2021-22 NBA Rookie Thread (part 3)

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Which three rookies impress you the most? (vote for up to 3)

Cade Cunningham
67
12%
Jalen Green
4
1%
Evan Mobley
163
29%
Scottie Barnes
152
27%
Jalen Suggs
8
1%
Josh Giddey
53
10%
Franz Wagner
68
12%
Chris Duarte
10
2%
Alperen Sengun
21
4%
Other
11
2%
 
Total votes: 557

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Post#961 » by tdotrep2 » Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:29 am

Tor_Raps wrote:Just imagine if OKC were able to get the 3rd and 4th if the lottery went their way?

Mobley and Barnes on the same team with SGA would have been their KD/Harden/Westbrook reincarnated.

okc should feel good about giddy tho, kids a stud man
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Post#962 » by XTC » Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:40 am

Mannnn... if scottie was on a team like the Cavs, OKC, or Detroit... IMO he would be averaging 20/8/6...

Kid is going to be a player for the MVP in the future!
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Post#963 » by bkseven » Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:13 am

Is nobody gonna point out that Scottie was the only player with a negative plus/minus score out of all the starters ?
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Post#964 » by God Squad » Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:40 am

bkseven wrote:Is nobody gonna point out that Scottie was the only player with a negative plus/minus score out of all the starters ?

It's almost like Rookies are negative players most of the time. Who would have thunk it. Kid was a monster today with is step backs and ISOs.
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Post#965 » by tdotrep2 » Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:55 am

bkseven wrote:Is nobody gonna point out that Scottie was the only player with a negative plus/minus score out of all the starters ?

he got in foul trouble in the first q and played the entire seocn dwith the bench who got **** on. our bnench is dogshitr. thats why
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Post#966 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:12 am

bkseven wrote:Is nobody gonna point out that Scottie was the only player with a negative plus/minus score out of all the starters ?

He plays with the second unit, where every night, usually gets demolished. He gets subbed off first usually and then comes back with a variety of second unit guys.


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Post#967 » by reanimator » Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:02 pm

Vampirate wrote:This draft class is looking super deep thus far.

You have some players who are really showing flashes of what they can do in.

Mobley, Barnes, Sengun, Franz, Giddey

Then of course you have players who are struggling but have real potential in Cade, Green, Suggs



How is Cade struggling but Giddey isnt?
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Post#968 » by Yallbecrazy » Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:06 pm

bkseven wrote:Is nobody gonna point out that Scottie was the only player with a negative plus/minus score out of all the starters ?


He was playing with the bench unit when Brooklyn went on a big run at the start of the 4th
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Post#969 » by Jadoogar » Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:51 pm

bkseven wrote:Is nobody gonna point out that Scottie was the only player with a negative plus/minus score out of all the starters ?


We've been running a lot of Scottie+bench lineups recently. Look at the bench's plus minus
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Post#970 » by nikster » Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:58 pm

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Yallbecrazy wrote:
bkseven wrote:Is nobody gonna point out that Scottie was the only player with a negative plus/minus score out of all the starters ?


He was playing with the bench unit when Brooklyn went on a big run at the start of the 4th

Yeah bench was complete trash and Scottie played the most with them. only starter on the floor for a 5 minute stretch from the end of the 1st to start of 2nd where they went - 10.

No other starter played with only bench players
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Post#971 » by reanimator » Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:11 pm

XTC wrote:Mannnn... if scottie was on a team like the Cavs, OKC, or Detroit... IMO he would be averaging 20/8/6...


Don't get me wrong, Barnes is the second best rookie and it isn't even close but what is this based on?

Sure he creates a lot for himself, but he isn't a first or second option on the Raptors so he isn't being keyed on.

I've seen people bring up Garland and Allen in regards to Mobley's play which I'm not quite convinced on but having Nick Nurse and Siakam/FVV/OG/Trent is a stabilizing core Giddey/Cade don't have the luxury....just food for thought.
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Post#972 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:24 pm

This draft class man. Its like the new era arrived overnight.

Cade, Mobley, Barnes, Giddey, Sengun are all guys that can be top 3 on a deep playoff team IMO. Then you have Duarte and Wagner looking like absolutely elite 4th option types moving forward (With Wagner potentially a top-3 guy IMO), then you have the wildcard Green with clear top-3 potential but alot of variables. Then Suggs who is already a good defender and just needs to find his shot to enter this discussion.

Its just an amazing talent pool.
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Post#973 » by Rebel INS » Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:34 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:This draft class man. Its like the new era arrived overnight.

Cade, Mobley, Barnes, Giddey, Sengun are all guys that can be top 3 on a deep playoff team IMO. Then you have Duarte and Wagner looking like absolutely elite 4th option types moving forward (With Wagner potentially a top-3 guy IMO), then you have the wildcard Green with clear top-3 potential but alot of variables. Then Suggs who is already a good defender and just needs to find his shot to enter this discussion.

Its just an amazing talent pool.


The comparisons to 2003 or 2009 are starting to seem less hyperbolic. Its gonna be a long while before you can start projecting any of these guys for the hall of fame, but it definitely has the feel of 'welcome to the 20's era of the NBA'

It feels like 5+ teams are gonna come out of this draft with cornerstone guys for the next 5 years (if not outright faces of the franchise)
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Post#974 » by lobosloboslobos » Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:58 pm

Yeah, there are at least a few teams - Pistons, Raptors, Cavs, maybe OKC and Orlando too, whose top pick is already the best player - not just on their team but often in any given game. That is quite something 25 games into their first season. And there are a bunch of other guys making big contributions already too. amazing.
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Post#975 » by Liqourish » Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:12 pm

Vampirate wrote:This draft class is looking super deep thus far.

You have some players who are really showing flashes of what they can do in.

Mobley, Barnes, Sengun, Franz, Giddey

Then of course you have players who are struggling but have real potential in Cade, Green, Suggs


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Post#976 » by lobosloboslobos » Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:20 pm

I don't mean to spam this thread with Scottie content but personally I like it when people post highlight vids because i don't get to watch a lot of these young guys much. Given that, this is pretty entertaining...matched up against KD at both ends most of the night Scottie really shone and came within a whisker of winning the game on a 50 foot shot...

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Post#977 » by QingJames » Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:24 pm

Mobley, Barnes, Cade and Wagner. These are the 4 guys who all have a legitimate shot at ROY. Mobley and Barnes are 1 and 1b right now, but Cade and Wagner are very close behind them. I can see any of them walking away with it at the end of the year as they all are showing signs of greatness in different facets of the game. Honourable mention to Sengun, who would have a shot if not for being relegated to poor minutes.

At this stage, it's hard to see how anyone outside those top 4 has a legitimate case. Sorry to Giddey, who shows some good stuff but is just not consistent enough and far too inefficient to be considered on the same level as the rest of those guys. I suppose somebody else could go on an absolute tear in the second half of the season, but even then I think what the aforementioned 4 have done to date will be very hard for anyone else to overcome.
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Post#978 » by Wargreymon » Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:28 pm

bkseven wrote:Is nobody gonna point out that Scottie was the only player with a negative plus/minus score out of all the starters ?

Guys I found Evan Mobley’s burner account
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Post#979 » by bkseven » Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:56 pm

Wargreymon wrote:
bkseven wrote:Is nobody gonna point out that Scottie was the only player with a negative plus/minus score out of all the starters ?

Guys I found Evan Mobley’s burner account


Lol I've made one post about Scottie Barnes and zero about Evan Mobley.. Alright..
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Post#980 » by LoveMyRaps » Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:10 pm

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