this is an easy matchup they win in 5.

Bit of pot calling the kettle black considering you think the Mavs are going to win in 5 lol

I expanded my answer above. I actually think this goes 6-7 if I remove the hype glasses. And I wouldn't be shocked if either team wins although I give the edge to the Mavs. But not a big one. But I come to lurk on this board to see what Celtics fans think and all I see if Celtics in 5. Easy matchup. We can't guard. Etc.

So yeah, I'm gonna throw in some Mavs hype to the pot.

I do think yall sleeping on pj, lively and djj big time. I don't think we match up poorly, but Inot great either. I'd say it's even. Yeah our rookie center is a rookie, but he's outplayed a multiple all star and 4 time dpoy. Our guys don't have the resumes. Djj is a journeyman. PJ was not a defender. Lively is a rookie. Gafford was just a random energy big.

But I'm this team they are punching way above their weight class. They are playing suffocating defense even if the resume says they shouldn't be able to.

Am I sleeping on Jrue, white and Horford?

Probably.

I'd like to know what kind of defensive scheme you guys think they go with? For stopping the lob and drive?

I'm guessing well sell out on the 3, which you guys could punish us for. But, I'm just guessing, you guys might also sell out on the 3 trusting that you have better shooters, which is true.

[Astaluego]

My god, it's no wonder why this place is such a laughing stock.

The Celtics had a record of 23-7 against the Western Conference this season.

How did they do against the top 5 in the west? honest question...

Better record than the Mavs against the top 5 in the East which is saying something because I’ve been told the East is so much weaker than the West ..

.. you didn't answer the question.. Boston has shown that they are very consistent, regular and can destroy the inferior competition..5/5 against teams of +50 wins (12/5 the Mavs in these playoffs against teams of +50 victories)..I am not trying to discredit the Celtics, they are a super team, just to show that the level is more even than they claim, we have a final between the best possible teams

[Sweet Serenity]

I gotta give Celtics mods credit here though. They letting Mavs fans jaw in here within reason. That deserves respect.

And to be fair I respect the Celtics as a team too. There's no shame in being the second best team in the NBA.

You better hope your Mavs win mate. Being confident is one thing but arrogance over something you have no control over is just asking for trouble.

I'm only arrogant because this whole board is arrogant. All the Celtics fans think this is an easy matchup they win in 5. Reality is, I acknowledge this will be our toughest series. Will I be shocked if we lose? No. I think we'll win but the Celtics are no joke. The problem is the Celtics think we're a joke. The same way the wolves kept saying the real WCF was in the second round. The way OKC fans kept saying they matchup well.

There's so much lack of respect towards the Mavs man.

It'd be nice to have a civil discussion of both teams and how this series will develop, but I come into this thread and start reading and all I see is Celtics in 5, easy matchup, best matchup from the west etc etc.

I'd prefer talking about the matchups and how you guys think porzingis will play, what do you guys think you'll focus on offense and back and forth from there. I think the reality is neither teams fanbase knows the other team that well. I don't watch a ton of Celtics and Celtics fans don't watch a ton of Mavericks. That's how fans go. We both just watch our teams dominating and think we're invincible. But both teams are elite.

I think the Mavs fans acknowledge that of the Celtics though on the Mavs boards. The Celtics fans seem to think we're just breakfast.

On the Celtics Board ..

I think the mavs are just a bad matchup for the Celtics so I'd wager this goes Mavs in 6, but Mavs in 5 wouldn't surprise me. I'm hoping I'm wrong though I'd enjoy a longer series. Good luck though, I think the Celtics have a bright future.

Well find out soon enough. DJJ and PJ Washington Penetentiary have put every team in jail. Tatum and brown about to be arrested and released to Cancun.

Yeah, but only the Celtics are going to Mr. PJ Washington Penetentiary first.

Then you'll have seen that all the wolves fans voted for wolves in 5 or 6 too. Before that OKC said in 5 or 6. I read the same from the clippers fans. All of them are in Cancun now. Hope Tatum booked his hotel.

[UglyBugBall]

You better hope your Mavs win mate. Being confident is one thing but arrogance over something you have no control over is just asking for trouble.

I'm only arrogant because this whole board is arrogant. All the Celtics fans think this is an easy matchup they win in 5. Reality is, I acknowledge this will be our toughest series. Will I be shocked if we lose? No. I think we'll win but the Celtics are no joke. The problem is the Celtics think we're a joke. The same way the wolves kept saying the real WCF was in the second round. The way OKC fans kept saying they matchup well.

There's so much lack of respect towards the Mavs man.

It'd be nice to have a civil discussion of both teams and how this series will develop, but I come into this thread and start reading and all I see is Celtics in 5, easy matchup, best matchup from the west etc etc.

I'd prefer talking about the matchups and how you guys think porzingis will play, what do you guys think you'll focus on offense and back and forth from there. I think the reality is neither teams fanbase knows the other team that well. I don't watch a ton of Celtics and Celtics fans don't watch a ton of Mavericks. That's how fans go. We both just watch our teams dominating and think we're invincible. But both teams are elite.

I think the Mavs fans acknowledge that of the Celtics though on the Mavs boards. The Celtics fans seem to think we're just breakfast.

On the Celtics Board ..

I think the mavs are just a bad matchup for the Celtics so I'd wager this goes Mavs in 6, but Mavs in 5 wouldn't surprise me. I'm hoping I'm wrong though I'd enjoy a longer series. Good luck though, I think the Celtics have a bright future.

Well find out soon enough. DJJ and PJ Washington Penetentiary have put every team in jail. Tatum and brown about to be arrested and released to Cancun.

Yeah, but only the Celtics are going to Mr. PJ Washington Penetentiary first.

Then you'll have seen that all the wolves fans voted for wolves in 5 or 6 too. Before that OKC said in 5 or 6. I read the same from the clippers fans. All of them are in Cancun now. Hope Tatum booked his hotel.

Yeah already said why. Because of how unseriously they took the Mavs the entire thread.

[ajones9219]

I'm only arrogant because this whole board is arrogant. All the Celtics fans think this is an easy matchup they win in 5. Reality is, I acknowledge this will be our toughest series. Will I be shocked if we lose? No. I think we'll win but the Celtics are no joke. The problem is the Celtics think we're a joke. The same way the wolves kept saying the real WCF was in the second round. The way OKC fans kept saying they matchup well.

There's so much lack of respect towards the Mavs man.

It'd be nice to have a civil discussion of both teams and how this series will develop, but I come into this thread and start reading and all I see is Celtics in 5, easy matchup, best matchup from the west etc etc.

I'd prefer talking about the matchups and how you guys think porzingis will play, what do you guys think you'll focus on offense and back and forth from there. I think the reality is neither teams fanbase knows the other team that well. I don't watch a ton of Celtics and Celtics fans don't watch a ton of Mavericks. That's how fans go. We both just watch our teams dominating and think we're invincible. But both teams are elite.

I think the Mavs fans acknowledge that of the Celtics though on the Mavs boards. The Celtics fans seem to think we're just breakfast.

On the Celtics Board ..

I think the mavs are just a bad matchup for the Celtics so I'd wager this goes Mavs in 6, but Mavs in 5 wouldn't surprise me. I'm hoping I'm wrong though I'd enjoy a longer series. Good luck though, I think the Celtics have a bright future.

Well find out soon enough. DJJ and PJ Washington Penetentiary have put every team in jail. Tatum and brown about to be arrested and released to Cancun.

Yeah, but only the Celtics are going to Mr. PJ Washington Penetentiary first.

Then you'll have seen that all the wolves fans voted for wolves in 5 or 6 too. Before that OKC said in 5 or 6. I read the same from the clippers fans. All of them are in Cancun now. Hope Tatum booked his hotel.

Yeah already said why. Because of how unseriously they took the Mavs the entire thread.

I think it will be Celtics in 5... not because I don't respect the Mavs but because of how stacked Boston is this season and because matchups are so huge in the NBA. We just saw it. The Wolves basically match up perfectly with Denver and they won, but terrible with the Mavs and lost. I think Denver would have beaten the Mavs as well and very likely could have beaten Boston.

The reason Celtics fans like the matchup with the Mavericks is because our strengths are built to slow down the exact way Dallas likes to play, and Dallas doesn't have a similar answer on the other end. Boston has basically the perfect roster to throw at Luka and Kyrie. While Dallas has a great defense, it's built to pack the paint and bait bad shots from outside the arc, which is effective against basically every team except the Celtics, who play a lineup of 5 shooters at basically all times.

The Mavs are my favorite western team so I'm not some Mavs hater or anything.

[UglyBugBall]

On the Celtics Board ..

Yeah already said why. Because of how unseriously they took the Mavs the entire thread.

I think it will be Celtics in 5... not because I don't respect the Mavs but because of how stacked Boston is this season and because matchups are so huge in the NBA. We just saw it. The Wolves basically match up perfectly with Denver and they won, but terrible with the Mavs and lost. I think Denver would have beaten the Mavs as well and very likely could have beaten Boston.

The reason Celtics fans like the matchup with the Mavericks is because our strengths are built to slow down the exact way Dallas likes to play, and Dallas doesn't have a similar answer on the other end. Boston has basically the perfect roster to throw at Luka and Kyrie. While Dallas has a great defense, it's built to pack the paint and bait bad shots from outside the arc, which is effective against basically every team except the Celtics, who play a lineup of 5 shooters at basically all times.

The Mavs are my favorite western team so I'm not some Mavs hater or anything.

The wolves said the same thing about the matchups. OKC did too.

Wolves said they matchup well because they are just too big for the Mavs. They'll overpower us and outrebound us.

OKC thought they matchup well because they have elite perimeter defense to shut down our stars with a shooting center.

Both those things got exposed.

We won't know how these teams matchup until we see the series, because everytime teams said they matchup well against the Mavs they've been blown off the court.

Celtics could end up matching up well. But I think it's premature to say that based on what we've seen in the WC so far this series.

[ajones9219]

Yeah already said why. Because of how unseriously they took the Mavs the entire thread.

I think it will be Celtics in 5... not because I don't respect the Mavs but because of how stacked Boston is this season and because matchups are so huge in the NBA. We just saw it. The Wolves basically match up perfectly with Denver and they won, but terrible with the Mavs and lost. I think Denver would have beaten the Mavs as well and very likely could have beaten Boston.

The reason Celtics fans like the matchup with the Mavericks is because our strengths are built to slow down the exact way Dallas likes to play, and Dallas doesn't have a similar answer on the other end. Boston has basically the perfect roster to throw at Luka and Kyrie. While Dallas has a great defense, it's built to pack the paint and bait bad shots from outside the arc, which is effective against basically every team except the Celtics, who play a lineup of 5 shooters at basically all times.

The Mavs are my favorite western team so I'm not some Mavs hater or anything.

The wolves said the same thing about the matchups. OKC did too.

Wolves said they matchup well because they are just too big for the Mavs. They'll overpower us and outrebound us.

OKC thought they matchup well because they have elite perimeter defense to shut down our stars with a shooting center.

Both those things got exposed.

We won't know how these teams matchup until we see the series, because everytime teams said they matchup well against the Mavs they've been blown off the court.

Celtics could end up matching up well. But I think it's premature to say that based on what we've seen in the WC so far this series.

Any fan that said either OKC or Minny matched up well with Dallas was delusional and I certainly didn't see these claims. Dallas is basically the worst matchup for Minny in the league and basically uses Gobert against them. Also OKC certainly wasn't blown off the court.

You can choose to believe or not believe, but we'll see it play out out here soon.

[AussieCeltic]

How did they do against the top 5 in the west? honest question...

Better record than the Mavs against the top 5 in the East which is saying something because I’ve been told the East is so much weaker than the West ..

.. you didn't answer the question.. Boston has shown that they are very consistent, regular and can destroy the inferior competition..5/5 against teams of +50 wins (12/5 the Mavs in these playoffs against teams of +50 victories)..I am not trying to discredit the Celtics, they are a super team, just to show that the level is more even than they claim, we have a final between the best possible teams

Celtics were 5-5 vs top 5 in the West in regular season
Mavs were 4-11 vs top 4 in the West in regular season

Celtics 2-0 vs Mavs in regular season
Mavs 0-2 vs Mavs in regular season

Celtics 34-15 vs teams over .500
Mavs 25-27 vs teams over .500

Celtics 12-2 in the playoffs
Mavs 12-5 in the playoffs

You were trying to discredit the Celtics when all the metrics fall in favour of the Celtics.

Thats not saying the Celtics are guaranteed to win but people here trying to diminish what the Celtics have done when they’ve done nothing but dominate the whole season is **** hilarious to me.

[Bob8]

Better record than the Mavs against the top 5 in the East which is saying something because I’ve been told the East is so much weaker than the West ..

.. you didn't answer the question.. Boston has shown that they are very consistent, regular and can destroy the inferior competition..5/5 against teams of +50 wins (12/5 the Mavs in these playoffs against teams of +50 victories)..I am not trying to discredit the Celtics, they are a super team, just to show that the level is more even than they claim, we have a final between the best possible teams

Celtics were 5-5 vs top 5 in the West in regular season
Mavs were 4-11 vs top 4 in the West in regular season

Celtics 2-0 vs Mavs in regular season
Mavs 0-2 vs Mavs in regular season

Celtics 34-15 vs teams over .500
Mavs 25-27 vs teams over .500

Celtics 12-2 in the playoffs
Mavs 12-5 in the playoffs

You were trying to discredit the Celtics when all the metrics fall in favour of the Celtics.

Thats not saying the Celtics are guaranteed to win but people here trying to diminish what the Celtics have done when they’ve done nothing but dominate the whole season is **** hilarious to me.

Looking at Mavs regular season is useless. Mavs have had bad luck with injuries in first 2/3 of the season. 32 different starting lineups, best starting lineup playing only 180 minutes together, Kyrie not playing for a month...And they had important trades in February. They transformed from bad defensive and disastrous rebounding team, to very good defensive and rebounding team. They have lost RS matchups against Clippers, Wolves and Thunder. That didn't help either much in playoffs.

[jpengland]

Better record than the Mavs against the top 5 in the East which is saying something because I’ve been told the East is so much weaker than the West ..

.. you didn't answer the question.. Boston has shown that they are very consistent, regular and can destroy the inferior competition..5/5 against teams of +50 wins (12/5 the Mavs in these playoffs against teams of +50 victories)..I am not trying to discredit the Celtics, they are a super team, just to show that the level is more even than they claim, we have a final between the best possible teams

Celtics were 5-5 vs top 5 in the West in regular season
Mavs were 4-11 vs top 4 in the West in regular season

Celtics 2-0 vs Mavs in regular season
Mavs 0-2 vs Mavs in regular season

Celtics 34-15 vs teams over .500
Mavs 25-27 vs teams over .500

Celtics 12-2 in the playoffs
Mavs 12-5 in the playoffs

You were trying to discredit the Celtics when all the metrics fall in favour of the Celtics.

Thats not saying the Celtics are guaranteed to win but people here trying to diminish what the Celtics have done when they’ve done nothing but dominate the whole season is **** hilarious to me.

Looking at the Mavs season as a whole is pretty pointless. They are an entirely different team in the playoffs.

But keep underestimating them, that's how they like it.

[zimpy27]

To be honest, I refuse to believe that the consensus unbiased opinion here is Dallas over Boston, IN 6 games, especially with the odds being what they are.

I don't buy it. People are voting against and rooting against Boston

Current poll is 204 to 194 in favour of Boston winning.

[Astaluego]

Better record than the Mavs against the top 5 in the East which is saying something because I’ve been told the East is so much weaker than the West ..

.. you didn't answer the question.. Boston has shown that they are very consistent, regular and can destroy the inferior competition..5/5 against teams of +50 wins (12/5 the Mavs in these playoffs against teams of +50 victories)..I am not trying to discredit the Celtics, they are a super team, just to show that the level is more even than they claim, we have a final between the best possible teams

Celtics were 5-5 vs top 5 in the West in regular season
Mavs were 4-11 vs top 4 in the West in regular season

Celtics 2-0 vs Mavs in regular season
Mavs 0-2 vs Mavs in regular season

Celtics 34-15 vs teams over .500
Mavs 25-27 vs teams over .500

Celtics 12-2 in the playoffs
Mavs 12-5 in the playoffs

You were trying to discredit the Celtics when all the metrics fall in favour of the Celtics.

Thats not saying the Celtics are guaranteed to win but people here trying to diminish what the Celtics have done when they’ve done nothing but dominate the whole season is **** hilarious to me.

discredit? you missed my point about Celtics super team, close level and we have the best possible final... you got it, I give up... good luck and enjoy the final

[Astaluego]

To be honest, I refuse to believe that the consensus unbiased opinion here is Dallas over Boston, IN 6 games, especially with the odds being what they are.

I don't buy it. People are voting against and rooting against Boston

Current poll is 204 to 194 in favour of Boston winning.

It doesn't matter, that's not enough for them, anything that isn't overwhelming superiority bothers them...
I'm starting to understand where the hatred they generate comes from...

I didn't understand it since they have some pretty nice players