Stephen Curry has been totally exposed

[Spintown]

“The only reason.”

Oh, the mental gymnastics one has to put themselves through to believe something like that.

So you think Warriors would have still won in 2015 if Kyrie and Love played?

You do realize cavs had Timofey Mozgov as their second leading scorer and Matthew Dellavedova was a Starter

We will never know. Just like we'll never know who would have won if GS had a healthy Bogut, Iggy, & Curry in 2016.

Curry and Iggy played. Please don't give me that excuse that they were 'hurt'. They were fine up until game 7 rolled around then all of sudden mysterious injuries popped up.

Bogut was a non factor in those finals and when he did play, they had him playing less than 12 mpg. Also many warrior fans were happy that he was out cause it meant more time with the "Death lineup"

[Kings4win]

“The only reason.”

Oh, the mental gymnastics one has to put themselves through to believe something like that.

So you think Warriors would have still won in 2015 if Kyrie and Love played?

You do realize cavs had Timofey Mozgov as their second leading scorer and Matthew Dellavedova was a Starter

We will never know. Just like we'll never know who would have won if GS had a healthy Bogut, Iggy, & Curry in 2016.

Haha this is why Curry fans get no respect, whenever he loses or under performs, he is of course injured

[art_tatum]

13 points. Trash game by curry against a good team with a good defensive strategy to get him to pass. Warriors are gonna lose to every good defensive team out there.

2 elite defenders met him every time he crossed halfcourt, Clippers sold out to stop him. Paschall, Bazemore and Wiggins kept us in it

Well he needs to get used to it. Also he wasn't doubled everytime. Should've forced the situation more. no way should he not get 10+ fts if that's how the clippers play him. Sometimes forcing it is the right play to surprise D vs passing all the time out of a double.

[rtiff68]

Speaking of full strength, you fail to acknowledge that the only reason warriors beat the cavs in 2015 was cause Kyrie and Love were injured.

“The only reason.”

Oh, the mental gymnastics one has to put themselves through to believe something like that.

So you think Warriors would have still won in 2015 if Kyrie and Love played?

You do realize cavs had Timofey Mozgov as their second leading scorer and Matthew Dellavedova was a Starter

What makes me think that the Warriors “could” have still won if Kyrie and Love had been healthy in 2015?

Please, based upon what transpired in 2015 and 2016, explain in detail how “Kyrie and Love being injured was the ONLY reason the Warriors beat the Cavs in 2015.”

I’ll wait.

If you try, and embarrass yourself, I will spank your bottom blue with my response.

Proceed.

WARNING
NO threats of spanking, please-- even if they're not literal.
-Sammy

[FNQ]

13 points. Trash game by curry against a good team with a good defensive strategy to get him to pass. Warriors are gonna lose to every good defensive team out there.

2 elite defenders met him every time he crossed halfcourt, Clippers sold out to stop him. Paschall, Bazemore and Wiggins kept us in it

Well he needs to get used to it. Also he wasn't doubled everytime. Should've forced the situation more. no way should he not get 10+ fts if that's how the clippers play him. Sometimes forcing it is the right play to surprise D vs passing all the time out of a double.

Repeating: every time Curry crossed halfcourt with the ball, Beverly and one of Kawhi/PG13 tried to trap him. Warriors moved him off ball because of it and they still did the same thing

The whole Beverly thread just goes to show how little people watch

[JRoy]

...totally exposed as the superstar and first ballot HOFer he is.

[Spintown]

“The only reason.”

Oh, the mental gymnastics one has to put themselves through to believe something like that.

So you think Warriors would have still won in 2015 if Kyrie and Love played?

You do realize cavs had Timofey Mozgov as their second leading scorer and Matthew Dellavedova was a Starter

What makes me think that the Warriors “could” have still won if Kyrie and Love had been healthy in 2015?

Please, based upon what transpired in 2015 and 2016, explain in detail how “Kyrie and Love being injured was the ONLY reason the Warriors beat the Cavs in 2015.”

I’ll wait.

If you try, and embarrass yourself, I will spank your bottom blue with my response.

Proceed.

Cavs won in 2016 with Kyrie and Love playing.

In 2015, Lebron stole 2 games by himself. He would've easily gotten 2 more with a healthy Kyrie and Love

[art_tatum]

So you think Warriors would have still won in 2015 if Kyrie and Love played?

You do realize cavs had Timofey Mozgov as their second leading scorer and Matthew Dellavedova was a Starter

What makes me think that the Warriors “could” have still won if Kyrie and Love had been healthy in 2015?

Please, based upon what transpired in 2015 and 2016, explain in detail how “Kyrie and Love being injured was the ONLY reason the Warriors beat the Cavs in 2015.”

I’ll wait.

If you try, and embarrass yourself, I will spank your bottom blue with my response.

Proceed.

Cavs won in 2016 with Kyrie and Love playing.

In 2015, Lebron stole 2 games by himself. He would've easily gotten 2 more with a healthy Kyrie and Love

cavs won in the last possession of game 7 without bogut playing and draymond missing a game. Would've easily gotten 2 extra buckets with a healthy bogut butt setting picks, or ended in 5 riding the momentum with green.

I can be spintown too

[Spintown]

What makes me think that the Warriors “could” have still won if Kyrie and Love had been healthy in 2015?

Please, based upon what transpired in 2015 and 2016, explain in detail how “Kyrie and Love being injured was the ONLY reason the Warriors beat the Cavs in 2015.”

I’ll wait.

If you try, and embarrass yourself, I will spank your bottom blue with my response.

Proceed.

Cavs won in 2016 with Kyrie and Love playing.

In 2015, Lebron stole 2 games by himself. He would've easily gotten 2 more with a healthy Kyrie and Love

cavs won in the last possession of game 7 without bogut playing and draymond missing a game. Would've easily gotten 2 extra buckets with a healthy bogut butt setting picks, or ended in 5 riding the momentum with green.

I can be spintown too

Thats if Bogut was able to get off the pine. When he did play he averaged like 12 minutes per game and was on the bench when it mattered most.

[rtiff68]

So you think Warriors would have still won in 2015 if Kyrie and Love played?

You do realize cavs had Timofey Mozgov as their second leading scorer and Matthew Dellavedova was a Starter

What makes me think that the Warriors “could” have still won if Kyrie and Love had been healthy in 2015?

Please, based upon what transpired in 2015 and 2016, explain in detail how “Kyrie and Love being injured was the ONLY reason the Warriors beat the Cavs in 2015.”

I’ll wait.

If you try, and embarrass yourself, I will spank your bottom blue with my response.

Proceed.

Cavs won in 2016 with Kyrie and Love playing.

In 2015, Lebron stole 2 games by himself. He would've easily gotten 2 more with a healthy Kyrie and Love

That’s it?

Seriously?

[Ugalde]

What makes me think that the Warriors “could” have still won if Kyrie and Love had been healthy in 2015?

Please, based upon what transpired in 2015 and 2016, explain in detail how “Kyrie and Love being injured was the ONLY reason the Warriors beat the Cavs in 2015.”

I’ll wait.

If you try, and embarrass yourself, I will spank your bottom blue with my response.

Proceed.

Cavs won in 2016 with Kyrie and Love playing.

In 2015, Lebron stole 2 games by himself. He would've easily gotten 2 more with a healthy Kyrie and Love

That’s it?

Seriously?

i mean it’s a fact and i hate lebron. if lebrons 2nd and 3rd best player weren’t injured he’d obviously have a much better chance of winning.

[rtiff68]

Cavs won in 2016 with Kyrie and Love playing.

In 2015, Lebron stole 2 games by himself. He would've easily gotten 2 more with a healthy Kyrie and Love

That’s it?

Seriously?

i mean it’s a fact and i hate lebron. if lebrons 2nd and 3rd best player weren’t injured he’d obviously have a much better chance of winning.

Here are the facts:

-Spintown said that “the ONLY” reason the Warriors won in 2015 was because Kyrie and Love were injured.

-The 2015 series wasn’t especially close. The Cavs were beaten decisively 3 times in a row (2 of those times in CLE) to lose the series in 6 games.

-The fully healthy Cavs won on an incredible last second shot in the 7th game of a tightly contested series against a slightly knicked up Warriors team.

LeBron and Kyrie had the best playoff series’ of their lives, while Steph had his worst. Draymond was suspended for a game. Harrison Barnes went 5-31 on wide open shots through Games 5-7.

All of those things happened, and still CLE won by the absolute SLIMMEST of margins. To look at that evidence, and to conclude that a healthy GS team back then would have ZERO chance of defeating a healthy Cavs team back then is one of the most mind numbingly stupid things I’ve ever read on the internet. If those teams (both healthy) play a 7 game series 100 times, how many do you think CLE wins?

[Warriors Analyst]

That’s it?

Seriously?

i mean it’s a fact and i hate lebron. if lebrons 2nd and 3rd best player weren’t injured he’d obviously have a much better chance of winning.

Here are the facts:

-Spintown said that “the ONLY” reason the Warriors won in 2015 was because Kyrie and Love were injured.

-The 2015 series wasn’t especially close. The Cavs were beaten decisively 3 teams in a row (2 of those times in CLE) to lose the series in 6 games.

-The fully healthy Cavs won on an incredible last second shot in 7th game of a tightly contested series against a slightly knicked up Warriors team.

LeBron and Kyrie had the best playoff series’ of their lives, while Steph had his worst. Draymond was suspended for a game. Harrison Barnes went 5-31 on wide open shots through Games 5-7.

All of those things happened, and still CLE won by the absolute SLIMMEST of margins. To look at that evidence, and to conclude that a healthy GS team back then would have ZERO chance of defeating a healthy Cavs team back then is one of the most kind numbingly stupid things I’ve ever read on the internet. If those teams (both healthy) play a 7 game series 100 times, how many do you think CLE wins?

I'll repeat this till I'm blue in the face: the Cavs missed Kevin Love in game 3 of the 2016 Finals and... they blew the Warriors out.

Love doesn't move the needle for the Cavs against the Warriors. If anything he's a liability. The best strategy for the Cavs against the Warriors was to slow it down, crash the offensive boards, limit turnovers, and trap Steph PNR and take the ball out of his hands. The most effective way to reduce turnovers and limit the Warriors' ability to create in transition off of turnovers is to put the ball in LeBron or Kyrie's hands and go ISO. They did that in 2015 pretty successfully, but they didn't have the depth or talent to win that series and once the Warriors went small, the series ended pretty quickly.

The 2016 Cavs were deeper than the 2015 Cavs and having Richard Jefferson made it a lot easier for the Cavs to go small, trap effectively, and space the floor against the Warriors. If you're playing Kevin Love 30+ minutes against the full-strength small ball Warriors, he's going to be a liability defensively. The only way to justify his minutes is to make him a significant part of the Cavs' offense, but that also requires more ball movement and puts the Cavs at risk of turning the ball over.

The Cavs ISO offense was a brilliant strategic move by Blatt and later, Lue. If you're ISO'ing significant amount of possessions with Lebron or Kyrie, particularly with a spread floor (which the Cavs didn't have the personnel to pull off in 2015) you're taking Draymond out of the play because he plays free safety on D.

Kyrie helps the Cavs in the 2015 Finals. I don't buy that Love does. But a healthy Kyrie still presents issues on the defensive end. He's not great defensively and I don't buy that he's going to be all that great at executing a trap scheme against the healthy Warriors.

[SAKURABA216]

I'm noticing a trend here with Curry's performances against decent defensive teams and horrible defensive teams. Bulls, Pistons and Kings are all in the bottom 5 of defensive rating, Curry had good/great scoring games against them.

Curry plays atrociously against Nets/Clippers/Bucks averaging .420% TS in those games and all have been losses.

Curry is one of my favourite players so I'm hoping he gets back to form and plays well against good defensive teams not just bad ones.

Curry needs Draymond and for his teammates to make their open shots in order to play his best. Draymond is another playmaker that can allow Curry to play off-ball and find other players as they cut to the basket. Also, if his teammates are hitting their shots then the opposing team won't risk double and triple-teaming Curry. This new squad is still learning what their roles are and how to play with each other. Against the Kings they were able to hit their shots, but the Clippers knew it wasn't going to last so they threw their defense at Curry and dared his teammates try and win the game. Wiggins and Paschall had great games so it was a lot closer than expected, but the Clippers are just an elite team.

[HabsAndDubs]

So you think Warriors would have still won in 2015 if Kyrie and Love played?

You do realize cavs had Timofey Mozgov as their second leading scorer and Matthew Dellavedova was a Starter

We will never know. Just like we'll never know who would have won if GS had a healthy Bogut, Iggy, & Curry in 2016.

Haha this is why Curry fans get no respect, whenever he loses or under performs, he is of course injured

Yeah it’s almost like he’s an all time great and when he underperforms there’s a reason for it


This whole if Cleveland had Kyrie and love thing is so stupid. If Lebron doesn’t make the greatest defensive play of all time, and if KD and Klay didn’t go down in 2019, GS would’ve easily won 5 straight. People need to respect the greatness

[SAKURABA216]

i mean it’s a fact and i hate lebron. if lebrons 2nd and 3rd best player weren’t injured he’d obviously have a much better chance of winning.

Here are the facts:

-Spintown said that “the ONLY” reason the Warriors won in 2015 was because Kyrie and Love were injured.

-The 2015 series wasn’t especially close. The Cavs were beaten decisively 3 teams in a row (2 of those times in CLE) to lose the series in 6 games.

-The fully healthy Cavs won on an incredible last second shot in 7th game of a tightly contested series against a slightly knicked up Warriors team.

LeBron and Kyrie had the best playoff series’ of their lives, while Steph had his worst. Draymond was suspended for a game. Harrison Barnes went 5-31 on wide open shots through Games 5-7.

All of those things happened, and still CLE won by the absolute SLIMMEST of margins. To look at that evidence, and to conclude that a healthy GS team back then would have ZERO chance of defeating a healthy Cavs team back then is one of the most kind numbingly stupid things I’ve ever read on the internet. If those teams (both healthy) play a 7 game series 100 times, how many do you think CLE wins?

I'll repeat this till I'm blue in the face: the Cavs missed Kevin Love in game 3 of the 2016 Finals and... they blew the Warriors out.

Love doesn't move the needle for the Cavs against the Warriors. If anything he's a liability. The best strategy for the Cavs against the Warriors was to slow it down, crash the offensive boards, limit turnovers, and trap Steph PNR and take the ball out of his hands. The most effective way to reduce turnovers and limit the Warriors' ability to create in transition off of turnovers is to put the ball in LeBron or Kyrie's hands and go ISO. They did that in 2015 pretty successfully, but they didn't have the depth or talent to win that series and once the Warriors went small, the series ended pretty quickly.

The 2016 Cavs were deeper than the 2015 Cavs and having Richard Jefferson made it a lot easier for the Cavs to go small, trap effectively, and space the floor against the Warriors. If you're playing Kevin Love 30+ minutes against the full-strength small ball Warriors, he's going to be a liability defensively. The only way to justify his minutes is to make him a significant part of the Cavs' offense, but that also requires more ball movement and puts the Cavs at risk of turning the ball over.

The Cavs ISO offense was a brilliant strategic move by Blatt and later, Lue. If you're ISO'ing significant amount of possessions with Lebron or Kyrie, particularly with a spread floor (which the Cavs didn't have the personnel to pull off in 2015) you're taking Draymond out of the play because he plays free safety on D.

Kyrie helps the Cavs in the 2015 Finals. I don't buy that Love does. But a healthy Kyrie still presents issues on the defensive end. He's not great defensively and I don't buy that he's going to be all that great at executing a trap scheme against the healthy Warriors.

I'm not a Qanon guy or a flat-earther and I sincerely believe that Covid is as deadly as they say and must be taken seriously...

That said, I still think that the Warriors blew the series to the Cavs in 2016 so that KD would join them during the off-season. Had they won, there is no chance in hell we would've signed with them. The Warriors front office probably also thought that they could keep KD here for the rest of his career and that they would have a dynasty for the next 6 years like the Bulls. Ultimately, they didn't count on chemistry and personal issues tearing the team apart, but in the end they traded 1 ring for 2 and got a new stadium out of it.

[Lunartic]

I'm noticing a trend here with Curry's performances against decent defensive teams and horrible defensive teams. Bulls, Pistons and Kings are all in the bottom 5 of defensive rating, Curry had good/great scoring games against them.

Curry plays atrociously against Nets/Clippers/Bucks averaging .420% TS in those games and all have been losses.

Curry is one of my favourite players so I'm hoping he gets back to form and plays well against good defensive teams not just bad ones.

Curry needs Draymond and for his teammates to make their open shots in order to play his best. Draymond is another playmaker that can allow Curry to play off-ball and find other players as they cut to the basket. Also, if his teammates are hitting their shots then the opposing team won't risk double and triple-teaming Curry. This new squad is still learning what their roles are and how to play with each other. Against the Kings they were able to hit their shots, but the Clippers knew it wasn't going to last so they threw their defense at Curry and dared his teammates try and win the game. Wiggins and Paschall had great games so it was a lot closer than expected, but the Clippers are just an elite team.

It might be the first time I've ever seen a player considered a top-10 all time, best PG of all time, great offensive player of all time play so poorly simply because the opponents defense was above average and his teammates aren't great shooters

[a8bil]

Yeah this is exactly what happens when he comes up v decent defensive teams. The Blazers and Kings sure he will get his, but look at this game v the Clippers, couldn't even make plays for others either but some say he's a great passer?

Lol but hey his fans will continue to give him a pass during the bad games and talk him up when he torches the weak defensive teams I suppose.

LOL...do you even watch games? No passer gets an assist if the recipient doesn't make a shot...have you missed the discussion about how many wide-pen shots guys like Oubre missed. It's okay to think Curry is not the greatest in the league, but not when you base it on ignorance.

[a8bil]

That’s it?

Seriously?

i mean it’s a fact and i hate lebron. if lebrons 2nd and 3rd best player weren’t injured he’d obviously have a much better chance of winning.

Here are the facts:

-Spintown said that “the ONLY” reason the Warriors won in 2015 was because Kyrie and Love were injured.

-The 2015 series wasn’t especially close. The Cavs were beaten decisively 3 times in a row (2 of those times in CLE) to lose the series in 6 games.

-The fully healthy Cavs won on an incredible last second shot in the 7th game of a tightly contested series against a slightly knicked up Warriors team.

LeBron and Kyrie had the best playoff series’ of their lives, while Steph had his worst. Draymond was suspended for a game. Harrison Barnes went 5-31 on wide open shots through Games 5-7.

All of those things happened, and still CLE won by the absolute SLIMMEST of margins. To look at that evidence, and to conclude that a healthy GS team back then would have ZERO chance of defeating a healthy Cavs team back then is one of the most mind numbingly stupid things I’ve ever read on the internet. If those teams (both healthy) play a 7 game series 100 times, how many do you think CLE wins?

School's in session.

[nfmos]

So you think Warriors would have still won in 2015 if Kyrie and Love played?

You do realize cavs had Timofey Mozgov as their second leading scorer and Matthew Dellavedova was a Starter

We will never know. Just like we'll never know who would have won if GS had a healthy Bogut, Iggy, & Curry in 2016.

Haha this is why Curry fans get no respect, whenever he loses or under performs, he is of course injured

Oh i see, we arent allowed to used hypotheticals or cite injuries but the haters can. The only thing that matters is real life, and in real life we won 3 titles, with 5 finals in 5 years, with Steph getting 2 MVPs while the Warriors still continue to live in your head rent free. This team and Steph really have nothing to prove to people like you. You should really direct this anger toward your teams owner, but i guess its easier to do this.