Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread III (Info. Post 1)

[nymets1]

We should have stopped/ prevented this virus when we had the 1st reported case in the USA to immediately get that person in quarantine and immediately shut down traveling, shutting down large events, gatherings, etc. So since the USA got too long to respond, Now the USA has to learn the HARD WAY.

[Zenzibar]

Cuomo is another lawyer who is unqualified for his position. Lawyers are trained in debate and case law. Stop electing lawyers. Get experienced professionals with industry exposure. Guys like this get abused.

Stop it. You're have a preconception but not listening to Cuomo's communication. Almost every president ever elected was a lawyer cause they have a handle on regulations and laws.

You already have someone with industry experience in office and who can't communicate the information during this crisis was well as Cuomo is doing.

[madmaxmedia]

Here is an interview that Devin Nunes did earlier today:

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Now maybe there's a tsunami of new cases about to hit the fan, and I'll withhold judgement, but for many states it doesn't appear to be happening.

Which makes you a lot smarter and wiser than Devin Nunes.

Also, isn’t happening or doesn’t appear to be happening is not nearly the same as won’t happen (or won’t happen if precautions are taken). But as you said we’ll see...

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Army corps of engineers are in NY.

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[rugbyrugger23]

We should have stopped/ prevented this virus when we had the 1st reported case in the USA to immediately get that person in quarantine and immediately shut down traveling, shutting down large events, gatherings, etc. So since the USA got too long to respond, Now the USA has to learn the HARD WAY.

With hindsight, that is very easy to say. On the flip side, then the complaint and hindsight seekers would be saying, "We shut down the country too early and ruined the economy, spread mass panic, and did so before 'professionals/experts' said to do so."

Really no win, no correct answer scenario for an unprecedented time in world history.

[Crizzle]

This will be a hell of a history class 50-100 years from now

[LordCovington33]

Moving back to HK later this month. Need to wear an electronic monitoring device for two weeks during home quarantine. I need to test my temperature regularly and fill out a health questionnaire. After those two weeks, I need to undergo medical surveillance for a further two weeks. They take it seriously, which is good.

[Optimus_Steel]

Here is an interview that Devin Nunes did earlier today:

Read on Twitter

Now maybe there's a tsunami of new cases about to hit the fan, and I'll withhold judgement, but for many states it doesn't appear to be happening.

Which makes you a lot smarter and wiser than Devin Nunes.

Also, isn’t happening or doesn’t appear to be happening is not nearly the same as won’t happen (or won’t happen if precautions are taken). But as you said we’ll see...

Nunes is a highly paid and connected troll. "what's happening, I'll do the opposite for the hell of it and for the attention I'm so thirty for"

[niQ]

Moving back to HK later this month. Need to wear an electronic monitoring device for two weeks during home quarantine. I need to test my temperature regularly and fill out a health questionnaire. After those two weeks, I need to undergo medical surveillance for a further two weeks. They take it seriously, which is good.

Keep us updated how it is there!

[LordCovington33]

Moving back to HK later this month. Need to wear an electronic monitoring device for two weeks during home quarantine. I need to test my temperature regularly and fill out a health questionnaire. After those two weeks, I need to undergo medical surveillance for a further two weeks. They take it seriously, which is good.

Keep us updated how it is there!

Sure will. If I leave the flat or break the bracelet, immigration will know straight away and I face arrest. Police and other government official hover near housing estates, I am led to believe.

[homecourtloss]

We should have stopped/ prevented this virus when we had the 1st reported case in the USA to immediately get that person in quarantine and immediately shut down traveling, shutting down large events, gatherings, etc. So since the USA got too long to respond, Now the USA has to learn the HARD WAY.

With hindsight, that is very easy to say. On the flip side, then the complaint and hindsight seekers would be saying, "We shut down the country too early and ruined the economy, spread mass panic, and did so before 'professionals/experts' said to do so."

Really no win, no correct answer scenario for an unprecedented time in world history.

Exactly. It’s only after everyone sees how people are affected regardless that they can see why certain measures are probably better than others, but NOT before. Elected officials have so many competing interests in their ears—there was NO WAY any of them were going to put in the measures we see now back then because nobody would accept them without seeeing a clear and present grave danger before them. All leaders were in zugzwang at the time.

For many in the U.S., the closures of services once thought impossible a few weeks ago are now a reality, and people are talking with the help of foresight. At the time of the first cases, nobody would have thought a few months later that schools and gyms and bars would be closed down. Next time, people WILL be ready for immediate actions just like countries in the past with relatively little scientific knowledge compared to today better handled plague outbreaks.

[Xpressure]

Here is an interview that Devin Nunes did earlier today:

Read on Twitter

Now maybe there's a tsunami of new cases about to hit the fan, and I'll withhold judgement, but for many states it doesn't appear to be happening.

Unfortunately it will... just give it a week, especially how non-chalant Americans were of preventing social distancing just a couple of days ago despite all the government warnings

There's now a 2nd wave of new Coronavirus cases starting to hit Asia now, just when it was starting to level off for them

[Stillwater]

This will be a hell of a history class 50-100 years from now

Hope so, not sure I buy there is any world as we know it situation that many days from now.
I'm guessing 18250 days from now Earth is gone

[Saint Lazarus]

Moving back to HK later this month. Need to wear an electronic monitoring device for two weeks during home quarantine. I need to test my temperature regularly and fill out a health questionnaire. After those two weeks, I need to undergo medical surveillance for a further two weeks. They take it seriously, which is good.

Keep us updated how it is there!

Sure will. If I leave the flat or break the bracelet, immigration will know straight away and I face arrest. Police and other government official hover near housing estates, I am led to believe.

Which district you live in?

[bondom34]

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[ken6199]

Army corps of engineers are in NY.

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Mar 17 pm De Blasio said he would make a decision in the next 24 hours, so far no decision. Cuomo said there wouldn't be a shelter in place order. I don't think it's happening at least not this week.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/cuomo-slams-de-blasios-shelter-in-place-speculation-that-came-from-nuclear-war/

[Richfield]

**** idiots.

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Obviously, they're morons.

But who is really to blame for their stupidity? Them, for clearly not recognizing how serious this is, or at least, not recognizing that even if they don't get too sick from coronavirus, they could transmit the virus to someone who IS at risk? Should they be held responsible for the level of ignorance and/or selfishness they're demonstrating?

Is it their parents' fault for not instilling better values and teaching them how to properly prioritize things?

Is it the fault of American culture, that says we can do whatever we want whenever we want?

I find it hard to blame 21 year olds for being selfish morons without any sort of perspective on world matters, that's kind of expected. I think the blame is moreso on the people around them responsible for educating them and teaching them the appropriate values, as well as the culture that they've grown up in.

This is such a good post. Yes, this kid is making a (poor/selfish/etc.) choice, but not in a vacuum.

It is in response to the spring breakers for the first time in four years I saw the president behave like a president in his response. He made some comments in response to a reporter's question yesterday in which he addressed them and talked to them about feeling invincible and then their loved ones. It was an instant response and probably the right things to say. I think that's the first time I've seen him do that. First time I've seen him behave the way one would want a president to behave. Unfortunately and fortunately. Just need to give him credit for that one thing, probably for myself, to help ease the pain from the rest. It was shocking. He acted human for a second without delay. I guess it like the broken clock twice a day thing. Once in this case.

[dhsilv2]

Cuomo is another lawyer who is unqualified for his position. Lawyers are trained in debate and case law. Stop electing lawyers. Get experienced professionals with industry exposure. Guys like this get abused.

Stop it. You're have a preconception but not listening to Cuomo's communication. Almost every president ever elected was a lawyer cause they have a handle on regulations and laws.

You already have someone with industry experience in office and who can't communicate the information during this crisis was well as Cuomo is doing.

I'd say you're both wrong to a degree. For starters a guy who's experience is in reality tv and hotels is hardly "industry" by any normal measures. We absolutely do have too many lawyers in office and it very much hurts us when it comes time to listen to scientists and engineers and yes even real business professionals/bankers. We very much need a good blend of backgrounds and experiences in leadership at the government level. Nobody has the education to fully run a country without leaning heavily on experts but different back grounds help with when to listen and not listen or more importantly what advice they give to take.

And lets be blunt, every leader in the world right now is in over their head...this mess is unlike anything any of us have handled.

[OkcSinceSGA]

"Right to try" act may end up being Trump's achievement of his life. Love how open the FDA commissioner seems to trying unconventional drugs.

[Ambrose]

This will be a hell of a history class 50-100 years from now

Hope so, not sure I buy there is any world as we know it situation that many days from now.
I'm guessing 18250 days from now Earth is gone

Why?