erekose200 wrote:Another tortuously difficult game for the heat as they face their biggest challenge yet from the 45-win nets and barely escape with the victory. What an achievement, this heat team will surely go down in history.
Barely?
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erekose200 wrote:Another tortuously difficult game for the heat as they face their biggest challenge yet from the 45-win nets and barely escape with the victory. What an achievement, this heat team will surely go down in history.
mopper8 wrote:PRESTIGE wrote:It's only been one game, no need to draw any conclusions. Even if the Heat take game 2, that's to be expected. It's game 3 where the series will likely be decided. Nets have to protect home court.
While that's certainly true, a lot of what's going on here relates to the two vastly different viewpoints of this series heading into it.
View 1 said, essentially, "Miami had a better record than New Jersey on the season by a significant margin. Miami had a much better SRS (adjusted margin of victory) than NJ, too. The Heat swept the first round, looking great doing it, and teams historically benefit greatly from that. NJ looked mediocre going 7 with the Raptors. Logical conclusion: Miami is the heavy favorite, should be an easy series for them. Yeah, NJ beat them head-to-head this year, but the scores at the end of regulation in those games was +1, +1, tie, +1. And that was with the Heat in regular season coast mode; everyone knows they turn it up in the postseason."
View 2 said, essentially, "Look at the head-to-heads here. New Jersey was 4-0. 4-0! No team in NBA history has ever gone 0-4 against another team in the regular season and then turned around and beat that team in the postseason. None. Were they close? Sure. But NJ has been playing their best ball to close the season, so the team record is a bit deceiving, it doesn't reflect how well they've been playing. And that fact is, New Jersey gives Miami real matchup problems. They don't care if Miami goes small because they have Pierce at the 4. They have big guards that can exploit Chalmers/Cole/Allen in the post. Miami's biggest strength on D is that they destroy pick-n-rolls, but NJ is one of the teams least reliant on pick-n-roll for offense in the league. Miami likes to get out in transition and NJ prevents that. And while Miami got to coast in the first round against a 7 seed who's best player was playing injured, NJ had to go on the road and beat the young, athletic, balanced 3-seed. This is going to be a close series (Pierce & Kg vs the Heat practically guarantees it!), and NJ might even be able to take it."
There's actually not a ton of middle ground between these views, either. So a lot of people saw game as vindication for the first viewpoint. It might still end up that View 2 is closer to reality, hard to tell, but it's always nice to see a little confirmation for how you were arguing this series will go.

Netsultimatefan63 wrote:mopper8 wrote:PRESTIGE wrote:It's only been one game, no need to draw any conclusions. Even if the Heat take game 2, that's to be expected. It's game 3 where the series will likely be decided. Nets have to protect home court.
While that's certainly true, a lot of what's going on here relates to the two vastly different viewpoints of this series heading into it.
View 1 said, essentially, "Miami had a better record than New Jersey on the season by a significant margin. Miami had a much better SRS (adjusted margin of victory) than NJ, too. The Heat swept the first round, looking great doing it, and teams historically benefit greatly from that. NJ looked mediocre going 7 with the Raptors. Logical conclusion: Miami is the heavy favorite, should be an easy series for them. Yeah, NJ beat them head-to-head this year, but the scores at the end of regulation in those games was +1, +1, tie, +1. And that was with the Heat in regular season coast mode; everyone knows they turn it up in the postseason."
View 2 said, essentially, "Look at the head-to-heads here. New Jersey was 4-0. 4-0! No team in NBA history has ever gone 0-4 against another team in the regular season and then turned around and beat that team in the postseason. None. Were they close? Sure. But NJ has been playing their best ball to close the season, so the team record is a bit deceiving, it doesn't reflect how well they've been playing. And that fact is, New Jersey gives Miami real matchup problems. They don't care if Miami goes small because they have Pierce at the 4. They have big guards that can exploit Chalmers/Cole/Allen in the post. Miami's biggest strength on D is that they destroy pick-n-rolls, but NJ is one of the teams least reliant on pick-n-roll for offense in the league. Miami likes to get out in transition and NJ prevents that. And while Miami got to coast in the first round against a 7 seed who's best player was playing injured, NJ had to go on the road and beat the young, athletic, balanced 3-seed. This is going to be a close series (Pierce & Kg vs the Heat practically guarantees it!), and NJ might even be able to take it."
There's actually not a ton of middle ground between these views, either. So a lot of people saw game as vindication for the first viewpoint. It might still end up that View 2 is closer to reality, hard to tell, but it's always nice to see a little confirmation for how you were arguing this series will go.
Good post but did you purposely refer to the Nets as "NJ" or....? I mean it's not like the word "Brooklyn" isn't on every piece of the Nets' merchandise.
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mopper8 wrote:Netsultimatefan63 wrote:mopper8 wrote:
While that's certainly true, a lot of what's going on here relates to the two vastly different viewpoints of this series heading into it.
View 1 said, essentially, "Miami had a better record than New Jersey on the season by a significant margin. Miami had a much better SRS (adjusted margin of victory) than NJ, too. The Heat swept the first round, looking great doing it, and teams historically benefit greatly from that. NJ looked mediocre going 7 with the Raptors. Logical conclusion: Miami is the heavy favorite, should be an easy series for them. Yeah, NJ beat them head-to-head this year, but the scores at the end of regulation in those games was +1, +1, tie, +1. And that was with the Heat in regular season coast mode; everyone knows they turn it up in the postseason."
View 2 said, essentially, "Look at the head-to-heads here. New Jersey was 4-0. 4-0! No team in NBA history has ever gone 0-4 against another team in the regular season and then turned around and beat that team in the postseason. None. Were they close? Sure. But NJ has been playing their best ball to close the season, so the team record is a bit deceiving, it doesn't reflect how well they've been playing. And that fact is, New Jersey gives Miami real matchup problems. They don't care if Miami goes small because they have Pierce at the 4. They have big guards that can exploit Chalmers/Cole/Allen in the post. Miami's biggest strength on D is that they destroy pick-n-rolls, but NJ is one of the teams least reliant on pick-n-roll for offense in the league. Miami likes to get out in transition and NJ prevents that. And while Miami got to coast in the first round against a 7 seed who's best player was playing injured, NJ had to go on the road and beat the young, athletic, balanced 3-seed. This is going to be a close series (Pierce & Kg vs the Heat practically guarantees it!), and NJ might even be able to take it."
There's actually not a ton of middle ground between these views, either. So a lot of people saw game as vindication for the first viewpoint. It might still end up that View 2 is closer to reality, hard to tell, but it's always nice to see a little confirmation for how you were arguing this series will go.
Good post but did you purposely refer to the Nets as "NJ" or....? I mean it's not like the word "Brooklyn" isn't on every piece of the Nets' merchandise.
lol no that's a "i haven't had any coffee yet this morning" oversight, my bad, will fix now
Joao Saraiva wrote:Nets have a old core and some players that get injured a lot. After an intense 7 game series, Brooklyn did not show up. They were tired, that's normal.
I expect a much closer game in game 2.
D-Will has to show up with a good game and the Nets need to win the rebound battle. If these two things happen they have a chance of taking it 1-1 back to Brooklyn.
Still hoping LeBron and the Heat get the next game!
Eaglenugget wrote:We got Bosh!!!' Not Discounted!! Lmfao
PRESTIGE wrote:It's only been one game, no need to draw any conclusions. Even if the Heat take game 2, that's to be expected. It's game 3 where the series will likely be decided. Nets have to protect home court.

Eaglenugget wrote:We got Bosh!!!' Not Discounted!! Lmfao
erekose200 wrote:Another tortuously difficult game for the heat as they face their biggest challenge yet from the 45-win nets and barely escape with the victory. What an achievement, this heat team will surely go down in history.
your'e the one harping on this win. Nobody said anything about this win being an "achievement". If anything, more people were bragging about the 45-win Nets team going 4-0 against the Heat in the regular season
JAY DASH wrote: It's sad seeing KG and Pierce like this....gotta know when to hang up the laces man.

JAY DASH wrote:Heat really looked like they were going a little more than half speed last night and won comfortably. Their execution in the halfcourt was a thing of beauty. It's sad seeing KG and Pierce like this....gotta know when to hang up the laces man.
I do expect one throwback night from Paul before this series is over, but even in that game I'm not sure the Nets win. D-Will just doesn't seem to realize he can put up 40 on Chalmers and I don't understand why.
JAY DASH wrote:Not wishful thinking, he just doesn't assert himself. Every time D-Will tried to be aggressive he had whoever was guarding him on skates. I'm not even a D-Will fan but there's no way in the world Chalmers can guard him if he stops being so passive. It's almost like he doesn't understand how talented he is.
JAY DASH wrote:Not wishful thinking, he just doesn't assert himself. Every time D-Will tried to be aggressive he had whoever was guarding him on skates. I'm not even a D-Will fan but there's no way in the world Chalmers can guard him if he stops being so passive. It's almost like he doesn't understand how talented he is.
Eaglenugget wrote:We got Bosh!!!' Not Discounted!! Lmfao

JAY DASH wrote:Not wishful thinking, he just doesn't assert himself. Every time D-Will tried to be aggressive he had whoever was guarding him on skates. I'm not even a D-Will fan but there's no way in the world Chalmers can guard him if he stops being so passive. It's almost like he doesn't understand how talented he is.