Tuesday 10/21 Opening Night NBA Game Thread!

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Who wins the big opening night games?

Rockets
37
19%
@ Thunder
64
34%
Warriors
57
30%
@ Lakers
33
17%
 
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Re: Tuesday 10/21 Opening Night NBA Game Thread! 

Post#981 » by Capn'O » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:26 am

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Capn'O wrote:I don't think LeBron makes this team a lot better. They need players that provide contrast to Doncic. Off ball dominance. Defense. Hustle plays. This team is rough right now.

Luka is gonna die if he is the only playmaker. He needs another driver like Brunson/Kyrie. Reaves is a good playmaker for a SG but he isn't an elite creator like those guys.

*But totally agreed. LeBron isn't making this team into anything special.


That too. They've got a lot of needs. But in that regard LeBron helps a lot.
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Post#982 » by PushDaRock » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:26 am

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I told all your fellow Laker fans to temper your expectations with Ayton. He was an improvement over… literally nothing at the C spot… but he’s not a player that’s gonna take you to another level. Hes a warm body who 6 times out of 10 won’t actually hurt the team by being on the court.


Basically the poster child for empty stats


Yes and no. I've seen first hand Ayton be impactful. The problem with Ayton's game is, unless you play and structure the teams offense entirely around his skills, then he's absolutely an empty stats dude.

Unless he's the focal point of a teams offense, he will disengage from games for LLLOOONNNNNNGGGG stretches. JJ will 1000% be breaking clipboards this season because of Ayton specifically.


You're not winning when you let him get his numbers, so I'd say that qualifies as empty stats.
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Post#983 » by Lalouie » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:26 am

mademan wrote:How many games until Redick accepts that Hayes > Ayton?


9more games
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Post#984 » by Capn'O » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:28 am

Luka's good though. He's playing great.
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Post#985 » by Patches Perry » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:28 am

Not to beat a dead horse but man people underestimate how perfectly that Dallas team was built around Luka. He'll spend the rest of his career trying to get back to that kind of cast. Maybe these guys can turn it around but man this team is not impressive.
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Post#986 » by Lalouie » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:29 am

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I told all your fellow Laker fans to temper your expectations with Ayton. He was an improvement over… literally nothing at the C spot… but he’s not a player that’s gonna take you to another level. Hes a warm body who 6 times out of 10 won’t actually hurt the team by being on the court.


Basically the poster child for empty stats


and ayton hasn't even started getting on the players' nerves yet
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Post#987 » by TheGOATRises007 » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:29 am

Patches Perry wrote:Not to beat a dead horse but man people underestimate how perfectly that Dallas team was built around Luka. He'll spend the rest of his career trying to get back to that kind of cast. Maybe these guys can turn it around but man this team is not impressive.


Nico Harrison did too and he built the roster :lol:
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Post#988 » by ImmortalD24 » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:30 am

Luka can average 40 easy.. BTW Kobe had 45 in his opener vs Rockets in 2007.
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Post#989 » by darkse1d » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:31 am

lakers fans will hate me but Reeves has gotta go. Lakers need to get more athletic and bring in 2-way players to play alongside Luka.
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Post#990 » by hyper316 » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:31 am

Patches Perry wrote:Not to beat a dead horse but man people underestimate how perfectly that Dallas team was built around Luka. He'll spend the rest of his career trying to get back to that kind of cast. Maybe these guys can turn it around but man this team is not impressive.


Imagine skinny Luka in old Dallas team in year they went to finals
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Post#991 » by Mk0 » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:32 am

darkse1d wrote:lakers fans will hate me but Reeves has gotta go. Lakers need to get more athletic and bring in 2-way players to play alongside Luka.

As popular as he is in LA, he isn't untouchable. He just happens to be on a good contract... for now.
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Post#992 » by Handlez » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:32 am

Luka carries team to finals.

Gets traded to basketball hell.

Poor guy.

But why resign? He had to have known the roster was terrible.
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Post#993 » by Capn'O » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:32 am

What is Horford doing?
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Post#994 » by Mamba81p » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:33 am

Horford looks old out there
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Post#995 » by Mk0 » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:33 am

Classic Dubs, let off the gas and let the other team back into it.
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Post#996 » by DusterBuster » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:33 am

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Basically the poster child for empty stats


Yes and no. I've seen first hand Ayton be impactful. The problem with Ayton's game is, unless you play and structure the teams offense entirely around his skills, then he's absolutely an empty stats dude.

Unless he's the focal point of a teams offense, he will disengage from games for LLLOOONNNNNNGGGG stretches. JJ will 1000% be breaking clipboards this season because of Ayton specifically.


You're not winning when you let him get his numbers, so I'd say that qualifies as empty stats.


The Blazers winning streak in the middle of last season when they won 10-11 coincided with Ayton being the teams leading scorer through that stretch. Part of why that stretch stopped and they kinda stumbled til the end of the season was Ayton got injured and was out for 4-8 weeks at the end of that 11 game stretch.

So that's not 100% accurate that you're losing when he's scoring. That's a uneducated and lazy take, far more nuanced than that.

Why you can't win with him as your leading guy is he's simply not strong or skilled enough and isn't driven enough. He's got an amazing mid-range game, best arguably of any big, but he's not a 3pt shooter and not particularly skilled near the rim as a big man should be. He's never worked more on his game since he got to the league.

If you had a big rebounding defensive PF/C next to him and twin towers it and had a lot of shooting 1-3, it coulllld theoretically work, but even in that situation - Ayton's work ethic is cheeks. You can't build a franchise around a guy who's just there for the checks and to play games.
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Post#997 » by Crazy-Canuck » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:33 am

Handlez wrote:Luka carries team to finals.

Gets traded to basketball hell.

Poor guy.

But why resign? He had to have known the roster was terrible.


To team up with Jokic :o
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Post#998 » by SlimShady83 » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:33 am

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darkse1d wrote:lakers fans will hate me but Reeves has gotta go. Lakers need to get more athletic and bring in 2-way players to play alongside Luka.

As popular as he is in LA, he isn't untouchable. He just happens to be on a good contract... for now.


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Post#999 » by The4thHorseman » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:33 am

9-0 Laker run cuts it to 6
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Post#1000 » by Mk0 » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:33 am

Capn'O wrote:What is Horford doing?

Being 72 years old
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