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Re: Sixers and Celtics in serious talks about potential trade involving #1 pick 

Post#981 » by London2Boston » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:30 pm

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E-Balla wrote:Are all other 29 GMs in on some sort of scheme to give Danny Ainge a dynasty? How the hell did this just happen?


Dynasty? Don't see it.

It's Jackson/Tatum this year which is meh and then either one stud next year or the year after. I like Jaylen Brown a lot, but he would have to turn into Mini Lebron for this to become a dynasty. It's Philly that has that potential now.


You're forgetting we still have the BRK '18. :wink:


I genuinely did for a second. Too many picks to keep track of :lol:. Hmm.. let's hope for some crazy lotto luck again next year. Although spreading our seed and having Brooklyn suck next year and the Lakers pick turn to Sac 2019 may be better too.
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Post#982 » by TheMartian » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:32 pm

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Dynasty? Don't see it.

It's Jackson/Tatum this year which is meh and then either one stud next year or the year after. I like Jaylen Brown a lot, but he would have to turn into Mini Lebron for this to become a dynasty. It's Philly that has that potential now.


You're forgetting we still have the BRK '18. :wink:


I genuinely did for a second. Too many picks to keep track of :lol:. Hmm.. let's hope for some crazy lotto luck again next year. Although spreading our seed and having Brooklyn suck next year and the Lakers pick turn to Sac 2019 may be better too.


Yup. Future is still bright for the Celtics. :D
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Re: Sixers and Celtics in serious talks about potential trade involving #1 pick 

Post#983 » by Sixersftw » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:35 pm

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This is great for Philly as well. They've tanked long enough. Great looking core now though Embiid's health makes signing a capable backup center still in his prime years a big priority.


Holmes is extremely capable and has solid potential moving forward.

Fultz is about as good of a fit as we could have hoped to pair with Embiid and Simmons. I think it could still work out for the Celtics too, just depends on what Ainge does w/ the pick.
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Re: Sixers and Celtics in serious talks about potential trade involving #1 pick 

Post#984 » by Cornbread » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:36 pm

Not out of the question the Celtics get top 3 picks in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2021 all while being a good team that wins playoff series' (and potentially more if injuries and luck hit at the right time).
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Post#985 » by Sixersftw » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:38 pm

r0drig0lac wrote:Simmons/Fultz/RoCo/Saric/Joel
this will be good


Saric is probably our 6th man. He'll quarterback the 2nd unit with T.J., the GOAT of all GOATs, McConnell. I'm guessing we try to pick up KCP or let Luwawu-Cabarrot and Sauce platoon the SG position.
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Re: Sixers and Celtics in serious talks about potential trade involving #1 pick 

Post#986 » by desi tmac91 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:56 pm

Sixersftw wrote:
desi tmac91 wrote:

This is great for Philly as well. They've tanked long enough. Great looking core now though Embiid's health makes signing a capable backup center still in his prime years a big priority.


Holmes is extremely capable and has solid potential moving forward.

Fultz is about as good of a fit as we could have hoped to pair with Embiid and Simmons. I think it could still work out for the Celtics too, just depends on what Ainge does w/ the pick.


Really curious what you guys do with your cap space now. Grab some vets or save up for 2018 when some big time free agents may start looking their way? Not crazy to consider when Cleveland got LeBron in a similar fashion again.
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Post#987 » by joyeuxnoel » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:57 pm

Cornbread wrote:Not out of the question the Celtics get top 3 picks in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2021 all while being a good team that wins playoff series' (and potentially more if injuries and luck hit at the right time).


i get everything but why 2021?
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Post#988 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:58 pm

desi tmac91 wrote:
Sixersftw wrote:
desi tmac91 wrote:

This is great for Philly as well. They've tanked long enough. Great looking core now though Embiid's health makes signing a capable backup center still in his prime years a big priority.


Holmes is extremely capable and has solid potential moving forward.

Fultz is about as good of a fit as we could have hoped to pair with Embiid and Simmons. I think it could still work out for the Celtics too, just depends on what Ainge does w/ the pick.


Really curious what you guys do with your cap space now. Grab some vets or save up for 2018 when some big time free agents may start looking their way? Not crazy to consider when Cleveland got LeBron in a similar fashion again.


Yeah, I'm wondering what the Sixers do with the cap space they have
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Post#989 » by joyeuxnoel » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:00 pm

very slim chance at getting hayward so probably stay put this year
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Post#990 » by Sixersftw » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:06 pm

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Holmes is extremely capable and has solid potential moving forward.

Fultz is about as good of a fit as we could have hoped to pair with Embiid and Simmons. I think it could still work out for the Celtics too, just depends on what Ainge does w/ the pick.


Really curious what you guys do with your cap space now. Grab some vets or save up for 2018 when some big time free agents may start looking their way? Not crazy to consider when Cleveland got LeBron in a similar fashion again.


Yeah, I'm wondering what the Sixers do with the cap space they have

Covington is almost certainly going to get renegotiated and extended. If I had to guess there is an outside shot of throwing KCP or Porter a contract. More than likely no major outside additions in FA
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Post#991 » by CoreyGallagher » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:07 pm

I could imagine us overpaying JJ Reddick for a shorter contract. Supposedly he was on our radar, I don't believe this changes that.
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Re: Sixers and Celtics in serious talks about potential trade involving #1 pick 

Post#992 » by E-Balla » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:11 pm

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E-Balla wrote:Are all other 29 GMs in on some sort of scheme to give Danny Ainge a dynasty? How the hell did this just happen?


Dynasty? Don't see it.

It's Jackson/Tatum this year which is meh and then either one stud next year or the year after. I like Jaylen Brown a lot, but he would have to turn into Mini Lebron for this to become a dynasty. It's Philly that has that potential now.

Jackson isn't meh. He's better than Fultz if you ask me and most likely he ends up as Andre Iguodala 2.0. Character issues but of all the guys in the draft he gives the best effort on the floor, he's the 2nd best athlete, his shot isn't bad (38% on 3s, 37% on 2s, both better than Wiggins to compare him to someone), and he can legitimately be a star with small improvements.

Plus y'all can get another PG in this draft anyway if you want one so bad. Smith is made for NBA dominance.

Then y'all have Brooklyn's pick next year and the pick from LA which can legitimately end up #1 and 2 for you to get Bamba/Ayton. Boston has a realistic shot at a young core of:

Smart
Jackson
Jaylen
Ayton
Bamba

Which looks like rings to me.
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Post#993 » by Sixersftw » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:11 pm

CoreyGallagher wrote:I could imagine us overpaying Reddick for a short, lucrative contract. Supposedly he was on our radar, I don't believe this changes that.

Forgot about Reddick. He makes some sense still. I wish we could have finessed Avery Bradley but given Ainge and BCs respective reputations, I should be happy BC didn't give up the farm. Still spoiled from Hinkie.
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Post#994 » by Cornbread » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:19 pm

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Cornbread wrote:Not out of the question the Celtics get top 3 picks in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2021 all while being a good team that wins playoff series' (and potentially more if injuries and luck hit at the right time).


i get everything but why 2021?


They have Memphis's pick top 9 protected in 2019, 7 in 2020, unprotected in 2021.

It's a long shot, but that's a team I could see age and decline quickly.
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Post#995 » by desi tmac91 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:20 pm

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desi tmac91 wrote:
Really curious what you guys do with your cap space now. Grab some vets or save up for 2018 when some big time free agents may start looking their way? Not crazy to consider when Cleveland got LeBron in a similar fashion again.


Yeah, I'm wondering what the Sixers do with the cap space they have

Covington is almost certainly going to get renegotiated and extended. If I had to guess there is an outside shot of throwing KCP or Porter a contract. More than likely no major outside additions in FA


Smart thing to do. They need to showcase Fultz and Simmons as high class talents. Interest as a destination would be booming after a season. Could the Sixers support two max contracts?
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Post#996 » by Cornbread » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:24 pm

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Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:
Yeah, I'm wondering what the Sixers do with the cap space they have

Covington is almost certainly going to get renegotiated and extended. If I had to guess there is an outside shot of throwing KCP or Porter a contract. More than likely no major outside additions in FA


Smart thing to do. They need to showcase Fultz and Simmons as high class talents. Interest as a destination would be booming after a season. Could the Sixers support two max contracts?


One of them after this year will be Embiid.
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Post#997 » by LeMasta » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:34 pm

I want to hate the Sixers but I can't. They have so much potential. Fultz,Simmons, Embiid will be too fun to pass up.
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Post#998 » by Sixersftw » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:40 pm

Cornbread wrote:
desi tmac91 wrote:
Sixersftw wrote:Covington is almost certainly going to get renegotiated and extended. If I had to guess there is an outside shot of throwing KCP or Porter a contract. More than likely no major outside additions in FA


Smart thing to do. They need to showcase Fultz and Simmons as high class talents. Interest as a destination would be booming after a season. Could the Sixers support two max contracts?


One of them after this year will be Embiid.


Yeah, we could fit 2 maxes now or in 2018. 2018 is hard to predict considering we have a lot of decisions to be made on bench prospects and Embiid is getting paid. That said, we have ~36M in committed salary in 2018 so we could do just about anything.
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Re: Sixers and Celtics in serious talks about potential trade involving #1 pick 

Post#999 » by blvck » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:41 pm

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E-Balla wrote:Are all other 29 GMs in on some sort of scheme to give Danny Ainge a dynasty? How the hell did this just happen?


Dynasty? Don't see it.

It's Jackson/Tatum this year which is meh and then either one stud next year or the year after. I like Jaylen Brown a lot, but he would have to turn into Mini Lebron for this to become a dynasty. It's Philly that has that potential now.

Jackson isn't meh. He's better than Fultz if you ask me and most likely he ends up as Andre Iguodala 2.0. Character issues but of all the guys in the draft he gives the best effort on the floor, he's the 2nd best athlete, his shot isn't bad (38% on 3s, 37% on 2s, both better than Wiggins to compare him to someone), and he can legitimately be a star with small improvements.

Plus y'all can get another PG in this draft anyway if you want one so bad. Smith is made for NBA dominance.

Then y'all have Brooklyn's pick next year and the pick from LA which can legitimately end up #1 and 2 for you to get Bamba/Ayton. Boston has a realistic shot at a young core of:

Smart
Jackson
Jaylen
Ayton
Bamba

Which looks like rings to me.


In small lineup league no way i take ayton and bamba 1 and 2 im taking porter and either ayton or bamba 2nd aint seen or heard enough abt bamba yet anyways so i wouldnt count out robert williams.
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Re: Sixers and Celtics in serious talks about potential trade involving #1 pick 

Post#1000 » by TTP » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:01 pm

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Exactly what I'm thinking too. They were set up to really load up on assets over the next couple years, something they need to do considering - as I mentioned earlier - they're building on such shaky ground imo. Instead their cashing in all their chips for one big move.



I mean it could work out but they're gonna be giving up loads of great assets.

They could end up with theee really top tier guys but embiid and Simmons injury concerns going forward are very scary, mainly embiid.

Fulz better be brilliant if they're giving up what's reported.


Hinkie was great though. Throwing Noel away was the first bad step since change of Gm. Hope it doesn't go too bad for them.


Oh sure, it could work out. If Fultz is as good as projected, I don't think Philly fans will be losing much sleep over it.

But conversely, if Embiid keeps having these massive injury problems and can only play a 3rd of the season and maybe Simmons isn't as good as project or those two guys can't fit together..... Now where are your assets to keep trying to get more and more pieces that work together (and can stay healthy)?

For a poker analogy, I just think they're going all in on a pair of jacks pre-flop.


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