2019 NBA Finals Thread, Part 1 | Golden State Warriors vs Toronto Raptors

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Who's the champ?

Warriors in 4
33
7%
Warriors in 5
65
13%
Warriors in 6
106
22%
Warriors in 7
8
2%
Raptors in 4
44
9%
Raptors in 5
23
5%
Raptors in 6
78
16%
Raptors in 7
125
26%
 
Total votes: 482

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Re: 2019 NBA Finals Thread, Part 1 | Golden State Warriors vs Toronto Raptors 

Post#981 » by Mister Ze » Thu May 30, 2019 2:18 am

Curry Klay Kawhi Draymond could probably win 80 games during a regular season if healthy
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Re: 2019 NBA Finals Thread, Part 1 | Golden State Warriors vs Toronto Raptors 

Post#982 » by Detective » Thu May 30, 2019 2:39 am

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Post#983 » by PizzaSteve » Thu May 30, 2019 2:55 am

Lunartic wrote:
sca wrote:
Lunartic wrote:

Inb4 that's labeled a horrific reply

Better stop while you're ahead fam

1. clyde21 replied to a poster and claimed that the Valanciunas injury a “freak accident”

2. I replied to him, basically arguing that injuring people because of playing out of control cannot be shrugged off as just an accident. I even said that I didn’t believe Draymond intentionally injured Valanciunas

3. PizzaSteve got my reply completely wrong and told me to stop watching basketball and suggested me to go to therapy, which was way outta line and bizarre honestly

4. He’s still deluding himself into believing that and writing long-ass replies, which is borderline troll behaviour at best

5. Looks like he’s found a supporter in you

6. This is my last post about this, because the whole thing is **** stupid



Huh? I'm just making fun of that mod labeling a post that is at worst a troll post as: a horrific personal attack


I actually agree with your argument and I'm rooting for the Raptors to beat Warriors and their bandwagonner fans.

Draymond does not deserve the benefit of the doubt and it's likely he intentionally was trying to aggravate the injury.
Leonard joining the Raptors is not at all comparable to what Durant did.

Dont want to perpetuate this, but you need to either stand by what you post or back off. I clearly said that if you think players are intentionally injuring others, then a break from the boards is advised.

You selectively cut and post bits of my replies, out of context, to try to win some sort of stupid slanting contest, while i reply quoting the whole post, changing nothing. You `report my post as a horrific attack', edit out the bad bits you posted, etc.

My only positions were that saying players intentionally injure others is over the top.

These posts are clearly an effort to portray opponent players as some sort of evil villan, snakes and cutthroats by selectively viewing their play in the most negative possible light. You are doing the same process to my posts, calling me a troll, selectively quoting, interpreting relatively mild rhetoric as some sort of horrific thing. your list is again a laughable attempt to slant and create some sort of narrative that paints me negatively. I stand by my posts. No one needs your inaccurate summary. They can read my actual posts if they care, or you can quote them in whole, if you are intellectually honest in your debating tactics. Calling them bad because too long, well that is reaching. Nothing else but they are trolling because longer or too complex for your preferences? Calling me a bandwagon fan further cements your desperation. I saw Nate Thurmond live at Oracle. Raps didnt even exist then.

Please...look inward. Mindfullness training is wonderful. But i see why Raps fans have such a bad reputation and will stay out of the game threads from now on. Not worth it.

All the rap fans can talk among themselves.
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Re: 2019 NBA Finals Thread, Part 1 | Golden State Warriors vs Toronto Raptors 

Post#984 » by messi0826 » Thu May 30, 2019 3:05 am

As a fan, I want to see the official birth of a dynasty team. I will enter the finals for five consecutive years. If I continue to win this season, it will be four championships in five years. One of them has three consecutive championships. Is it difficult to admit that others are excellent?
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Post#985 » by JustWin » Thu May 30, 2019 3:23 am

Master Ze wrote:I think Siakam will be the 2nd best player for Toronto this series


Will all due respect to Draymond and the Warriors team D, but Siakam had to worry about Embiid and Lopez, no one on the Warriors key players can defend like those guys can with that size.
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Post#986 » by B-Ball Freak » Thu May 30, 2019 3:34 am

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Th3RaptorSwag wrote:Doesn't matter who wins.

We made the finals, Toronto, the team everyone labelled as trash in recent years :lol:

If we beat GS, bow down @Celtics, @Knicks, @76ers fans :lol:


76ers for the most part had very knowledgeable fans this post season when interacting with Raptors. They are cool and I wish them nothing but the best.

Knicks fans are in an eternal state of shambles, never kick a man when they are down. I hope their franchise turns it around.

Celtics fans are in such a state they are primarily cheering for us in the finals. Their mods are easily the worst on this board tho.

I wish all fans of all eastern conference teams great fortune. Except trolls like PizzaSteve and Mindstate that have derailed this GB thread.


Sixers fans were real cool and the majority showed no disrespect even when the series got super intense, I like em. Celtics fans, who pretty much are all Boston sports fans have won so much that they are actually cool with us making the Finals, who would have thought lol. It was the Bucks fans (not all) who turned out to be the cocky a**holes and douchebag trolls.
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Re: 2019 NBA Finals Thread, Part 1 | Golden State Warriors vs Toronto Raptors 

Post#987 » by tonyreyes123 » Thu May 30, 2019 4:05 am

Warriors were healthy struggling with the Clippers. The Raptors are a way better version of them and KD is AWOL.

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Post#988 » by Winsome Gerbil » Thu May 30, 2019 4:09 am

Master Ze wrote:Curry Klay Kawhi Draymond could probably win 80 games during a regular season if healthy


Probably. But why not 100?
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Post#989 » by Lunartic » Thu May 30, 2019 4:32 am

PizzaSteve wrote:
Lunartic wrote:
sca wrote:1. clyde21 replied to a poster and claimed that the Valanciunas injury a “freak accident”

2. I replied to him, basically arguing that injuring people because of playing out of control cannot be shrugged off as just an accident. I even said that I didn’t believe Draymond intentionally injured Valanciunas

3. PizzaSteve got my reply completely wrong and told me to stop watching basketball and suggested me to go to therapy, which was way outta line and bizarre honestly

4. He’s still deluding himself into believing that and writing long-ass replies, which is borderline troll behaviour at best

5. Looks like he’s found a supporter in you

6. This is my last post about this, because the whole thing is **** stupid



Huh? I'm just making fun of that mod labeling a post that is at worst a troll post as: a horrific personal attack


I actually agree with your argument and I'm rooting for the Raptors to beat Warriors and their bandwagonner fans.

Draymond does not deserve the benefit of the doubt and it's likely he intentionally was trying to aggravate the injury.
Leonard joining the Raptors is not at all comparable to what Durant did.

Dont want to perpetuate this, but you need to either stand by what you post or back off. I clearly said that if you think players are intentionally injuring others, then a break from the boards is advised.

You selectively cut and post bits of my replies, out of context, to try to win some sort of stupid slanting contest, while i reply quoting the whole post, changing nothing. You `report my post as a horrific attack', edit out the bad bits you posted, etc.

My only positions were that saying players intentionally injure others is over the top.

These posts are clearly an effort to portray opponent players as some sort of evil villan, snakes and cutthroats by selectively viewing their play in the most negative possible light. You are doing the same process to my posts, calling me a troll, selectively quoting, interpreting relatively mild rhetoric as some sort of horrific thing. your list is again a laughable attempt to slant and create some sort of narrative that paints me negatively. I stand by my posts. No one needs your inaccurate summary. They can read my actual posts if they care, or you can quote them in whole, if you are intellectually honest in your debating tactics. Calling them bad because too long, well that is reaching. Nothing else but they are trolling because longer or too complex for your preferences? Calling me a bandwagon fan further cements your desperation. I saw Nate Thurmond live at Oracle. Raps didnt even exist then.

Please...look inward. Mindfullness training is wonderful. But i see why Raps fans have such a bad reputation and will stay out of the game threads from now on. Not worth it.

All the rap fans can talk among themselves.


Are you directing this post at me?

I'm just a friendly neighborhood lunartic pointing out how your post was not "horrific"

As well as using this as a chance to bash the Warriors players
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Post#990 » by Clay Davis » Thu May 30, 2019 4:40 am

Master Ze wrote:I think Siakam will be the 2nd best player for Toronto this series

I expect it to change pretty often tbh. Hopefully we have a game where Danny is our 2nd best (and not by being 2nd least terrible) :) .
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Post#991 » by Basketball_Jones » Thu May 30, 2019 4:49 am

Backcourt defense will be key. Warriors were tested there a bit against the clippers and rockets. Not so much against Portland. Toronto will be Steph/Klays best defense they’ve faced in these playoffs.
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Post#992 » by Cyrusman122000 » Thu May 30, 2019 4:50 am

Bold prediction of the series

Danny green gets his confidence back and gets hot from 3 and plays well. He played very well in both the finals he previously played in
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Post#993 » by durden_tyler » Thu May 30, 2019 6:00 am

This is big news, i think.

Line opened at GSW-1

24 hours before Game 1, that line has moved to TORONTO-1.5

Public is definitely on the Raps now. (Makes it easier to decide to bet on the Warriors... Not pulling the trigger yet though...)
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Post#994 » by Jakay » Thu May 30, 2019 6:42 am

LOL, the front page is so littered with Raptor threads. I get it, GS has been discussed to death for years honestly... but it's hilarious to see. It's like reading the Raps forum in two different places these days.
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Post#995 » by WalterBenjamin » Thu May 30, 2019 7:06 am

GSW will for sure become comfortable with the fact that Toronto doesnt have LeBron to make the right play on the offense every single time.
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Post#996 » by Edrees » Thu May 30, 2019 7:45 am

everdiso wrote:
xdrta+ wrote:
everdiso wrote:A reminder that the only team a KD-Less Warriors team has ever actually beaten in a finals looked like this:


C T.Thompson
F L.James
F J.Smith
G I.Shumpert
G M.Dellevadova

C T.Mozgov
G J.Jones


And this is relevant to this year's matchup...how?


well, because we might care about how they earned that one championship without KD, especially if we're going to give them extra credit for being champions coming into this series without KD.


Except you're ignoring all the teams they beat to get to the finals when they didn't have KD. Those matchups are all relevant when people give *credit* to the warriors without KD.
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Post#997 » by bb22 » Thu May 30, 2019 8:52 am

Edrees wrote:
everdiso wrote:
xdrta+ wrote:
And this is relevant to this year's matchup...how?


well, because we might care about how they earned that one championship without KD, especially if we're going to give them extra credit for being champions coming into this series without KD.


Except you're ignoring all the teams they beat to get to the finals when they didn't have KD. Those matchups are all relevant when people give *credit* to the warriors without KD.


Being in the finals for the 5th year in a row (with essentially the same team) is an incredible accomplishment and also a huge advantage when playing against a team who's in the finals for the first time. Yes Kawhi and Danny are champions, but this is a whole different environment. I think Raps having homecourt is a something that might make the Warriors a little uncomfortable, given that they have always had homecourt advantage in the finals.
Still, Raps have a huge chance if KD is out. Once you put KD in the lineup, Kawhi's presence is essentially neutralized and it becomes an impossible matchup for any team.
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Post#998 » by RaptorsLife » Thu May 30, 2019 11:01 am

I thinks Sixers and bucks had better defense than warriors

But raptors really took advantage of both those teams lack of experience especially down 1-2 and 0-2

No experience factor here

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Post#999 » by nikster » Thu May 30, 2019 12:01 pm

Jakay wrote:LOL, the front page is so littered with Raptor threads. I get it, GS has been discussed to death for years honestly... but it's hilarious to see. It's like reading the Raps forum in two different places these days.

They’re in the Finals, have one of the best players in the league, and maybe the biggest offseason story line this year will be Kawhii’s decision.

It’s not surprising they’re dominating the threads, before you even factor in the fan base
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Post#1000 » by nikster » Thu May 30, 2019 12:07 pm

Edrees wrote:
everdiso wrote:
xdrta+ wrote:
And this is relevant to this year's matchup...how?


well, because we might care about how they earned that one championship without KD, especially if we're going to give them extra credit for being champions coming into this series without KD.


Except you're ignoring all the teams they beat to get to the finals when they didn't have KD. Those matchups are all relevant when people give *credit* to the warriors without KD.

How many elite teams did they beat without KD?

2016 OKC is clearly in that category. Maybe 2015 Rockets. Don’t think 2015 Cavs missing Love and Kyrie were that elite. 2015 Grizzlies were grit and grind but don’t think we’re legit title contenders, plus tony Allen went down.

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