David Stern places revised '10-'11 cap figure at $56.1M

joyner82 · Post #21 » by **joyner82** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:45 pm

raps4life~ wrote:Why would someone trade a top 3 pick for two late firsts and a jeff green???

That essentially three role players for one possible franchise player. no one is going to do that.

Are you a GM? If not then gtfo

Tim_Hardawayy · Post #22 » by **Tim_Hardawayy** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:46 pm

joyner82 wrote:
raps4life~ wrote:Why would someone trade a top 3 pick for two late firsts and a jeff green???

That essentially three role players for one possible franchise player. no one is going to do that.

Are you a GM? If not then gtfo

Are you? Is anyone on this site? So then why even bother discussing?

joyner82 · Post #23 » by **joyner82** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:47 pm

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Are you? Is anyone on this site? So then why even bother discussing?

No reason to.

Green+2 1st rounders will be traded for #3 overall pick

/discussion

Banks2Pierce · Post #24 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:47 pm

westbrook/thabo/durant/amare/krstic with maynor/collison/green/harden/ibaka off the bench would be a perennial contender. Don't know if that number makes it possible, but it should. 40 million to 11 guys...

Tim_Hardawayy · Post #25 » by **Tim_Hardawayy** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:48 pm

joyner82 wrote:
Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Are you? Is anyone on this site? So then why even bother discussing?

No reason to.

Green+2 1st rounders will be traded for #3 overall pick

/discussion

Isn't being a Durant homer enough, do you have to stretch it to everything OKC related?

Banks2Pierce · Post #26 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:50 pm

joyner82 wrote:
Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Are you? Is anyone on this site? So then why even bother discussing?

No reason to.

Green+2 1st rounders will be traded for #3 overall pick

/discussion

LOL. Teams are just dying to give up Demarcus Cousins or Evan Turner for a "solid starter" that would likely have to be a sixth man on a contending team and some late first round draft picks.

Ming Kong! · Post #27 » by **Ming Kong!** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:50 pm

joyner82 wrote:OKC has enough by a few 100k I think.

Imagine if they signed Bosh/A'mare then traded Jeff Green + a 1st for the #3 overall pick and drafted Cousins...

PG-Westbrook
SG-Harden
SF-Durant
PF-Bosh/A'mare
C-Cousins

Ibaka(has potential to be a DPOY)
Sefalosha(might be best perimeter defender in the league)
Maynor
Collison

Would just be sick

Ok lets say that Bosh or Amare sign with the Thunder, they'll be sitting on $56m+ in salary, how the hell do they resign Durant and Westbrook the next season? They all will demand max paychecks, so you're talking going WAY over the cap to sign 10 other players. I also doubt these guys want to be second options to Durant, plus play in OKC. I'm a Jazz fan, so I know something about small/bad markets.

joyner82 · Post #28 » by **joyner82** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:51 pm

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Isn't being a Durant homer enough, do you have to stretch it to everything OKC related?

joyner82 · Post #29 » by **joyner82** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:53 pm

Ming Kong! wrote:
Ok lets say that Bosh or Amare sign with the Thunder, they'll be sitting on $56m+ in salary, how the hell do they resign Durant and Westbrook the next season? They all will demand max paychecks, so you're talking going WAY over the cap to sign 10 other players.

Uhhh.....u serious?

Optms · Post #30 » by **Optms** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:54 pm

joyner82 wrote:
Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Are you? Is anyone on this site? So then why even bother discussing?

No reason to.

Green+2 1st rounders will be traded for #3 overall pick

/discussion

Green's a role player. Nothing more. The top 3 in the draft will have the potential to be "the guy." All teams with the best chance of landing a top 4 pick aren't interested in role players, but rather looking towards the future and adding future all-star/super stars to the club. You aren't going to find another Washington in this year's draft.

Ming Kong! · Post #31 » by **Ming Kong!** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:58 pm

joyner82 wrote:
Ming Kong! wrote:
Ok lets say that Bosh or Amare sign with the Thunder, they'll be sitting on $56m+ in salary, how the hell do they resign Durant and Westbrook the next season? They all will demand max paychecks, so you're talking going WAY over the cap to sign 10 other players.

Uhhh.....u serious?

UUUUUUGHHHHH *browses internet for cliché forum picture*

Yeah I'm serious. Tell me how they'll have 13 players in 2011-12 (or 2012/13 if they don't extend Westbrook early) if they were to sign Amare or Bosh for the max? I figure you expect to keep Westbrook and Durant. Now don't tell me you expect Westbrook to settle, cause by 2012 he will be high coveted, probably widely regarded a top 5 PG.

raps4life~ · Post #32 » by **raps4life~** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:58 pm

joyner82 wrote:
Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Are you? Is anyone on this site? So then why even bother discussing?

No reason to.

Green+2 1st rounders will be traded for #3 overall pick

/discussion

LOL This guy is hilarious.

joyner82 · Post #33 » by **joyner82** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:00 pm

Ming Kong! wrote:UUUUUUGHHHHH *browses internet for cliché forum picture*

Yeah I'm serious. Tell me how they'll have 13 players in 2011-12 if they were to sign Amare or Bosh for the max? I figure you expect to keep Westbrook and Durant. Now don't tell me you expect Westbrook to settle, cause by 2011 he will be high coveted, probably widely regarded a top 5 PG.

You can use Bird Right's family exception as both will qualify. That is of course if the owner is willing to pay the luxury tax.

Banks2Pierce · Post #34 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:05 pm

The draft this year might just be a bunch of teams trying to get rid of first round cap holds.

sisibilio · Post #35 » by **sisibilio** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:07 pm

joyner82 wrote:
CB4MiamiHeat wrote:Why trade Green though? he would be perfect in a role as the first forward off the bench.

Ibaka plays the 4 and he will be better than Green next year. They need a 3 to backup Durant but Green is going to want 8-10 mill per year which is way too much to pay a backup. No reason to keep him around.

Green may want the moon, but i doubt anyone is going to offer him anything remotely close to 10 per year.

Ming Kong! · Post #36 » by **Ming Kong!** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:10 pm

Yeah if OKC is willing to pay the luxury, you have a point, but there really is no need to be a jackass when someone questions something you say. I mean we're easily talking $50M for Amare(or Bosh)/Durant/Westbrook.. then $18 before hitting the luxury cap. If you have Cousins, he'll take a nice chunk of that, leaving you with about $14M for 9 players. I just doubt this is very possible.

joyner82 · Post #37 » by **joyner82** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:15 pm

Ming Kong! wrote:Yeah if OKC is willing to pay the luxury, you have a point, but there really is no need to be a jackass when someone questions something you say. I mean we're easily talking $50M for Amare(or Bosh)/Durant/Westbrook.. then $18 before hitting the luxury cap. If you have Cousins, he'll take a nice chunk of that, leaving you with about $14M for 9 players. I just doubt this is very possible.

I wasn't being a jackass and you have 68 million until you get to the luxury tax so after Amar'e/Bosh they would have around 12 million until they went over. That's roughly enough for Durant's next contract and Westbrook is still under contract for 3 more years. They would probably end up around 80 million & around 12 million over the tax line after resigning Westbrook in 3 years.

sdeezy · Post #38 » by **sdeezy** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:15 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:The draft this year might just be a bunch of teams trying to get rid of first round cap holds.

yep..mid to late first rounders are going to be very easy to acquire this draft

boogydown · Post #39 » by **boogydown** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:17 pm

Great news for Bulls fans. We only need to dump Deng and we'd have enough for 2 max free agents or we just sign one, and have 6 to 7 left over.

sdeezy · Post #40 » by **sdeezy** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:30 pm

boogydown wrote:Great news for Bulls fans. We only need to dump Deng and we'd have enough for 2 max free agents or we just sign one, and have 6 to 7 left over.

Yeah, except i'm finding it extremely hard to find a team that would consider taking on Dengs cap strangling deal..the money itself is not a problem since most of it is deferred but the value still counts against the cap if i'm not mistaken